Dave2D - Windows Was The Problem All Along (Lenovo Legion Go Windows 11 vs. SteamOS)
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I think this screenshot is pretty telling.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 03:43 last edited byWithout context that graph isn't brilliant because it depends on the hardware of the PC. Pretty much every game I run will be better on the steam deck than my PC because my PC is terrible.
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I mean, Macs are certainly a viable alternative for many people...
But if you wanna use your PC to play games?
About 25% of Steam's library runs on Mac.
Whereas if you look at ProtonDB, 81% of games are either gold or platinum on Linux in general, 86% if you throw silver in.
That's gonna be a major hangup for a lot of people who want a PC that isn't Windows.
Oh right, that and Macs are all overpriced as fuck for the average consumer, when we are about to enter into the Second Great Depression.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 03:46 last edited by echodot@feddit.ukEvery time I look at Macs I just can't get over how ridiculous they are in terms of pricing. Combined with the inability to upgrade after the fact. Buying one would just doom me to buying another a few years down the line, much better to just never get stuck in the ecosystem in the first place.
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Without context that graph isn't brilliant because it depends on the hardware of the PC. Pretty much every game I run will be better on the steam deck than my PC because my PC is terrible.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 03:53 last edited by...hence the context in the graph that points out it's on exact same hardware....
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Without context that graph isn't brilliant because it depends on the hardware of the PC. Pretty much every game I run will be better on the steam deck than my PC because my PC is terrible.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 04:22 last edited byThese are both on the Lenovo Legion Go S. The significance here is that there's both official OEM windows and official OEM steamOS for this device.
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YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP
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Do we know if it's entirely coming from SteamOS? Iirc the advantages it had over Windows on the Steam Deck were not even anywhere remotely this pronounced.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 05:29 last edited byWhat else would it be coming from on the exact same hardware?
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Why isn’t this the case with the ROG Ally? Users are reporting negligible to no change on Reddit.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 06:02 last edited byThat's still good isn't it? At worst you're getting on par performance, at best it's better
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I think this screenshot is pretty telling.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 07:04 last edited byThis screenshot is also slightly misleading since the color scheme suggests that 5 out of 5 games run better on SteamOS then on Windows. But if you check the numbers it is only 4 out of 5 games.
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You joke, but half of my Steam library is incompatible with Steam Deck. Like, I fucking hate Windows, but I'm stuck there for gaming, and I don't even play these multiplayer games. I'm talking Catherine, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Under Night In-Birth II… etc. Niche games all of them.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 07:07 last edited byI just checked the games on ProtonDB. Two games are Platinum are one is silver/gold. Essentially very less tinkering.
Steam Deck compatibility is usually very conservative so even though it says incompatible, it will probably work. Nowadays, I just check if the game has some weird DRM or anticheat, otherwise it just works.
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This screenshot is also slightly misleading since the color scheme suggests that 5 out of 5 games run better on SteamOS then on Windows. But if you check the numbers it is only 4 out of 5 games.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 08:55 last edited byBy 1 fps. Could be the within the margin of error.
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What else would it be coming from on the exact same hardware?
wrote on 27 May 2025, 09:57 last edited byDrivers possibly? I don't mean it as a dig at SteamOS, I'm just curious where the discrepancy is from.
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Every time I look at Macs I just can't get over how ridiculous they are in terms of pricing. Combined with the inability to upgrade after the fact. Buying one would just doom me to buying another a few years down the line, much better to just never get stuck in the ecosystem in the first place.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:54 last edited byEven the steam deck is more upgradeable!
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That's still good isn't it? At worst you're getting on par performance, at best it's better
wrote on 27 May 2025, 11:30 last edited by plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.worksNot worth going through the trouble of installing this unless you only have games on Steam. The best thing about the Ally is the compatibility thanks to windows. If it offered better performance, then it would be worth dual booting it just to play steam games.
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Every time I look at Macs I just can't get over how ridiculous they are in terms of pricing. Combined with the inability to upgrade after the fact. Buying one would just doom me to buying another a few years down the line, much better to just never get stuck in the ecosystem in the first place.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 11:33 last edited byFind a better, or equally good computer than the Mac Mini M4 at the same price.
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Not worth going through the trouble of installing this unless you only have games on Steam. The best thing about the Ally is the compatibility thanks to windows. If it offered better performance, then it would be worth dual booting it just to play steam games.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 11:47 last edited byAre you aware that steamOS supports more than just steam games?
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I just checked the games on ProtonDB. Two games are Platinum are one is silver/gold. Essentially very less tinkering.
Steam Deck compatibility is usually very conservative so even though it says incompatible, it will probably work. Nowadays, I just check if the game has some weird DRM or anticheat, otherwise it just works.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 12:26 last edited byShows one platinum, one gold, and one silver on my end? Catherine is notorious for being difficult to run on Linux, even the comments on ProtonDB say so… IDK if I can consider that very little tinkering.
Plus, that doesn't include docked performance… I need stable 60FPS docked for fighting games.
Like, I see your point that it's almost there, but going full tilt into gaming on Linux RN still feels like a risky investment for both my time and money when my $400 Windows laptop runs everything OOTB.
One day though.
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Find a better, or equally good computer than the Mac Mini M4 at the same price.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 13:04 last edited byAlready have, there are loads of mini PCS on the market that were comparable to the Mac mini. Just do a Google search.
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Shows one platinum, one gold, and one silver on my end? Catherine is notorious for being difficult to run on Linux, even the comments on ProtonDB say so… IDK if I can consider that very little tinkering.
Plus, that doesn't include docked performance… I need stable 60FPS docked for fighting games.
Like, I see your point that it's almost there, but going full tilt into gaming on Linux RN still feels like a risky investment for both my time and money when my $400 Windows laptop runs everything OOTB.
One day though.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 13:08 last edited byI made the jump two years ago. I started with a 512GB SATA SSD with Windows and then my main drive on Linux.
There aren't any games I play regularly that don't "just work" on Linux, but I also get that can depend on the person. I hope you can get there one day.
Until then....maybe dual boot?
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Already have, there are loads of mini PCS on the market that were comparable to the Mac mini. Just do a Google search.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 14:30 last edited byBetter or equally good, not comparable. I know there’s a bunch of them, but none offer better or equally performance for the price, only “comparable”.
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Are you aware that steamOS supports more than just steam games?
wrote on 27 May 2025, 14:31 last edited by plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.worksYes but that defeats the point since you still have to go into desktop mode to install the other games. And more importantly It doesn’t support Gamepass.
For the Ally there’s just not enough benefits to go through the effort, I’ll reiterate.