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  • endymion_mallorn@kbin.melroy.orgE [email protected]

    If I'm honest, Enroth is inferior to Xeen.

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    I wasn't a fan of M&M before 6. Free movement was a huge step forward for this game...

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    • none_dc@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

      I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

      The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

      I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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      Fallout 3. The criticism is absolutely fair*, but it was the first RPG I ever played and I'm still very fond of it.

      * I never got the 'metros are hard to navigate' criticism, I never had that issues. Most of them are pretty linear.

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        Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

        People only ever talk about Final Fantasy Tactics and dismiss any of the other games. However, going by the original release, Tactics Advance is by far my favorite. It's my favorite GBA game and at least in my Top 25 JRPGs, despite having played almost nothing else for the past 20 years. I like many of the things the game gets criticized for.

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        I loved FFTA and have replayed it multiple times. I've played FFTA2 some as well, which was definitely not as good.

        I thought A was much better than the original. I didn't even know it was "not good"

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          I loved FFTA and have replayed it multiple times. I've played FFTA2 some as well, which was definitely not as good.

          I thought A was much better than the original. I didn't even know it was "not good"

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          Usually, whenever people talk about A, you get a few of the following arguments:

          • The story is bad/too childish
          • Laws/Judges are overall a terrible mechanic
          • Learning skills from equipment is bad
          • SRPGs need permadeath
          • Send missions are bad and just there to promote the game with having 300 missions

          Of course, I disagree with all of these. Actually, these are some of my favorite things about this game.

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          • none_dc@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

            I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

            The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

            I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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            Ultima IX: Ascension (1999)

            I genuinely enjoyed the game. Fans of the series claim that it destroyed the franchise. Perhaps they're right, but the franchise was pretty fucked up to begin with.

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            • none_dc@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

              I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

              The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

              I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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              Soldier of Fortune: Payback

              I already knew some of the writing was bad, and the cutscenes/animations were fever dream-esque. Despite that I really enjoyed the feel of the combat, and how destructible enemies’ bodies are in the game.

              I’ll be honest. I was curious and looked up reviews of the game, and saw mostly negative-looking videos. But I chose not to watch them because I didn’t want to ruin my enjoyment of the game. I know the game is bad. But I still like it. I will say though that it’s mostly because of nostalgia.

              There are some objectively bad things about SOF Payback though: regular human bosses that are bullet sponges for whatever reason and the pc port of the game being unplayable.

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                Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

                People only ever talk about Final Fantasy Tactics and dismiss any of the other games. However, going by the original release, Tactics Advance is by far my favorite. It's my favorite GBA game and at least in my Top 25 JRPGs, despite having played almost nothing else for the past 20 years. I like many of the things the game gets criticized for.

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                Bruh, FFTA is a great game and I will hear no slander of it.

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                • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                  How old were you when you played Sonic Unleashed? I thoroughly played and enjoyed Sonic Adventure 2 for the Gamecube when I was in middle school, but revisiting it as an adult, it was so hard to envision how I ever enjoyed the way that game controls. However, even though my muscle memory was totally gone, since all the levels I knew from SA2 were remixed, Sonic Generations was good even as an adult.

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                  I was 10 years old when I played Unleashed. I wouldn't even have internet back then (I'm from Latin America)

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                  • none_dc@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                    I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

                    The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

                    I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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                    Destiny 2.

                    Started playing the first game day one but stopped for several years. Picked up 2 when I found out it was ftp right after beyond light came out and bought all the dlcs available until after lightfall. I was at work and a customer asked what games I play. Said D2 and someone else said "why would you do that to yourself?" I thought hard about that for awhile and realized all I do is grind and don't really have that much fun with it. It was more like a second job. And lightfall was a garbage dlc. That was also a major contributer to me quitting.

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                    • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]

                      Fallout 3. The criticism is absolutely fair*, but it was the first RPG I ever played and I'm still very fond of it.

                      * I never got the 'metros are hard to navigate' criticism, I never had that issues. Most of them are pretty linear.

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                      A lot of the metros look copy and pasted; whole hallways, rooms, so it gets a little confusing.

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                        Destiny 2.

                        Started playing the first game day one but stopped for several years. Picked up 2 when I found out it was ftp right after beyond light came out and bought all the dlcs available until after lightfall. I was at work and a customer asked what games I play. Said D2 and someone else said "why would you do that to yourself?" I thought hard about that for awhile and realized all I do is grind and don't really have that much fun with it. It was more like a second job. And lightfall was a garbage dlc. That was also a major contributer to me quitting.

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                        My biggest issue with Destiny 2 is that I paid $60 for it and then it soon went free to play and I had absolutely nothing to show for that $60 I paid.

                        Edit: oh yeah and that original $60 campaign was removed from the game by the time I went back to check out what was new. There was straight up less content available for me after not playing for a year. I felt so ripped off that I wrote the game off.

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                        • none_dc@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                          I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

                          The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

                          I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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                          King's Quest VIII: Mask of Eternity. Even as a kid, I felt like it was a very strange gore-and-action focus shift for the King's Quest series. Only as an adult did I hear the story of executive meddling that lead to the complete tone and gameplay shift.

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                            Its the context and expectations. The last "Yoshi" game was a mainline Super Mario World 2, and people expected similar scope and challenge but in 64 bits. Super Mario 64 had further primed people for crazy genetlrational leaps. Yoshi's Story was a fine game, but it wasnt SMW3 by a longshot.

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                            Exactly this. Yoshi's Story was a follow up to Yoshi's Island, often considered one of the greatest 2d platformers of all time. I spent weeks if not months completing Yoshi's Island. Then when Yoshi's Story came out, I rented it and completed it over the weekend.

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                            • none_dc@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                              I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

                              The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

                              I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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                              Every Ubisoft game since Assassin's Creed 2

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                                Every Ubisoft game since Assassin's Creed 2

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                                To be fair to Ubisoft, the newest Prince of Persia game was a great metroidvania game.

                                To be fair-er to Ubisoft, they can go fuck themselves for closing down the studio that made said game only a few months later.

                                They can make good games. They just clearly would rather rehash the same tired formula that they've been running with for the past decade while unreasonably expecting to make more money each time.

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                                • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]

                                  Fallout 3. The criticism is absolutely fair*, but it was the first RPG I ever played and I'm still very fond of it.

                                  * I never got the 'metros are hard to navigate' criticism, I never had that issues. Most of them are pretty linear.

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                                  To be fair, Fallout 3 is a bit more of a mixed bag of good and bad features.

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                                  • none_dc@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                    I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

                                    The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

                                    I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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                                    Literally every MMORPG targeted at an oldschool/hardcore/PvP oriented audience. Without fail the related comments and reviews will be littered by people angrily ranting on how these games are outdated and should change to be more casual

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                                      My biggest issue with Destiny 2 is that I paid $60 for it and then it soon went free to play and I had absolutely nothing to show for that $60 I paid.

                                      Edit: oh yeah and that original $60 campaign was removed from the game by the time I went back to check out what was new. There was straight up less content available for me after not playing for a year. I felt so ripped off that I wrote the game off.

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                                      I was excited to start again right as beyond light dropped, but it was confusing as hell as a new player because they sunset the starting campaign. Weird to have to research how to play a game.

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                                      • none_dc@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                        I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

                                        The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

                                        I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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                                        Mine was final fantasy 12. I played that game so hard, really enjoyed it and if was released in the time of trophies I would have platinumed it. Even did the grinding for Gilgamesh to spawn for a sword or something. But I was hated at the time.

                                        Now everyone is saying it was one of the best and I was proved right all along.

                                        Sure the story was star wars and the main character wasn't, but the combat system was really fun, way better than 13.

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                                          A lot of the metros look copy and pasted; whole hallways, rooms, so it gets a little confusing.

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                                          Oh for sure, Fallout 3 Geoguesser would be hard. Idk, I just never had a problem navigating them, even if they were a bit samey.

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