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Research reveals “non-existent” enforcement of industry-led standards on loot boxes

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  • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    30 May 2025, 11:56

    When the fuck has "industry self-regulation" ever worked?

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    banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
    wrote on 30 May 2025, 14:26 last edited by
    #9

    Credit card processing standards are heavily industry regulated. At least in the US. There are some state and federal laws but it's mostly Visa, Discover, and other cc companies that regulate and develop these standards. They have the teeth to stop all your credit card processing if you don't meet their requirements. Frankly, they actually do have decent security protocols and practices.

    They take it seriously because they really don't want the government to mess with processing fees and whatever else makes them money. In some ways I'd rather it be regulated, but the current gov shouldn't be trusted with anything.

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    • S shawdow194@fedia.io
      30 May 2025, 10:59

      Lets even regulate them for adults, its not just a kid problem

      It shouldnt be treated "like" gambling - it IS gambling

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      paradachshund@lemmy.today
      wrote on 30 May 2025, 18:01 last edited by
      #10

      That's just unfair... With real gambling you might actually get your money back!

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      • B banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
        30 May 2025, 14:26

        Credit card processing standards are heavily industry regulated. At least in the US. There are some state and federal laws but it's mostly Visa, Discover, and other cc companies that regulate and develop these standards. They have the teeth to stop all your credit card processing if you don't meet their requirements. Frankly, they actually do have decent security protocols and practices.

        They take it seriously because they really don't want the government to mess with processing fees and whatever else makes them money. In some ways I'd rather it be regulated, but the current gov shouldn't be trusted with anything.

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        goretantath@lemm.ee
        wrote on 30 May 2025, 18:31 last edited by
        #11

        They are HEAVY censorers of a multitude of people. They arent regulated themselves.

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        • S spankmonkey@lemmy.world
          30 May 2025, 13:55

          Fuck that, kids are kids. The companies are responsible for being able to easily roll back invalid loot box purchases if we allow them to exist in the first place.

          My preference would be to ban them entirely.

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          goretantath@lemm.ee
          wrote on 30 May 2025, 18:32 last edited by
          #12

          "This kid shot up a school because their parents left their gun on the kitchen table fully loaded, but hey kids are kids!" That's you right now.

          S 1 Reply Last reply 30 May 2025, 18:35
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          • G goretantath@lemm.ee
            30 May 2025, 18:32

            "This kid shot up a school because their parents left their gun on the kitchen table fully loaded, but hey kids are kids!" That's you right now.

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            spankmonkey@lemmy.world
            wrote on 30 May 2025, 18:35 last edited by
            #13

            "Parents who leave loaded guns on the table bear no responsibility if their kids shoot themselves with it." That's you right now.

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            • B banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
              30 May 2025, 14:26

              Credit card processing standards are heavily industry regulated. At least in the US. There are some state and federal laws but it's mostly Visa, Discover, and other cc companies that regulate and develop these standards. They have the teeth to stop all your credit card processing if you don't meet their requirements. Frankly, they actually do have decent security protocols and practices.

              They take it seriously because they really don't want the government to mess with processing fees and whatever else makes them money. In some ways I'd rather it be regulated, but the current gov shouldn't be trusted with anything.

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              brewery@feddit.uk
              wrote on 30 May 2025, 18:48 last edited by
              #14

              Really? And did they self regulate their fees? Oh wait no, it took EU enforcement to cut down their fees and stop businesses passing them onto customers. The EU also enforced more security regulation, and more use of those by the banks themselves using these credit card processors who washed their hands of levels of security

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              • B brewery@feddit.uk
                30 May 2025, 18:48

                Really? And did they self regulate their fees? Oh wait no, it took EU enforcement to cut down their fees and stop businesses passing them onto customers. The EU also enforced more security regulation, and more use of those by the banks themselves using these credit card processors who washed their hands of levels of security

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                banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
                wrote on 31 May 2025, 15:52 last edited by
                #15

                What's the deal with these shitty comments? Every time I say anything on this platform it's the same reddit bullshit. Always trying to checkmate someone and always aggressive questions that are really statements calling me an asshole.

                I didn't make capitalism or credit cards or regulations. I was just trying to add content. I'm all for the EU developing actual protections for consumers, but I guess I'm a dipshit for leaving a comment and trying to interact. Sorry. I won't interrupt the circle jerk again.

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                • P paradachshund@lemmy.today
                  30 May 2025, 18:01

                  That's just unfair... With real gambling you might actually get your money back!

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                  msage@programming.dev
                  wrote on 31 May 2025, 16:20 last edited by
                  #16

                  If you're in an online casino... you won't.

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                  .

                  .

                  I've seen some shit.

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                  • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                    30 May 2025, 11:56

                    When the fuck has "industry self-regulation" ever worked?

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                    ashtear@lemm.ee
                    wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 04:56 last edited by
                    #17

                    Game content rating boards work (ESRB, PEGI, CERO, etc.). The difference here is there's no pressure from the digital storefronts. They don't have the same taboos on gambling that brick-and-mortar stores had on sex and violence in video games back when they started up.

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                    • M msage@programming.dev
                      31 May 2025, 16:20

                      If you're in an online casino... you won't.

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                      .

                      .

                      I've seen some shit.

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                      iloveunions@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 05:50 last edited by
                      #18

                      Online casinos sound like a good way to get scammed. Even more so than just a normal casino

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                      • B banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
                        31 May 2025, 15:52

                        What's the deal with these shitty comments? Every time I say anything on this platform it's the same reddit bullshit. Always trying to checkmate someone and always aggressive questions that are really statements calling me an asshole.

                        I didn't make capitalism or credit cards or regulations. I was just trying to add content. I'm all for the EU developing actual protections for consumers, but I guess I'm a dipshit for leaving a comment and trying to interact. Sorry. I won't interrupt the circle jerk again.

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                        loonsun@sh.itjust.works
                        wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 06:17 last edited by
                        #19

                        Nah, you should keep posting and people who come at people like they stabbed their mother's should take a break to touch grass

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                        • I iloveunions@lemmy.world
                          1 Jun 2025, 05:50

                          Online casinos sound like a good way to get scammed. Even more so than just a normal casino

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                          msage@programming.dev
                          wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 06:45 last edited by
                          #20

                          You won't get scammed in the traditional way, it's just that gamblers mentality is so self-destructive.

                          You know the joke that 90% of gamblers stop before hitting it big?

                          The '10%' (it's obviously way smaller number) even when they win big, they won't stop.

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                          • A ashtear@lemm.ee
                            1 Jun 2025, 04:56

                            Game content rating boards work (ESRB, PEGI, CERO, etc.). The difference here is there's no pressure from the digital storefronts. They don't have the same taboos on gambling that brick-and-mortar stores had on sex and violence in video games back when they started up.

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                            prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                            wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 16:28 last edited by prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 Jan 2025, 12:29
                            #21

                            Do these rating boards actually ever prevent games from being released though? Aside from maybe Germany or whatever...

                            It's more about categorization than regulation.

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                            • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                              1 Jun 2025, 16:28

                              Do these rating boards actually ever prevent games from being released though? Aside from maybe Germany or whatever...

                              It's more about categorization than regulation.

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                              ashtear@lemm.ee
                              wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 19:53 last edited by
                              #22

                              Has happened multiple times in Australia.

                              Very similar to that for films, the rating board process mostly regulates games in development. In the US, for example, the AO rating will prevent your game from being sold at mass market storefronts. When your game has borderline content, it's a back-and-forth process that's resolved before release.

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