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Palworld confirms ‘disappointing’ game changes forced by Pokémon lawsuit

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    Copyright and patent laws need to die.

    This is such an extremely naive thing to say.

    Do you enjoy having every good, innovative US or EU product die immediately due to China/India making a 1:1 copy and flooding the markets with it?

    Enjoy innovative products that startups create? How about not having any of that because as soon as a startup makes something, a big corp comes in with their money, steals the idea, and floods the market?

    EDIT: no arguments, just downvotes? Damn, I thought this place was supposed to be better than Reddit...

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    Chinese companies famously ignore patent law and do make copies and try to flood the western market with them.

    Most startups don't have the time and/or money to patent their ideas and big corps do squash them/steal their ideas routinely once they become noticeable.

    If anything, startups can't develop their ideas because some company will hold a generic patent like "clicking a button does something" (or "glide with a pet") from 30 years ago.

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      Chinese companies famously ignore patent law and do make copies and try to flood the western market with them.

      Most startups don't have the time and/or money to patent their ideas and big corps do squash them/steal their ideas routinely once they become noticeable.

      If anything, startups can't develop their ideas because some company will hold a generic patent like "clicking a button does something" (or "glide with a pet") from 30 years ago.

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      Chinese companies famously ignore patent law and do make copies and try to flood the western market with them.

      But western companies at least have a tool to fight back or limit the flood.

      Most startups don’t have the time and/or money to patent their ideas and big corps do squash them/steal their ideas routinely once they become noticeable.

      Ah, the usual "if the solution is not absolutely 100% perfect, let's throw out the solution". Come on...

      If anything, startups can’t develop their ideas because some company will hold a generic patent like “clicking a button does something” (or “glide with a pet”) from 30 years ago.

      Yeah, this happens all of once every billion times. Clearly the system is stupid and needs to be killed so that nobody who isn't extremely rich can actually develop anything new without being immediately put out to pasture.

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      • A [email protected]

        Copyright and patent laws need to die.

        This is such an extremely naive thing to say.

        Do you enjoy having every good, innovative US or EU product die immediately due to China/India making a 1:1 copy and flooding the markets with it?

        Enjoy innovative products that startups create? How about not having any of that because as soon as a startup makes something, a big corp comes in with their money, steals the idea, and floods the market?

        EDIT: no arguments, just downvotes? Damn, I thought this place was supposed to be better than Reddit...

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        Do we enjoy the premise of capitalism where businesses compete to make the best and cheapest product for the consumer?

        Yes. Yes we did up until a few months ago.

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          Chinese companies famously ignore patent law and do make copies and try to flood the western market with them.

          But western companies at least have a tool to fight back or limit the flood.

          Most startups don’t have the time and/or money to patent their ideas and big corps do squash them/steal their ideas routinely once they become noticeable.

          Ah, the usual "if the solution is not absolutely 100% perfect, let's throw out the solution". Come on...

          If anything, startups can’t develop their ideas because some company will hold a generic patent like “clicking a button does something” (or “glide with a pet”) from 30 years ago.

          Yeah, this happens all of once every billion times. Clearly the system is stupid and needs to be killed so that nobody who isn't extremely rich can actually develop anything new without being immediately put out to pasture.

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          I just wanna know which amazing video game innovations We are protecting here in America. Are we talking about the failing franchises that have been milking their customers for 15 years? Have we done anything really innovative recently? Remakes delayed games and flops.

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            Do we enjoy the premise of capitalism where businesses compete to make the best and cheapest product for the consumer?

            Yes. Yes we did up until a few months ago.

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            WTF are you talking about??

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              I just wanna know which amazing video game innovations We are protecting here in America. Are we talking about the failing franchises that have been milking their customers for 15 years? Have we done anything really innovative recently? Remakes delayed games and flops.

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              I just wanna know which amazing video game innovations We are protecting here in America

              First, I'm not talking specifically about America. Second, I'm not talking about "amazing innovations". Copyright is also for trademarks, very characteristic gameplay mechanics, etc. For example, Playrix made "Fishdom" which was copy-paste Worms. Team17 won the case and protected their IP.

              Are we talking about the failing franchises that have been milking their customers for 15 years?

              Umm... No? What does that have to do with copyright or IP protection...?

              Have we done anything really innovative recently?

              Have you tried looking at titles from other publishers than Ubisoft, EA or Activition?

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                I just wanna know which amazing video game innovations We are protecting here in America

                First, I'm not talking specifically about America. Second, I'm not talking about "amazing innovations". Copyright is also for trademarks, very characteristic gameplay mechanics, etc. For example, Playrix made "Fishdom" which was copy-paste Worms. Team17 won the case and protected their IP.

                Are we talking about the failing franchises that have been milking their customers for 15 years?

                Umm... No? What does that have to do with copyright or IP protection...?

                Have we done anything really innovative recently?

                Have you tried looking at titles from other publishers than Ubisoft, EA or Activition?

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                Eh it's all just stolen and borrowed code. Whens the next Dawn of war or command and conquer coming out? Oh never. locked behind IP laws and timid corpos.

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                  WTF are you talking about??

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                  I'm talking about 70$ games man. Im talking about IP being locked away for decades. Genres of games dying off to push profitability of bigger projects. Strangling out smaller studios any way possible. I'm talking about Gamers. They came for GAMERS.

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                    Eh it's all just stolen and borrowed code. Whens the next Dawn of war or command and conquer coming out? Oh never. locked behind IP laws and timid corpos.

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                    Eh it’s all just stolen and borrowed code

                    Got proof? Go and win the easiest lawsuit of your life.

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                      I'm talking about 70$ games man. Im talking about IP being locked away for decades. Genres of games dying off to push profitability of bigger projects. Strangling out smaller studios any way possible. I'm talking about Gamers. They came for GAMERS.

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                      You're talking nonsense, is what you're talking about.

                      What does a genre drying up have to do with IP or copyright? Like, are you even reading your own words?

                      Strangling out smaller studios any way possible

                      Supergiant Games, CDPR, Larian, Sandfall Interactive and every single indie creator out there clearly haven't been informed of how horrible their situation is. Maybe you should contact them and let them know that the 10/10 games they've been making are impossible to make due to copyright and IP protection laws?

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