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  • R [email protected]

    I’ve heard jellyfin has a lot of security issues

    The biggest known stuff I saw on their GitHub is that a number of the exposed service URLs under the hood don't require auth. So, it's open-source with known requirements, you can tell easily from the outside that it's running, and you can cause it to activate a LOT of packages without logging in. That's a zero-day in any package that can be passed a payload away from disaster.

    AS far as TVOS, I'm kinda surprised swiftfin doesn't service you.

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    Yeah… that’s a non-starter for me. Not gonna risk my entire home lab when Plex doesn’t have any of that risk.

    Also, running in Docker is fantastic but I’ve found Docker to be unstable at times depending on the version.

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    • C [email protected]

      Backups? I have an automatic job running every night.

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      Nice. You you restore often?

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      • surp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        The people asking why confuse me...y'all acting like jellyfin is easy to use on an off-site tv when it's literally not for non tech savvy people. I don't understand why jellyfin just doesn't nut up and make an samsung tv client or something?

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        My 67 year old Mother has been using Jellyfin for years via Chromecast. Change the TV input to Chromecast and pull up the Jellyfin app. And that's it. She never leaves Jellyfin and the Chromecast is never shut off, even if the TV is.

        It's amazing to me that you fanboys pretend like Plex is easy to use but Jellyfin is somehow not. It's generally the exact same interface.

        I don’t understand why jellyfin just doesn’t nut up and make an samsung tv client or something?

        Because application development is expensive, and they're open source--not funded by corporate interest like Plex. What exactly about that is difficult to understand?

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        • M [email protected]

          after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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          Wouldn’t containers make more sense for some of these rather than full blown VMs?

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          • M [email protected]

            Updating immich brings excitement into my life 🙂

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            I've had mine on latest for about a year and I haven't noticed any issues... I have a cron job that pulls it every night too

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            • father_redbeard@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

              I want to leave too, but I really like PlexAmp for my music streaming. And no, Finamp doesn't work nearly as well or look as nice.

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              Finamp is good for android and has a flatpak

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                Yeah… that’s a non-starter for me. Not gonna risk my entire home lab when Plex doesn’t have any of that risk.

                Also, running in Docker is fantastic but I’ve found Docker to be unstable at times depending on the version.

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                Oh, Plex has the risk. A vulnerability in Plex is how LastPass lost all their source code. A vulnerability in Tautulli which he had ported outside surfaced his auth token, then he was able to use the auth token to get into Plex and they were able to hit an rce vulnerability and pull the entire git repo the guy had locally.

                The key difference is Plex at least has a security team and their name on the line with their investors.

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                • fingolfinz@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                  Welcome to the jelly. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

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                  Gooble gobble

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                  • surp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                    I just wanna get rid of Plex so bad but jellyfin isn't going to work for my grandma....

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                    You can run them concurrently and let grandma continue to use plex.

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                    • vitabytesdev@feddit.nlV [email protected]

                      What is virsh?

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                      It is the command line interface for libvirt/qemu/kvm on Linux. I usually just use virt-manager remotely via SSH to create and manage my VMs, but virsh can be handy as well.

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                      • O [email protected]

                        Nice. You you restore often?

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                        Whenever I screw something up or something goes sideways. Or when I'm migrating from one host to another.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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                          Right? Jellyfin is awesome

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                          • F [email protected]

                            Mostly not yet. They did restrict the bandwidth on relay, but anyone with half a brain can open a port and that still allows apps to direct connect without relay. Honestly I wish could just force it to never relay since randomly my iPad will use relay even when I’m on the same network but that’s more because the new iOS app since the rewrite is dogshit.

                            Lifetime pass since 2012 here.

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                            I'm pretty certain that you can turn Relay off in your account settings.

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                            • W [email protected]

                              I've heard people had luck with Tailscale playing nicely with non Plex options. I can't say I've tried it. Though I do use Tailscale. Essentially if you setup Tailscale for Grandma it'll be like she's sitting on your local network. Even better, set it up on her router and you can literally debug all her Internet problems if you can ping it.

                              Beyond that a raspberry pi with a battery backup on a 4G subscription connected to the router. That would be the ultimate "grandma" setup. Connect her router/modem power to remote power cycle. But I digress.

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                              The irony of not wanting to use Plex and saying to use Tailscale to let you use jellyfin is just too good.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                Oh, Plex has the risk. A vulnerability in Plex is how LastPass lost all their source code. A vulnerability in Tautulli which he had ported outside surfaced his auth token, then he was able to use the auth token to get into Plex and they were able to hit an rce vulnerability and pull the entire git repo the guy had locally.

                                The key difference is Plex at least has a security team and their name on the line with their investors.

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                                That’s completely different. Every internet connected service has risks, but having known vulnerabilities that you just refuse to fix is different to someone figuring out a complex exploit.

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  If your grandma can handle torrenting over VPN, then she can probably handle Jellyfin.

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                                  Grandma probably doesn’t do the actually torrenting herself, chances are OP has a overseerr or jellyseerr type of setup, grandma makes the request and things just flow.

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                                    My 67 year old Mother has been using Jellyfin for years via Chromecast. Change the TV input to Chromecast and pull up the Jellyfin app. And that's it. She never leaves Jellyfin and the Chromecast is never shut off, even if the TV is.

                                    It's amazing to me that you fanboys pretend like Plex is easy to use but Jellyfin is somehow not. It's generally the exact same interface.

                                    I don’t understand why jellyfin just doesn’t nut up and make an samsung tv client or something?

                                    Because application development is expensive, and they're open source--not funded by corporate interest like Plex. What exactly about that is difficult to understand?

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                                    Lol bad day huh

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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                                      Could you point me to a good tutorial for hosting Minecraft server for my kids?

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                                        Could you point me to a good tutorial for hosting Minecraft server for my kids?

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                                        if you want easy java minecraft i might try something like https://github.com/itzg/docker-minecraft-server though i've not tested that one beyond 'it did install'.

                                        for bedrock this walkthough does a good job of covering the steps. https://harrk.dev/dedicated-bedrock-minecraft-server-ubuntu-setup/

                                        microsoft has a habit of changing the download url regularly so automating it gets annoying. my kid has moved onto java so i've just left the bedrock server shutdown.

                                        if you really want to run a java server outside docker and you're comfortable with bash scripts, i can post mine here. but one of the docker builds is going to be the simplest way to get started with it.

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