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  • father_redbeard@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

    I want to leave too, but I really like PlexAmp for my music streaming. And no, Finamp doesn't work nearly as well or look as nice.

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    PlexAmp is so good. Nothing else comes close.

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    • C [email protected]

      I can backup an entire VM snapshot very quickly and then restore it in a matter of minutes. Everything from the system files, database, Jellyfin version and configs, etc. All easily backed up and restored in an easy to manage bundle.

      A container is not as easy to manage in the same way.

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      How not?

      If a lxc container is in a btrfs subvolume or in a zfs dataset (those are created easily like a directory, it's not a partition), you can do a full 1:1 copy in less than one second via a snapshot, keeping all the system files, database, version and configs

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        laughs in immich

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        Updating immich brings excitement into my life 🙂

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        • C [email protected]

          It's not the same. You then need to manage volumes separately from images, or if you're mounting a host folder for the Jellyfin files then you have to manage those separately via the host.

          Container images are supposed to be stateless. So then if you're only banking up the volumes, then you need to somehow track which Jellyfin version it's tied to, in case you run into any issues.

          A VM is literally all of that but in a much more complete package.

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          i’d consider that all a good thing, but i can also see how it’s more work

          they’re supposed to be stateless because it’s easier to manage, upgrade, etc… if you don’t want that, you can just use load/save/commit (or import/export: can’t remember off the top of my head which is which) and ignore volumes: it amounts to the same thing… there’s also buildpack rebase so you can swap out the base container and keep your top level changes for quick version upgrades that are super simple to roll back

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            I am still using Kodi. It is feeling a bit long in the tooth in current year, but I can’t complain. I tried Plex because chromecasting is a feature I would love. Sadly it didn’t support the ISOs of my 1:1 rips. Maybe it does now (I stopped waiting for them years ago). As for Jellyfin, they seem to have an anti-ISO stance. One of the devs seemingly (or someone claiming to be a contributor) said I should convert all my media to a more modern format and make my own menus because it would be fun. Oh well, Kodi it is.

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            i've never heard of anyone that keeps dvd menus around. like, i get it for archival purposes but i would never want to actually navigate a menu when i want to watch something. in my mind it's like sitting through the commercials on a rented vhs. i would probably store a converted copy as well, in a format that would let me specify from the application what track and subtitle i want so i can set a default.

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            • C [email protected]

              I can backup an entire VM snapshot very quickly and then restore it in a matter of minutes. Everything from the system files, database, Jellyfin version and configs, etc. All easily backed up and restored in an easy to manage bundle.

              A container is not as easy to manage in the same way.

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              How often do you do this?

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              • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                i've never heard of anyone that keeps dvd menus around. like, i get it for archival purposes but i would never want to actually navigate a menu when i want to watch something. in my mind it's like sitting through the commercials on a rented vhs. i would probably store a converted copy as well, in a format that would let me specify from the application what track and subtitle i want so i can set a default.

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                Blu-ray menus do kind of suck, but they are still mostly good enough to make all the supplemental material accessible (assuming the studio bothered to provide any anymore). But DVD menus (at least during that earlier golden age) add a layer to the experience I never knew I had been missing.

                The Rocky Horror Picture Show has some dancing fishnet legs and sexyhorror lips dancing around. You get to see so many extras and choose two versions of the movie and AND a secret Easter egg third version. A smorgasbord. Same for Terminator 2: two good versions of the movie and that lame Star Trek-ish ending one was hidden and I love having the option to not watch it. Plus many more. Fight Club is the only one I can think of to make use of that camera angle swapping button. The DVD versions of Dragon’s Lair and Space Ace wouldn’t work any other way.

                Perfect way to kill time when others go for a last minute toilet visit or decide to make popcorn. I am not going to the trouble of transcoding my entire library to get less.

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                • J [email protected]

                  Blu-ray menus do kind of suck, but they are still mostly good enough to make all the supplemental material accessible (assuming the studio bothered to provide any anymore). But DVD menus (at least during that earlier golden age) add a layer to the experience I never knew I had been missing.

                  The Rocky Horror Picture Show has some dancing fishnet legs and sexyhorror lips dancing around. You get to see so many extras and choose two versions of the movie and AND a secret Easter egg third version. A smorgasbord. Same for Terminator 2: two good versions of the movie and that lame Star Trek-ish ending one was hidden and I love having the option to not watch it. Plus many more. Fight Club is the only one I can think of to make use of that camera angle swapping button. The DVD versions of Dragon’s Lair and Space Ace wouldn’t work any other way.

                  Perfect way to kill time when others go for a last minute toilet visit or decide to make popcorn. I am not going to the trouble of transcoding my entire library to get less.

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                  i ripped all my dvds specifically to get rid of the menus because they were slow, hard to use, and full of frustrating animations. they usually just felt like an afterthought.

                  i've never been one to be swayed by extras, it usually just feels akin to jingling keys to get me to buy shit. maybe i'm weird.

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                    I've been using jellyfin for years.

                    My best recommendation is DELAY UPDATES and back up before you update.

                    I have a history of updates breaking everything so you should be careful about them.

                    All software recommends backing up before an update, but for jellyfin the shit is real, you really want to back up.

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                    I have Jellyfin running for years too and it has never broken for me, I use Linuxserver image, so maybe they delay the updates a bit?... Now, Immich has broken so many times that nowadays is the only docker I don't keep at latest (and I know using latest is a bad practice, I understand the reasons, but the convenience of not worrying about the versions beats all that for me)

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                    • surp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                      I just wanna get rid of Plex so bad but jellyfin isn't going to work for my grandma....

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                      Host both. Keep plex up for your gma, Jellyfin for everyone else. Tbh Jellyfin is also pretty intuitive. Currently I'm hosting both, but my gma doesn't use it, so I'll probably move completely to Jellyfin.

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                      • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                        i ripped all my dvds specifically to get rid of the menus because they were slow, hard to use, and full of frustrating animations. they usually just felt like an afterthought.

                        i've never been one to be swayed by extras, it usually just feels akin to jingling keys to get me to buy shit. maybe i'm weird.

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                        Streaming services don’t include any extras. Torrents (so I am told but I would never do that, myself, haha) are just the movie and maybe subtitles but nothing else. I doubt you are in the minority. Anyway, we are both afforded options to enjoy however we like. (Just wish I had chromecast support, but I will live). Cheers.

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                          Congrats. I'm super particular about covers and naming and the conversion of file names that Plex needed to jellyfin is intensive.

                          I finally got got JF up and running but still working on adding edition names to each item that is special. I really wish there was an editions field so it wasn't a manual title update. At least I can lock the field afterwards.

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                          You could use Radarr and Sonarr to rename all your content if you want to. You can setup your own naming scheme and it will change it for you. As far as I know Radarr and Sonarr work with Jellyfin/Plex/Emby/Kodi etc

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                            Streaming services don’t include any extras. Torrents (so I am told but I would never do that, myself, haha) are just the movie and maybe subtitles but nothing else. I doubt you are in the minority. Anyway, we are both afforded options to enjoy however we like. (Just wish I had chromecast support, but I will live). Cheers.

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                            oh absolutely, it's fascinating to hear a perspective i didn't know existed.

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                            • fingolfinz@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                              Welcome to the jelly. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

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                              ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

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                                after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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                                Plex still good for the boys that bought the lifetime pass. I understand why people would change. But it's still the best plug and play option. Waiting until they break the "lifetime" thing and fuck us over.

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                                  i have a lifetime plex pass, but I'd consider moving to jellyfin when their closed-captioning support reaches parity with plex. i regularly spin up a jellyfin container to try it out, but i still run into issues. And jellyfin's android apps are mediocre (in particular android auto support), especially for music compared to plexamp

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                                  For some reason I get permission errors on jellyfin every time I use it. Never with Plex. I've gone through the steps to fix it before. But when you change your shit as much as I do. I just stay with Plex because it's plug and play. And I have the pass. I don't have the time to fuck with stupid shit with jellyfin.

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                                  • surp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                    I just wanna get rid of Plex so bad but jellyfin isn't going to work for my grandma....

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                                    I've heard people had luck with Tailscale playing nicely with non Plex options. I can't say I've tried it. Though I do use Tailscale. Essentially if you setup Tailscale for Grandma it'll be like she's sitting on your local network. Even better, set it up on her router and you can literally debug all her Internet problems if you can ping it.

                                    Beyond that a raspberry pi with a battery backup on a 4G subscription connected to the router. That would be the ultimate "grandma" setup. Connect her router/modem power to remote power cycle. But I digress.

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                                    • father_redbeard@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

                                      Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try them out. One thing that I hate is critical for me is integration with Android auto. It's the last Google service I can't seem to quit. Might have to give up and just roll with Bluetooth instead.

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                                      Navidrome and Symphonium. I use Android Auto every day with no issues.

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                                      • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                                        i've never heard of anyone that keeps dvd menus around. like, i get it for archival purposes but i would never want to actually navigate a menu when i want to watch something. in my mind it's like sitting through the commercials on a rented vhs. i would probably store a converted copy as well, in a format that would let me specify from the application what track and subtitle i want so i can set a default.

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                                        i love old dvd menus 😞

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                                        • surp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                          I just wanna get rid of Plex so bad but jellyfin isn't going to work for my grandma....

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                                          if my parents can navigate it your grandma can 🙂

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