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goodbye plex

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  • M [email protected]

    I've heard jellyfin has a lot of security issues, which I don't know if that's accurate or not. But the BIGGEST issue is lack of a proper tvOS app. I really don't feel like using Infuse or some other app just to use my library. Year after year I hear about people switching and yet, the gap is simply still there.

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    Yeah, Samsung TVs don’t have a native Jellyfin app either. You can sideload it, but good luck walking your “you touched my computer six months ago and now it’s broken. This is your fault” grandmother through that over the phone.

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    • D [email protected]

      I've been using jellyfin for years.

      My best recommendation is DELAY UPDATES and back up before you update.

      I have a history of updates breaking everything so you should be careful about them.

      All software recommends backing up before an update, but for jellyfin the shit is real, you really want to back up.

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      Like the version or the media?

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        Like the version or the media?

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        I have it on docker with two volumes, ./config and ./cache

        I back up those before each update.

        A bad Jellyfin update should not mess with your media folder in anyway. Though you should have backups of those aswell as a rule of thumb.

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        • M [email protected]

          Unrelated but why a full VM for Linux stuff, lxc is much more efficient

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          Stronger compartmentalization

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            Like the version or the media?

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            the config and databases or the media, you mean?

            if so, the former, but I mount the meadia with a read only docker volume just to be sure, because chances are I would never notice it

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            • M [email protected]

              after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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              wrote last edited by
              #99

              I want to leave too, but I really like PlexAmp for my music streaming. And no, Finamp doesn't work nearly as well or look as nice.

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              • M [email protected]

                after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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                Does jellyfin do untranscoded video/audio?

                Haven't used it in years but finally building up my media server again and I remember it had some funky settings for hardware encoding back then which I didn't need because I was connecting to it via a repurposed gaming laptop that could easily handle 4k content and surround sound by itself.

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                • A [email protected]

                  Its monthly or lifetime and the lifetime is like 6-8 years of paying monthly.

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                  #101

                  Ah I didn’t know that. I doubt it was that much when I first got it, but I’m unsure. I’ve had it for a long time

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                  • father_redbeard@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

                    I want to leave too, but I really like PlexAmp for my music streaming. And no, Finamp doesn't work nearly as well or look as nice.

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                    What about subsonic or funkwhale? I think I also tried a third one I'm forgetting

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                      What about subsonic or funkwhale? I think I also tried a third one I'm forgetting

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                      Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try them out. One thing that I hate is critical for me is integration with Android auto. It's the last Google service I can't seem to quit. Might have to give up and just roll with Bluetooth instead.

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                      • mlg@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                        Does jellyfin do untranscoded video/audio?

                        Haven't used it in years but finally building up my media server again and I remember it had some funky settings for hardware encoding back then which I didn't need because I was connecting to it via a repurposed gaming laptop that could easily handle 4k content and surround sound by itself.

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                        #104

                        I use jellyfin for unencoded audio and video on my clients that support it like my newer television, but I also use transcoded audio video on things that can't handle the higher codecs like the raspberry pi.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Long time Jellyfin user here, welcome on board. I think biggest hurdle I should newbies warn about is the lack of availability on TizenOS.

                          Its possible but needs some extra steps.

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                          This is one of my issue with Jellyfin. It's a workaround to install the app onto Tizen. Updates are again manual. But zero issues since installation and runs smooth.

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                            So it does the Sonic adventure on mobile in a free app? And has offline storage? And has a station creator?

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                            Idk man there's a music player

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                            • D [email protected]

                              I have it on docker with two volumes, ./config and ./cache

                              I back up those before each update.

                              A bad Jellyfin update should not mess with your media folder in anyway. Though you should have backups of those aswell as a rule of thumb.

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                              With respect to the media, you can mount the volume as read only, preventing Jellyfin from accidentally wiping your underlying content.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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                                I just got Authentik / Traefik going for Navidrome, Jellyfin is next.

                                Does it play well for the mobile applications? If you use them?

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                                  Assuming this is all true, sure its not great but how much does it matter?

                                  Most have jellyfin in a docker. My jellyfin can't only has read only accses to the media folder. Only the config folder has write access. Assuming the worst case scenario here, how much damage can than do?

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                                  A lot of neophyte self hosters Will try running the binary in Windows instead. Experienced self hosters will indeed use docker.

                                  Then out of the ones that are using docker some of them will set it up as privileged.

                                  And then how many of those people actually make read-only versus how many just add the path and don't think about it.

                                  Don't confuse your good practices with what the average person will do.

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                                  • M [email protected]

                                    honestly every explanation probably just ends at 'this is what i learned on and it works'.

                                    Yeah, lots of these answers basically boil down to “when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”

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                                    These days the hammer is usually docker/podman/lxc containers instead of VMs though. Like, you don't need a container to run a self-contained statically-compiled binary, yet people still do it for some reason.

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      I just got Authentik / Traefik going for Navidrome, Jellyfin is next.

                                      Does it play well for the mobile applications? If you use them?

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                                      the ldap auth works great for the apps. apps dont play well with an oidc login process. i ended up using both, oidc for web and ldap fall back for applications. made it easier for my non tech inclined users. most of the current apps also support quick connect, like the plex link process. you auth on a web browser and enter a code into the app. so it's possible to use only oidc for log in and, i believe it should be possible use css to even hide the user name and password fields.

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                                      • I [email protected]

                                        Jellyfin us easy to run, but then when you are running it it just doesn't have your files. Are they in the incorrect folder structure? Who knows

                                        I literally just run Kodi and it just works, I can browse my folders and watch stuff

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                                        this was the dealbreaker for me. the demand for specific file and directory naming schemes with no default indexer seems deranged.

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                                        • father_redbeard@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

                                          Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try them out. One thing that I hate is critical for me is integration with Android auto. It's the last Google service I can't seem to quit. Might have to give up and just roll with Bluetooth instead.

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                                          symfonium has been mentioned in this post before specifically for android auto. i had the same hang up with apple car play. i didn't use most of the plexamp fancy features. i just wanted it to play music and be easy to use when driving. manet finally came along for ios. though i'm still hoping one of the open source apps adds the functionality later.

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