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Might be a bit of a tangent: use SIP at home via internet

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  • S solrize@lemmy.ml
    1 Jun 2025, 19:21

    Just use a sip phone app on your mobile. I use Linphone but there are lots of them.

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    darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 22:10 last edited by
    #8

    https://wiki.voip.ms/article/Softphones

    For anyone that needs a guide. Should work for most providers with some configuration changes.

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    • S sxan@midwest.social
      1 Jun 2025, 20:21

      My problem has always been finding a SIP company I wanted to give my money to, for providing a land line #. For a glorious, brief, period, I was able to do this through Google Voice. But then they got rid of that feature, and I haven't found another provider who I like the looks of.

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      desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 23:08 last edited by
      #9

      similarly looking for sip companies, specifically with less discrimination against the 49th state.

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      • S state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
        1 Jun 2025, 19:16

        I use a SIP provider for the landline at home. When on vacation I want to be able to make outbound calls with my landline number. I know this can be done, but I have no idea how. Does anyone here have some pointers for required hardware, software and configuration?

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        lordcrom@lemmy.world
        wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 23:46 last edited by
        #10

        I use this.

        I have Ms VoIP as my provider. $1 month per line and 1 cent per min.

        I have a grand stream sip adapter... Configured with my providers info and my creds. Phone can plug into it. Works just fine. Plus you can use any sip client to connect to the same line from mobile or PC.

        Also, my old house had pots lines in every room. I took my grand stream and wired it into the house, not a phone. So I can plug regular phones into any of the original outlets and it works as it directly connected to the grand stream. I have 4 regular phones all running over original wires into the grandstream using sip

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        • S state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
          1 Jun 2025, 19:16

          I use a SIP provider for the landline at home. When on vacation I want to be able to make outbound calls with my landline number. I know this can be done, but I have no idea how. Does anyone here have some pointers for required hardware, software and configuration?

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          autonomoususer@lemmy.world
          wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 02:41 last edited by autonomoususer@lemmy.world 6 Jan 2025, 22:58
          #11

          f-droid.org/en/packages/com.tutpro.baresip.plus/

          You might need to set a STUN server or similar, in settings.

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          • D desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            1 Jun 2025, 23:08

            similarly looking for sip companies, specifically with less discrimination against the 49th state.

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            sxan@midwest.social
            wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 10:45 last edited by
            #12

            I never considered that Alaska might be less serviced than other states, given how removed it is. It's no Hawaii, but still.

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            • L lordcrom@lemmy.world
              1 Jun 2025, 23:46

              I use this.

              I have Ms VoIP as my provider. $1 month per line and 1 cent per min.

              I have a grand stream sip adapter... Configured with my providers info and my creds. Phone can plug into it. Works just fine. Plus you can use any sip client to connect to the same line from mobile or PC.

              Also, my old house had pots lines in every room. I took my grand stream and wired it into the house, not a phone. So I can plug regular phones into any of the original outlets and it works as it directly connected to the grand stream. I have 4 regular phones all running over original wires into the grandstream using sip

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              jagged_circle@feddit.nl
              wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 14:31 last edited by
              #13

              Does that let you have a voicemail?

              I've long wanted a cheap way to setup a phone, when rung, picks up and plays a message telling the caller to email me. But everything I found for this is wayy more expensive than $12/yr

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              • L lordcrom@lemmy.world
                1 Jun 2025, 23:46

                I use this.

                I have Ms VoIP as my provider. $1 month per line and 1 cent per min.

                I have a grand stream sip adapter... Configured with my providers info and my creds. Phone can plug into it. Works just fine. Plus you can use any sip client to connect to the same line from mobile or PC.

                Also, my old house had pots lines in every room. I took my grand stream and wired it into the house, not a phone. So I can plug regular phones into any of the original outlets and it works as it directly connected to the grand stream. I have 4 regular phones all running over original wires into the grandstream using sip

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                jagged_circle@feddit.nl
                wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 14:32 last edited by jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 Feb 2025, 10:33
                #14

                Got a link to Ms VoIP?

                Googling it just gives info on Skype shutting down

                I 1 Reply Last reply 2 Jun 2025, 15:37
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                • D darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  1 Jun 2025, 22:10

                  https://wiki.voip.ms/article/Softphones

                  For anyone that needs a guide. Should work for most providers with some configuration changes.

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                  jagged_circle@feddit.nl
                  wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 14:34 last edited by
                  #15

                  Site doesn't load 😞

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                  • J jagged_circle@feddit.nl
                    2 Jun 2025, 14:32

                    Got a link to Ms VoIP?

                    Googling it just gives info on Skype shutting down

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                    ikidd@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 15:37 last edited by
                    #16

                    voip.ms

                    I've used them for well over a decade, I even sent the CEO an email when I had a CS rep telling me I couldn't do something I knew I could. He sorted it out within the hour.

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                    • J jagged_circle@feddit.nl
                      2 Jun 2025, 14:34

                      Site doesn't load 😞

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                      ikidd@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 15:39 last edited by
                      #17

                      Try again, loads for me.

                      J 1 Reply Last reply 2 Jun 2025, 16:22
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                      • S state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
                        1 Jun 2025, 19:16

                        I use a SIP provider for the landline at home. When on vacation I want to be able to make outbound calls with my landline number. I know this can be done, but I have no idea how. Does anyone here have some pointers for required hardware, software and configuration?

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                        ikidd@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 15:39 last edited by
                        #18

                        You can install Linphone from the Fdroid repository, and register it with your SIP provider as an extension. How you set it up as an extension will vary by the provider.

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                        • S sxan@midwest.social
                          1 Jun 2025, 20:21

                          My problem has always been finding a SIP company I wanted to give my money to, for providing a land line #. For a glorious, brief, period, I was able to do this through Google Voice. But then they got rid of that feature, and I haven't found another provider who I like the looks of.

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                          ikidd@lemmy.world
                          wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 15:42 last edited by
                          #19

                          I replied to another person in this thread, but I've used voip.ms for well over a decade for a few different businesses and personal use, and they've always been responsive and responsible.

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                          • I ikidd@lemmy.world
                            2 Jun 2025, 15:39

                            Try again, loads for me.

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                            jagged_circle@feddit.nl
                            wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 16:22 last edited by
                            #20

                            Still doesn't load. Try in tor browser

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                            • I ikidd@lemmy.world
                              2 Jun 2025, 15:37

                              voip.ms

                              I've used them for well over a decade, I even sent the CEO an email when I had a CS rep telling me I couldn't do something I knew I could. He sorted it out within the hour.

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                              jagged_circle@feddit.nl
                              wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 16:23 last edited by jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 Feb 2025, 20:11
                              #21

                              Thanks. Unfortunately that site doesn't load.

                              Maybe you can email the CEO asking them to check their site on tor browser in strict mode?

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                              • S state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
                                1 Jun 2025, 19:16

                                I use a SIP provider for the landline at home. When on vacation I want to be able to make outbound calls with my landline number. I know this can be done, but I have no idea how. Does anyone here have some pointers for required hardware, software and configuration?

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                                thorrjo@lemmy.sdf.org
                                wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 20:29 last edited by
                                #22

                                Save yourself a lot of trouble and get a hardware SIP phone like the Grandstream WP826. I spent years struggling with software phones, most of them suck ass and the good ones aren't very good.

                                quick unboxing video

                                Then make sure to enable voice transport encryption and set SIP transport to TLS (not UDP) and set keepalive timers to something below 3 minutes or so. The encryption settings are not just for security, using TLS for SIP transport has way fewer problems with incoming calls than UDP in 2025 network environments.

                                There are some firmware issues with the Grandstream WP826 but they are steadily releasing new firmware updates every month or two. If you need absolute bulletproof reliability go for something more expensive, otherwise the WP826 or similar model will likely be good enough (I say that as someone who is easily vexed by shitty software/electronics)

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                                • D desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                  1 Jun 2025, 23:08

                                  similarly looking for sip companies, specifically with less discrimination against the 49th state.

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                                  thorrjo@lemmy.sdf.org
                                  wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 20:30 last edited by
                                  #23

                                  try voip dot ms

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                                  • J jagged_circle@feddit.nl
                                    2 Jun 2025, 16:23

                                    Thanks. Unfortunately that site doesn't load.

                                    Maybe you can email the CEO asking them to check their site on tor browser in strict mode?

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                                    thorrjo@lemmy.sdf.org
                                    wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 20:32 last edited by
                                    #24

                                    Voip dot ms employs a ton of countermeasures versus skript kiddies as voip fraud is a severe problem. You are unlikely to have much luck with Tor Browser. I have to ask them to take my boring data center IP off their greylist every time I want to add cash to my balance.

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                                    • T thorrjo@lemmy.sdf.org
                                      2 Jun 2025, 20:32

                                      Voip dot ms employs a ton of countermeasures versus skript kiddies as voip fraud is a severe problem. You are unlikely to have much luck with Tor Browser. I have to ask them to take my boring data center IP off their greylist every time I want to add cash to my balance.

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                                      jagged_circle@feddit.nl
                                      wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 21:18 last edited by jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 Feb 2025, 20:17
                                      #25

                                      Sounds like they don't know how to do security, then

                                      Are the rest of their engineers so incompetent, or only their security department?

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                                      • I ikidd@lemmy.world
                                        2 Jun 2025, 15:42

                                        I replied to another person in this thread, but I've used voip.ms for well over a decade for a few different businesses and personal use, and they've always been responsive and responsible.

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                                        sxan@midwest.social
                                        wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 22:48 last edited by
                                        #26

                                        Thank you, I'll check them out.

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                                        • J jagged_circle@feddit.nl
                                          2 Jun 2025, 16:23

                                          Thanks. Unfortunately that site doesn't load.

                                          Maybe you can email the CEO asking them to check their site on tor browser in strict mode?

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                                          ikidd@lemmy.world
                                          wrote on 3 Jun 2025, 01:21 last edited by
                                          #27

                                          Yah, I'm not going to do that.

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