Peersuite p2p encrypted discord alternative
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wrote on 30 May 2025, 04:33 last edited by
Hey everyone.
I make Peersuite, an opensource free communication platform.
It's private by default, there's no sign-in or email collection.
It's peer-to-peer, there's no server, after discovery you are connected directly to your friends my AES-GCN encrypted WebRTC channels. It forms a mesh and identifies superpeers. Because there is no server, in order to save your data between sessions, you can download your workspace into a password encrypted file.
Happy to answer any questions.FEATURES:
chat with images, PMs, channels, and file send
group audio/video calling
screensharing
kanban board
whiteboard for diagrams/flowchartswith PNG export
collaborative document editing with formatted PDF exportThe best way for self hosting is docker, its on dockerhub as openconstruct/peersuite. You can also download desktop versions from the github or use on the web at https://peersuite.space/
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Hey everyone.
I make Peersuite, an opensource free communication platform.
It's private by default, there's no sign-in or email collection.
It's peer-to-peer, there's no server, after discovery you are connected directly to your friends my AES-GCN encrypted WebRTC channels. It forms a mesh and identifies superpeers. Because there is no server, in order to save your data between sessions, you can download your workspace into a password encrypted file.
Happy to answer any questions.FEATURES:
chat with images, PMs, channels, and file send
group audio/video calling
screensharing
kanban board
whiteboard for diagrams/flowchartswith PNG export
collaborative document editing with formatted PDF exportThe best way for self hosting is docker, its on dockerhub as openconstruct/peersuite. You can also download desktop versions from the github or use on the web at https://peersuite.space/
wrote on 30 May 2025, 09:24 last edited byI'm gonna try this when I get time to tinker around since my friend and I are becoming exceedingly weary of Discord for communication. I also hate how bulky and rigid it is in its design.
Edit: Tested it on LAN between my PC and phone; it's easy to get running and works great. Some buttons seem invisible on mobile, like the channels list, so I had a hard time joining the "general" channel upon connecting to the workspace. I want to test it with my friend to see how it works across networks but it seems really promising so far.
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I'm gonna try this when I get time to tinker around since my friend and I are becoming exceedingly weary of Discord for communication. I also hate how bulky and rigid it is in its design.
Edit: Tested it on LAN between my PC and phone; it's easy to get running and works great. Some buttons seem invisible on mobile, like the channels list, so I had a hard time joining the "general" channel upon connecting to the workspace. I want to test it with my friend to see how it works across networks but it seems really promising so far.
wrote on 30 May 2025, 22:06 last edited byWhat kind of phone? I do testing during development and it works fine on my tablet.
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Hey everyone.
I make Peersuite, an opensource free communication platform.
It's private by default, there's no sign-in or email collection.
It's peer-to-peer, there's no server, after discovery you are connected directly to your friends my AES-GCN encrypted WebRTC channels. It forms a mesh and identifies superpeers. Because there is no server, in order to save your data between sessions, you can download your workspace into a password encrypted file.
Happy to answer any questions.FEATURES:
chat with images, PMs, channels, and file send
group audio/video calling
screensharing
kanban board
whiteboard for diagrams/flowchartswith PNG export
collaborative document editing with formatted PDF exportThe best way for self hosting is docker, its on dockerhub as openconstruct/peersuite. You can also download desktop versions from the github or use on the web at https://peersuite.space/
wrote on 30 May 2025, 23:24 last edited byWell hell I may stand this up tonight. My only question is does the voice chat support push-to-talk?
Edit: Ok, gave it a spin. It does not support push-to-talk but being fully browser based I don't think that's a trivial thing to implement anyway.
That said, this is pretty sweet though certainly still rudimentary. I was really looking forward to the screen sharing but my friend on the other end said the quality and framerate were pretty bad. Not sure what flexibility there is as far as adjustable bit rate and framerate with what you're doing but I'll definitely be keeping my eye on this project.
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Well hell I may stand this up tonight. My only question is does the voice chat support push-to-talk?
Edit: Ok, gave it a spin. It does not support push-to-talk but being fully browser based I don't think that's a trivial thing to implement anyway.
That said, this is pretty sweet though certainly still rudimentary. I was really looking forward to the screen sharing but my friend on the other end said the quality and framerate were pretty bad. Not sure what flexibility there is as far as adjustable bit rate and framerate with what you're doing but I'll definitely be keeping my eye on this project.
wrote on 31 May 2025, 04:31 last edited byPush to talk is in testing now. WebRTC changes quality automatically based on bandwidth. Its usually really good. It runs at full quality in testing ( i have like 6 devices I hook up and test). If you guys normally have a good connection, try again?
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What kind of phone? I do testing during development and it works fine on my tablet.
wrote on 31 May 2025, 09:53 last edited byI have a Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G. It seems like anything near the bottom of the screen gets cut off and I'm not able to scroll down to see it.
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Push to talk is in testing now. WebRTC changes quality automatically based on bandwidth. Its usually really good. It runs at full quality in testing ( i have like 6 devices I hook up and test). If you guys normally have a good connection, try again?
wrote on 31 May 2025, 19:32 last edited byPerhaps talking about bitrate wasn't correct of me. After looking at this again image quality itself is actually pretty good but the framerate is a different story.
To provide context, I used it to share the video game I was playing as my friends that use discord tell me they primarily stick to it for its screen sharing capability which they use when gaming.
I'm not sure how to best test this and provide metrics to you if this is improvable or even something you care about.
To attempt to take the connection factor out of the equation I opened two browser windows and viewed my own screen share from a different username and even then the framerate is not great.
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Perhaps talking about bitrate wasn't correct of me. After looking at this again image quality itself is actually pretty good but the framerate is a different story.
To provide context, I used it to share the video game I was playing as my friends that use discord tell me they primarily stick to it for its screen sharing capability which they use when gaming.
I'm not sure how to best test this and provide metrics to you if this is improvable or even something you care about.
To attempt to take the connection factor out of the equation I opened two browser windows and viewed my own screen share from a different username and even then the framerate is not great.
wrote on 31 May 2025, 23:58 last edited byHow are you using it browser or electron? What OS?
It looks great in my testing, wil ltry and reproduce the effect you're getting, -
I have a Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G. It seems like anything near the bottom of the screen gets cut off and I'm not able to scroll down to see it.
wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 01:55 last edited byI have a galaxy I test on, what can't you see?
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I have a galaxy I test on, what can't you see?
Could you take some screenshots?wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 14:37 last edited byI just tested it again and now #general shows up right after I join on mobile. I think it's possible that I was having network/browser issues or something at the exact moment I tried it before.
I am really into this, it was such a breeze to set up. Are there plans to offer more customization options like custom CSS, an editable configuration file, or something like that? I have a Podman container set up and I'm thinking of creating a volume mount to add some very basic styling but official support would be great.
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Hey everyone.
I make Peersuite, an opensource free communication platform.
It's private by default, there's no sign-in or email collection.
It's peer-to-peer, there's no server, after discovery you are connected directly to your friends my AES-GCN encrypted WebRTC channels. It forms a mesh and identifies superpeers. Because there is no server, in order to save your data between sessions, you can download your workspace into a password encrypted file.
Happy to answer any questions.FEATURES:
chat with images, PMs, channels, and file send
group audio/video calling
screensharing
kanban board
whiteboard for diagrams/flowchartswith PNG export
collaborative document editing with formatted PDF exportThe best way for self hosting is docker, its on dockerhub as openconstruct/peersuite. You can also download desktop versions from the github or use on the web at https://peersuite.space/
wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 16:53 last edited byDoes it have voice rooms yet ?
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Does it have voice rooms yet ?
wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 02:20 last edited byVoice is workspace-wide currently, there's no way to separate off as it stands now
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I just tested it again and now #general shows up right after I join on mobile. I think it's possible that I was having network/browser issues or something at the exact moment I tried it before.
I am really into this, it was such a breeze to set up. Are there plans to offer more customization options like custom CSS, an editable configuration file, or something like that? I have a Podman container set up and I'm thinking of creating a volume mount to add some very basic styling but official support would be great.
wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 02:21 last edited byNo current plans, but that would be a great idea! If you just want to edit the CSS, it's all in index.html
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No current plans, but that would be a great idea! If you just want to edit the CSS, it's all in index.html
wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 02:28 last edited byAh, no worries for now. I took out the inline CSS and replaced it with an external file, so I'll work on that.
I made some minor adjustments already, like removing the transform on hover and having the whiteboard to expand to fit its container, so that's nice. Have you thought about implementing draw.io or excalidraw?
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Ah, no worries for now. I took out the inline CSS and replaced it with an external file, so I'll work on that.
I made some minor adjustments already, like removing the transform on hover and having the whiteboard to expand to fit its container, so that's nice. Have you thought about implementing draw.io or excalidraw?
wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 17:32 last edited bySomeone mentioned excalidraw on github also. If it would blend into the rest of the UI I wouldn't mind, I'm not in love with the one I made lol.
Could you make a PR with your changes on github? So far nobody has contributed any CSS changes, and I know I'm not great at design. -
Perhaps talking about bitrate wasn't correct of me. After looking at this again image quality itself is actually pretty good but the framerate is a different story.
To provide context, I used it to share the video game I was playing as my friends that use discord tell me they primarily stick to it for its screen sharing capability which they use when gaming.
I'm not sure how to best test this and provide metrics to you if this is improvable or even something you care about.
To attempt to take the connection factor out of the equation I opened two browser windows and viewed my own screen share from a different username and even then the framerate is not great.
wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 14:15 last edited byMaybe give https://vdo.ninja/?screenshare=&quality=0 a try?
That's also completely WebRTC direct connection based. Saved as a bookmark it's simple to spin up a stream, so the chat decision is disconnected from the streaming. -
How are you using it browser or electron? What OS?
It looks great in my testing, wil ltry and reproduce the effect you're getting,wrote 27 days ago last edited byApologies for the long delay. I was using just the browser via your docker image but today I've done some testing with the electeon app.
Wonderful that you added PTT but it's implementation has a flaw as the Peersuite window MUST be in focus for the PTT key to be read.
As far as the video goes, I've definitely confirmed that there's is some serious frame drop which I'm assuming is directly related to the bitrate in same way. I had a friend on windows use the electron app and share his screen while I watched from the electron app on Linux. I took the following recording to better demonstrate what I'm saying. The quality has gone through multiple transcodes now but that's not really important as the framerate is what I'm referring to anyway. https://files.catbox.moe/03f5b1.mkv
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Apologies for the long delay. I was using just the browser via your docker image but today I've done some testing with the electeon app.
Wonderful that you added PTT but it's implementation has a flaw as the Peersuite window MUST be in focus for the PTT key to be read.
As far as the video goes, I've definitely confirmed that there's is some serious frame drop which I'm assuming is directly related to the bitrate in same way. I had a friend on windows use the electron app and share his screen while I watched from the electron app on Linux. I took the following recording to better demonstrate what I'm saying. The quality has gone through multiple transcodes now but that's not really important as the framerate is what I'm referring to anyway. https://files.catbox.moe/03f5b1.mkv
wrote 24 days ago last edited byYeah that doesn't look great. Maybe 15-20 fps tops. It scales depending on bandwidth, do you get better quality with discord?
