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    Throwing it out there - I am tired of left always acting as if something done decade ago was still fresh. Pewds changed, he flipped his whole video formula, and even back then evil things he did were at least questionable. Let it go folks. You are doing nothing else than making yourself look like bitter old people.

    Edit: I noticed it's not obvious what I am talking about. Other comments. People constantly talking about how Pewds is a nazi.

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    Other than hearing his name, I've never seen any of his content, nor do I know any of his lore. If in fact, he once was and has now changed his core convictions, then great. I have no issue with anyone who changes their minds in light of new evidence, or after taking inventory of one's life, and deciding a new route. Both are commendable. Lord knows we've all done some shit in the past that was definitely cringe...I know I have. But we grow, and we learn, and in the process we become better human beings.

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      That's funny I've been DONE with poopoopie for a few years. Somehow people keep pushing this creep.

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        Articles too much time too, so I made you this

        • Google bad, tracking sucks
        • Android -> graphene
        • Keep -> joplin
        • Docs -> nextcloud
        • Gmail -> proton
        • GMaps -> car GPS
        • Tailscale
        • Selfhosted on SteamDeck
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        GMaps -> car GPS

        What? No. OSM or literally anything else than a fucking car. Stars and sextant.

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        • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

          I’ve never heard of dropout or nebula. At all

          I must admit, I find that astonishing. Not that the average person on the street wouldn't have heard of them, but that someone online enough to be having these sorts of conversations wouldn't have.

          Are you familiar with CollegeHumor, perhaps? After their corporate owners got screwed around by Facebook's pivot to video (and the fraudulent data involved), they were going to shut down CH entirely until the head of the creative group reached an agreement to buy it out, and under his ownership he created the private streaming service Dropout. Today it's mostly entirely private, with promotional content like the occasional episode or clips uploaded as Shorts put onto YouTube.

          Nebula got its start as a sort of multi-channel network owned by and for YouTube creators, to avoid many of the big pitfalls that MCNs became known for. Its earliest more well-known members are Sam from Wendover/Half As Interesting, Brian from Real Engineering, Colin from CGP Grey, and Philip from Kursgesagt. The latter two later left over "creative differences" (leaks have seemed to imply, basically, that they wanted to keep it a small elite group at the core which could profit from increased growth while adding more creators, while the rest of the people then involved wanted a more equitable arrangement). It's since grown to way too many channels to name, but if you're interested you can see the full list here. A few choice selections might include tech reporter TechAltar (whose recent "1 month without US tech giants" and the Nebula Plus follow-up "Which alternatives am I sticking with?" video are reminiscent of the one this thread is about), astrophysicist Angela Collier, Canadian cultural commentator J.J. McCullough, history & video game design analysis channels Extra History & Extra Credits, TLDR News, human geography (with a focus on conflicts) from RealLifeLore. Linus from LTT has talked about Nebula once or twice, though his commentary on it gets wildly wrong, claiming it was a sort of pump & dump scheme where the main goal was to sell to private equity or something, seemingly because he's projecting his own techbro capitalist attitude onto them. As I sort of mentioned above, Nebula basically serves as an uber-patreon. You pay a single subscription fee (when I signed up it was $30 per year, but it may have changed) to get mostly content that could be gotten for free (but with ads) on YouTube, plus some bonus content, some stuff a bit earlier, and a few Nebula Originals. Lindsay Ellis might be the most notable one there. Since getting harassed off the Internet by Twitter, all her videos have been Nebula Originals apart from 2 promoting her new book.

          Neither of these are really meant to be a complete YouTube replacement, but rather a way for them to create more control over their stuff and get the stability of knowing they aren't relying on the fickle YouTube algorithm (and the whims of YouTube censorship).

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          Thank you, I will check these out!

          If anything came from this conversation, then at least one more pair of eyes is away from yt.

          Now if only I could figure out how to use peertube...

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          • irmadlad@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

            Other than hearing his name, I've never seen any of his content, nor do I know any of his lore. If in fact, he once was and has now changed his core convictions, then great. I have no issue with anyone who changes their minds in light of new evidence, or after taking inventory of one's life, and deciding a new route. Both are commendable. Lord knows we've all done some shit in the past that was definitely cringe...I know I have. But we grow, and we learn, and in the process we become better human beings.

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            He never was. When teenagers used to scream n-word for shit and giggles, he was monetarily incentivised to do stupid stunts. No belief behind, other than to have a laugh and jump in views. When he crossed the line and was critised for it, he backed off, apologised and learned from his mistakes.

            But people love draging it out each and every single time he does anything, be it good or bad.

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            • J [email protected]

              Not the person you're replying to, but honestly I don't pay attention to pop culture shit, so I'd ask honestly too, and thanks for providing the explanation, I assumed he had moved on since I heard little of his antics anymore but it's good to see info. Don't assume people know things like that. Just assume they don't and get to be one of todays lucky 10,000. 🙂

              In case you aren't familiar with the lucky 10k, see here.

              https://xkcd.com/1053/

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              The discourse goes to the same fucking place every time Felix is mentioned. People don't deserve the benefit of doubt.

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                I'm worried about Nebula's business model being profitable enough to be sustainable in the long term but given their business model includes making every creator on the platform a part-owner of the platform that does limit how bad things can get

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                From everything I've heard, they're already profitable, and are explicitly choosing only to grow in a sustainable way, without taking on outside investment which could force them into enshittifying down the line. With a relative lack of need to show extreme growth, and a lack of reliance on outside factors like advertising (being subscription-based), the only major risk that I can see for them long-term is user churn. Which is definitely a risk, but with the ever-creeping growth of the range of content they have and (at least for now) an attitude of being customer-friendly, churn seems a relatively low risk.

                As far as I can see, at worst, the platform dies if the YouTube channels of the people on the platform die because of the YouTube algorithm, and they get bad churn (with fewer new subscribers because of the aforementioned dead YouTube channels at the top of the funnel), and they don't get new more successful channels on before that happens. A scenario that's far from unlikely, but which I would describe as "catastrophic, whether or not Nebula exists today", so its existence for now as a hedge against more likely bad scenarios is still worthwhile.

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                  Man I want to move to Graphene so bad. I want all the google ripped out of my phone.

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                  It was incredibly easy to do and a refurbished pixel 8 is way cheaper than a new phone.

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                    GMaps -> car GPS

                    What? No. OSM or literally anything else than a fucking car. Stars and sextant.

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                    Because traffic data can't be obtained without some tracking...

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                      Thank you, I will check these out!

                      If anything came from this conversation, then at least one more pair of eyes is away from yt.

                      Now if only I could figure out how to use peertube...

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                      I will check these out

                      FWIW the specific channels I recommended were mostly based on stalking your user profile and grabbing a couple I thought might interest you based on that. But I didn't have much to go on from your Lemmy history specifically. They weren't necessarily the first ones I'd recommend to someone in the general public, or to someone whose interests I knew better.

                      if only I could figure out how to use peertube

                      From my experience trying Peertube, its biggest problem for now is just...the server infrastructure of existing instances isn't very good. I got really bad buffering. Maybe better server-side encoding could have helped with that. Maybe they need stronger server hardware with better outbound network connections. Maybe I just need to find a more locally-hosted instance to me. Maybe it's something else. But the user experience was really not good. Which is a shame. As nice as Nebula's sort of worker-owned co-op model is, true federated video would be really nice for those of us not privileged enough to become a member of the exclusive club. YouTube being basically the only real option really sucks, and I'm sick of alternative options like Gfycat dying off and losing all their content.

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                        This guy is a Nazi, remember?

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                        Someone on Lemmy Linux pointed out his past in detail, and I agree he was DEFINETLY going through the far right pipeline.

                        However, he never continued it, never delved into it farther, never pushed that crap further (the dirtiest thing was hosting I think Shapiro for meme review, which while very bad, at least didn't keep that shit up. Do wish he'd delete the video though), and seems to have changed paths after getting into actual philosophy. He's never been a politician who's destroyed people's lives or a billionaire or called for people to be harmed, either.

                        If we hold people like him to the same likeness of people like Musk or Shapiro etc, progressiveness will lose the cultural war to fascism. By equating any potential ally into an enemy, you only destroy your cause, and certainly only help fascists far more.

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                          Listen, we don't read the article and we don't watch the video before commenting. Maybe we're reading the headline first. Maybe. This is the way and it has always been the way.

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                          I agree it is that way currently, unfortunately, but it's definitely a recent phenomenon (last 10y).

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                            Why would anyone watch a pewdiepie video?

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                            To discuss the video in a comments section associated with it.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              LBRY is cool but I'm honestly sketched out by the creators that currently exist there. It's mostly weird libertarians and crypto bros plus random porn bots. Also between the first and most recent times I played with it they added a CDN that hosts all of the files and something like 99% of the data I downloaded while farting around on there came from that single official CDN, so very decentralized.

                              Peertube has actual large creators who aren't weird conservative podcasters, and tons of different servers already which serve content, and great Mastadon integration which puts it in a much better spot for growth moving forwards than LBRY. You can literally watch peertube videos from Mastadon (Which has millions of active users including some celebrities and government officials) and comment on them from Mastadon, so there's kinda already a userbase measured in millions depending on how you classify cross-fediverse users

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                              mostly weird libertarians and crypto bros plus random porn bots

                              Maybe yeah. In fact, the only video I've ever watched on LBRY is from a YouTuber named Mental Outlaw

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                                Man I want to move to Graphene so bad. I want all the google ripped out of my phone.

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                                what's stopping you? was the very first thing I did, don't regret it for a second -- https://ocv.me/b/img/IMG_20230811_121845_049.1ssy.jpg "i'm about to finish setting up my pixel alright" 😛

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                                  Not the person you're replying to, but honestly I don't pay attention to pop culture shit, so I'd ask honestly too, and thanks for providing the explanation, I assumed he had moved on since I heard little of his antics anymore but it's good to see info. Don't assume people know things like that. Just assume they don't and get to be one of todays lucky 10,000. 🙂

                                  In case you aren't familiar with the lucky 10k, see here.

                                  https://xkcd.com/1053/

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                                  Yeah I remember when he was a big name doing that shit. Then he recently popped up talking linux. And in between it became a somewhat regular occurrence in my country for people to march with swastika flags. For all I knew it was edgy jokes from an era where fascism was still outside the Overton window, or he just became a low key supporter of modern fascism but without any stunts big enough to get noticed

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                                    what's stopping you? was the very first thing I did, don't regret it for a second -- https://ocv.me/b/img/IMG_20230811_121845_049.1ssy.jpg "i'm about to finish setting up my pixel alright" 😛

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                                    The cost of buying a pixel is the only thing stopping me. I don't have enough to replace my aging phone with much of anything, let alone a pixel.

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                                      The discourse goes to the same fucking place every time Felix is mentioned. People don't deserve the benefit of doubt.

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                                      ? Who is Felix? Is that pewdipie?

                                      Did this go to the same place?

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                                        ? Who is Felix? Is that pewdipie?

                                        Did this go to the same place?

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                                        Extrapolate from the context. I'm tired of explaining obvious things to unreceptive people.

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                                          The cost of buying a pixel is the only thing stopping me. I don't have enough to replace my aging phone with much of anything, let alone a pixel.

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                                          in that case I would feel comfortable going with a refurb like theloweststone mentioned; pixels are the only(?) android devices which let you swap out the bootloader in a safe manner, so even a phone that's been in shady hands should be fine if the boot hash matches. And if you know another person with graphene you can do the attestation just to be certain.

                                          but since the future of GrapheneOS is slightly shaky at the moment, I've looking at alternatives for when my current device inevitably bites the dust -- fairphone and pinephone both look like decent choices at first glance. It's an unfortunate situation but just gotta roll with it!

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