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    How can he be done with Google and still posting YouTube videos?

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    Literally his income source

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      ? I want the answer. I am not sure if you are saying he is a nazi or he is not.

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      I seriously doubt that anyone who asks that question doesn't already have a foregone conclusion, but fine, I'll indulge you.

      Probably not. If he was, and had been hiding it his entire life, even in the era when he was the youtube star and had zero restraint, why would he slip up those few times, and especially such highly public ways?

      He did and said some shit in his early 20s, and he deserved the criticism at the time, but those incidents weren't repeated and weren't part of a pattern. He wasn't the paragon of virtue and maturity, but I'm willing to bet my left nut that neither are the people who are lining up to crucify him, and the only difference is that he had an audience. The people who aren't willing to let go of their prejudices after a decade are equally as immature.

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      • L [email protected]

        The entire thesis of that video was "fiver and things like that lead to exploitation of the global poor", the sign thing was just a catchy clickbait thing.

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        He's a dumbass.

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          Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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          Pobodies nerfect....

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          • nfreak@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

            Yeah this is why it's so offputting seeing so much praise for him here. I don't believe he's ever outright apologized and owned up to what he's said and done in the past (I could be wrong though?). Last I checked the dude was literally a neo nazi.

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            My wife was a PewDiePie fan from before the slur incident so I've loosely seen some of his content over the years. He's apologized multiple times, and he's shifted his style significantly multiple times since then.

            Basically in the last few years he's grown up a ton. He married his girlfriend of a decade or more after earlier refusing marriage, had a baby, emigrated to Japan and now posts tons of creative and day-in-the-life style vlogs

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            • A [email protected]

              My own domain?!? Any suggestions??

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              Whatever name fits your fancy. Go with solid registrars like Namecheap or cloudflare.

              Once you get your domain, you can use most any email provider to handle mail for that domain. Fastmail is really good. Or proton if you want the encryption.

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                Man I want to move to Graphene so bad. I want all the google ripped out of my phone.

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                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                  I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don't ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don't need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

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                  Literally all of them have tried at some point. But honestly you just end up with a bunch of effectively streaming services that you have to pay for.

                  I already have hbo, Netflix, krangle + and Hulu and YouTube and now I need «randomyoutuber+» x10 too?

                  Yeah no thanks

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                    I seriously doubt that anyone who asks that question doesn't already have a foregone conclusion, but fine, I'll indulge you.

                    Probably not. If he was, and had been hiding it his entire life, even in the era when he was the youtube star and had zero restraint, why would he slip up those few times, and especially such highly public ways?

                    He did and said some shit in his early 20s, and he deserved the criticism at the time, but those incidents weren't repeated and weren't part of a pattern. He wasn't the paragon of virtue and maturity, but I'm willing to bet my left nut that neither are the people who are lining up to crucify him, and the only difference is that he had an audience. The people who aren't willing to let go of their prejudices after a decade are equally as immature.

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                    Not the person you're replying to, but honestly I don't pay attention to pop culture shit, so I'd ask honestly too, and thanks for providing the explanation, I assumed he had moved on since I heard little of his antics anymore but it's good to see info. Don't assume people know things like that. Just assume they don't and get to be one of todays lucky 10,000. 🙂

                    In case you aren't familiar with the lucky 10k, see here.

                    https://xkcd.com/1053/

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                    • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                      Well, there is Nebula, which is kinda like that. But most of them also put their videos on YouTube, using Nebula as the premium ad-free option with a little bonus content.

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                      I'm worried about Nebula's business model being profitable enough to be sustainable in the long term but given their business model includes making every creator on the platform a part-owner of the platform that does limit how bad things can get

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                        I'm sure these are accurate statements, but the fact remains that I've never heard of dropout or nebula. At all.

                        And the only reason I've heard of floatplane is via LTT and Jeff Geerling, and I don't actually use the platform itself.

                        That's what I mean about inertia, google has it now and can coast for years on people just being lazy and staying with YouTube. That alone will be a loooong hill to climb for any other platforms.

                        LTT seems to have enough clout and has worked out a survivable business model, but notice that they remain on YouTube to capture and keep new views.

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                        I’ve never heard of dropout or nebula. At all

                        I must admit, I find that astonishing. Not that the average person on the street wouldn't have heard of them, but that someone online enough to be having these sorts of conversations wouldn't have.

                        Are you familiar with CollegeHumor, perhaps? After their corporate owners got screwed around by Facebook's pivot to video (and the fraudulent data involved), they were going to shut down CH entirely until the head of the creative group reached an agreement to buy it out, and under his ownership he created the private streaming service Dropout. Today it's mostly entirely private, with promotional content like the occasional episode or clips uploaded as Shorts put onto YouTube.

                        Nebula got its start as a sort of multi-channel network owned by and for YouTube creators, to avoid many of the big pitfalls that MCNs became known for. Its earliest more well-known members are Sam from Wendover/Half As Interesting, Brian from Real Engineering, Colin from CGP Grey, and Philip from Kursgesagt. The latter two later left over "creative differences" (leaks have seemed to imply, basically, that they wanted to keep it a small elite group at the core which could profit from increased growth while adding more creators, while the rest of the people then involved wanted a more equitable arrangement). It's since grown to way too many channels to name, but if you're interested you can see the full list here. A few choice selections might include tech reporter TechAltar (whose recent "1 month without US tech giants" and the Nebula Plus follow-up "Which alternatives am I sticking with?" video are reminiscent of the one this thread is about), astrophysicist Angela Collier, Canadian cultural commentator J.J. McCullough, history & video game design analysis channels Extra History & Extra Credits, TLDR News, human geography (with a focus on conflicts) from RealLifeLore. Linus from LTT has talked about Nebula once or twice, though his commentary on it gets wildly wrong, claiming it was a sort of pump & dump scheme where the main goal was to sell to private equity or something, seemingly because he's projecting his own techbro capitalist attitude onto them. As I sort of mentioned above, Nebula basically serves as an uber-patreon. You pay a single subscription fee (when I signed up it was $30 per year, but it may have changed) to get mostly content that could be gotten for free (but with ads) on YouTube, plus some bonus content, some stuff a bit earlier, and a few Nebula Originals. Lindsay Ellis might be the most notable one there. Since getting harassed off the Internet by Twitter, all her videos have been Nebula Originals apart from 2 promoting her new book.

                        Neither of these are really meant to be a complete YouTube replacement, but rather a way for them to create more control over their stuff and get the stability of knowing they aren't relying on the fickle YouTube algorithm (and the whims of YouTube censorship).

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                          Throwing it out there - I am tired of left always acting as if something done decade ago was still fresh. Pewds changed, he flipped his whole video formula, and even back then evil things he did were at least questionable. Let it go folks. You are doing nothing else than making yourself look like bitter old people.

                          Edit: I noticed it's not obvious what I am talking about. Other comments. People constantly talking about how Pewds is a nazi.

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                          Other than hearing his name, I've never seen any of his content, nor do I know any of his lore. If in fact, he once was and has now changed his core convictions, then great. I have no issue with anyone who changes their minds in light of new evidence, or after taking inventory of one's life, and deciding a new route. Both are commendable. Lord knows we've all done some shit in the past that was definitely cringe...I know I have. But we grow, and we learn, and in the process we become better human beings.

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                            That's funny I've been DONE with poopoopie for a few years. Somehow people keep pushing this creep.

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                              Articles too much time too, so I made you this

                              • Google bad, tracking sucks
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                              • Gmail -> proton
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                              GMaps -> car GPS

                              What? No. OSM or literally anything else than a fucking car. Stars and sextant.

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                              • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                                I’ve never heard of dropout or nebula. At all

                                I must admit, I find that astonishing. Not that the average person on the street wouldn't have heard of them, but that someone online enough to be having these sorts of conversations wouldn't have.

                                Are you familiar with CollegeHumor, perhaps? After their corporate owners got screwed around by Facebook's pivot to video (and the fraudulent data involved), they were going to shut down CH entirely until the head of the creative group reached an agreement to buy it out, and under his ownership he created the private streaming service Dropout. Today it's mostly entirely private, with promotional content like the occasional episode or clips uploaded as Shorts put onto YouTube.

                                Nebula got its start as a sort of multi-channel network owned by and for YouTube creators, to avoid many of the big pitfalls that MCNs became known for. Its earliest more well-known members are Sam from Wendover/Half As Interesting, Brian from Real Engineering, Colin from CGP Grey, and Philip from Kursgesagt. The latter two later left over "creative differences" (leaks have seemed to imply, basically, that they wanted to keep it a small elite group at the core which could profit from increased growth while adding more creators, while the rest of the people then involved wanted a more equitable arrangement). It's since grown to way too many channels to name, but if you're interested you can see the full list here. A few choice selections might include tech reporter TechAltar (whose recent "1 month without US tech giants" and the Nebula Plus follow-up "Which alternatives am I sticking with?" video are reminiscent of the one this thread is about), astrophysicist Angela Collier, Canadian cultural commentator J.J. McCullough, history & video game design analysis channels Extra History & Extra Credits, TLDR News, human geography (with a focus on conflicts) from RealLifeLore. Linus from LTT has talked about Nebula once or twice, though his commentary on it gets wildly wrong, claiming it was a sort of pump & dump scheme where the main goal was to sell to private equity or something, seemingly because he's projecting his own techbro capitalist attitude onto them. As I sort of mentioned above, Nebula basically serves as an uber-patreon. You pay a single subscription fee (when I signed up it was $30 per year, but it may have changed) to get mostly content that could be gotten for free (but with ads) on YouTube, plus some bonus content, some stuff a bit earlier, and a few Nebula Originals. Lindsay Ellis might be the most notable one there. Since getting harassed off the Internet by Twitter, all her videos have been Nebula Originals apart from 2 promoting her new book.

                                Neither of these are really meant to be a complete YouTube replacement, but rather a way for them to create more control over their stuff and get the stability of knowing they aren't relying on the fickle YouTube algorithm (and the whims of YouTube censorship).

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                                Thank you, I will check these out!

                                If anything came from this conversation, then at least one more pair of eyes is away from yt.

                                Now if only I could figure out how to use peertube...

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                                • irmadlad@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                  Other than hearing his name, I've never seen any of his content, nor do I know any of his lore. If in fact, he once was and has now changed his core convictions, then great. I have no issue with anyone who changes their minds in light of new evidence, or after taking inventory of one's life, and deciding a new route. Both are commendable. Lord knows we've all done some shit in the past that was definitely cringe...I know I have. But we grow, and we learn, and in the process we become better human beings.

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                                  He never was. When teenagers used to scream n-word for shit and giggles, he was monetarily incentivised to do stupid stunts. No belief behind, other than to have a laugh and jump in views. When he crossed the line and was critised for it, he backed off, apologised and learned from his mistakes.

                                  But people love draging it out each and every single time he does anything, be it good or bad.

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                                    Not the person you're replying to, but honestly I don't pay attention to pop culture shit, so I'd ask honestly too, and thanks for providing the explanation, I assumed he had moved on since I heard little of his antics anymore but it's good to see info. Don't assume people know things like that. Just assume they don't and get to be one of todays lucky 10,000. 🙂

                                    In case you aren't familiar with the lucky 10k, see here.

                                    https://xkcd.com/1053/

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                                    The discourse goes to the same fucking place every time Felix is mentioned. People don't deserve the benefit of doubt.

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                                      I'm worried about Nebula's business model being profitable enough to be sustainable in the long term but given their business model includes making every creator on the platform a part-owner of the platform that does limit how bad things can get

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                                      From everything I've heard, they're already profitable, and are explicitly choosing only to grow in a sustainable way, without taking on outside investment which could force them into enshittifying down the line. With a relative lack of need to show extreme growth, and a lack of reliance on outside factors like advertising (being subscription-based), the only major risk that I can see for them long-term is user churn. Which is definitely a risk, but with the ever-creeping growth of the range of content they have and (at least for now) an attitude of being customer-friendly, churn seems a relatively low risk.

                                      As far as I can see, at worst, the platform dies if the YouTube channels of the people on the platform die because of the YouTube algorithm, and they get bad churn (with fewer new subscribers because of the aforementioned dead YouTube channels at the top of the funnel), and they don't get new more successful channels on before that happens. A scenario that's far from unlikely, but which I would describe as "catastrophic, whether or not Nebula exists today", so its existence for now as a hedge against more likely bad scenarios is still worthwhile.

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                                        Man I want to move to Graphene so bad. I want all the google ripped out of my phone.

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                                        It was incredibly easy to do and a refurbished pixel 8 is way cheaper than a new phone.

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                                          GMaps -> car GPS

                                          What? No. OSM or literally anything else than a fucking car. Stars and sextant.

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                                          Because traffic data can't be obtained without some tracking...

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