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  • E essell@lemmy.world
    28 May 2025, 15:07

    My Picks...

    Deus Ex (So many games try to be this and fail)

    Cyberpunk (This one eventually measured up)

    Alpha Centauri (Innovation mixed with familiarity and setting)

    Fallout 2 (they're all good. Fallout 2 is special)

    Kotor (Star Wars story telling in a beautiful way)

    Baldur's Gate 2 and 3 (I'm stunned that 3 was a worthy successor)

    Homeworld (One of the World's truly beautiful games)

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    blackmist@feddit.uk
    wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:35 last edited by
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    Phantom Liberty is where Cyberpunk becomes a masterpiece.

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    • S scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      29 May 2025, 18:21

      Okay, now do it all on a bell curve.

      What's the most absolute medium game, to which all other games are compared to, and if worse, fail, or are better and pass?

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      coelacanth@feddit.nu
      wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:42 last edited by
      #217

      Oooooh I like that question. I feel like it would have to be some kind of Call of Duty, right? Some absolutely mediocre slop that still has enough mechanical satisfaction and mind-numbing explosion-and-cliché-filled story to keep you somewhat entertained, yet still remaining completely forgettable.

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        27 May 2025, 22:30
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        kinther@lemmy.world
        wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:43 last edited by
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        SOMA was great

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          2ugly2live@lemmy.world
          wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:47 last edited by
          #219

          I think Bioshock 1, Inscryption, Portal 1 & 2(I believe that 2 wouldn't be so loved if we didn't already love 1, I like to think of them as a set), Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil, Nier Automata, and Okami.

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          • L languageiscool@lemmy.world
            29 May 2025, 18:17

            Just started BG3. Fuckin mind-blowingly amazing.

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            ashiette@lemmy.world
            wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:10 last edited by
            #220

            If you really liked BG3 you might also like Neverwinter Nights 2 and DA:O. I heard there was a remaster of Neverwinter Nights 2 in the works, maybe give it a try when it comes out.

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            • C coelacanth@feddit.nu
              29 May 2025, 18:42

              Oooooh I like that question. I feel like it would have to be some kind of Call of Duty, right? Some absolutely mediocre slop that still has enough mechanical satisfaction and mind-numbing explosion-and-cliché-filled story to keep you somewhat entertained, yet still remaining completely forgettable.

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              scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:16 last edited by
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              The McDonald's of videogames.

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              • B bytemeister@lemmy.world
                29 May 2025, 06:23

                Metro 2033. Played it in the dark with good surround sound headphones on, and it's positively claustrophobic.

                Last Light is good too, but at little too optimistic IMHO. 2033 nails that endless pit of despair feeling, with just enough lucky breaks that you might make it through.

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                krauerking@lemy.lol
                wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:26 last edited by
                #222

                I would absolutely put that game up high on the lists as it is a perfect piece of atmospheric gameplay of misery incarnate.

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                • A alexaralvarado@infosec.pub
                  28 May 2025, 23:13

                  Supergiant games' holy trinity: Bastion, Transistor and Pyre.

                  Also, the only Borderland games 1 and 2; don't believe the lies there are no more true Borderlands games and no there most certainly is no movie.

                  There's also one other, but you'll need a crowbar or a gravity gun in hand for me to tell you about it.

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                  krauerking@lemy.lol
                  wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:28 last edited by
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                  You are wrong about borderlands as there is one more and it is pretty muc h perfect.

                  Tales from the Borderlands.
                  Shame they never made a sequel for it but the artistry, music and story are all so well crafted. Someone loved Borderlands making that.

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                    oplkill@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:31 last edited by
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                    There is no game: wrong dimension

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                      dantheclamman@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:53 last edited by dantheclamman@lemmy.world
                      #225

                      Immersive sims: Prey, Dishonored, Deus Ex

                      Story-driven: The Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Halo, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Uncharted, HL2, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Splinter Shock, The Walking Dead

                      Platformer: Braid, Ori and the Blind Forest, Mario 64, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Limbo

                      Action/roguelike: Bastion, Hades

                      RPG: Fallout: New Vegas, Mass Effect

                      Puzzle: Lumines, Puzzle Quest, World of Goo, You Must Build a Boat, Reigns, Threes, Meteos

                      Other: Desert Golfing

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                        krauerking@lemy.lol
                        wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:53 last edited by krauerking@lemy.lol
                        #226

                        So I think it's actually really important that the games that would be considered objective masterpieces would have to overcome any language barriers and be an experience approachable by anyone. You can learn the mechanics to enjoy the gameplay without words
                        So:

                        • Portal
                        • Journey
                        • Binding of Isaac
                        • Shadow of the Colossus
                        • Metro 2033 (which I have sat on and I believe even if it was entirely in Russian you would still get it )
                        • DOOM (original you don't need words you shoot)
                        • Super Mario Bros. 3
                        • Katamari Damacy

                        Then there are dialogue option stories that are fantastic stories that I could consider greats but shareable masterpieces is hard to say as they rely on you speaking the language both literally and then gameplay wise:

                        • Stanley Parable
                        • Outer Wilds
                        • Tales From the Borderlands
                        • To the Moon
                        • Talos Principle
                        • Golf Club Wasteland
                        • Dead Space
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                        • D dantheclamman@lemmy.world
                          29 May 2025, 19:53

                          Immersive sims: Prey, Dishonored, Deus Ex

                          Story-driven: The Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Halo, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Uncharted, HL2, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Splinter Shock, The Walking Dead

                          Platformer: Braid, Ori and the Blind Forest, Mario 64, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Limbo

                          Action/roguelike: Bastion, Hades

                          RPG: Fallout: New Vegas, Mass Effect

                          Puzzle: Lumines, Puzzle Quest, World of Goo, You Must Build a Boat, Reigns, Threes, Meteos

                          Other: Desert Golfing

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                          krauerking@lemy.lol
                          wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:55 last edited by
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                          I always forget how absolutely awesome Escape From Butcher Bay is until I'm reminded of its existence and its shockingly unfair to that game.

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                          • S scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                            29 May 2025, 18:21

                            Okay, now do it all on a bell curve.

                            What's the most absolute medium game, to which all other games are compared to, and if worse, fail, or are better and pass?

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                            shardikprime@lemmy.world
                            wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:57 last edited by
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                            Pong.

                            It's that or tetris

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                            • R rockerface@lemm.ee
                              28 May 2025, 01:50

                              Out of recent ones, Blue Prince

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                              krauerking@lemy.lol
                              wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:58 last edited by
                              #229

                              It's such a good puzzle box but I don't think I would call The Room, a masterpiece while it's still yet another great puzzle box game.

                              They are masterpieces in puzzles but maybe not games? I dunno why I don't consider them.

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                              • C coelacanth@feddit.nu
                                28 May 2025, 21:42

                                Disco Elysium is definitely closer to the visual novel spectrum of video games than it is to something like Tetris. But make no mistakes, its narrative and impact would be much lessened were it delivered in any other medium. It is absolutely a perfect example of how you use video games to make art.

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                                krauerking@lemy.lol
                                wrote on 29 May 2025, 20:02 last edited by
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                                How do you even begin to care about anything in that game when you are basically mashing buttons for hours and just listening to people complain about how shit life is?

                                I get its an art piece of living the existence you are thrown into but it feels like a confusing mess even gameplay wise for the starting hours that people that have finished it I feel miss how unfun it is at first.

                                I didn't even know why I was now stuck on the other side of a wall in a union dispute and I just couldn't be bothered to restart the game to try something else after how long it took to get dressed the first time.

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                                • K katana314@lemmy.world
                                  28 May 2025, 02:51

                                  This gets trickier with games, because an experienced game designer can, for instance, look at the UI design and graphics programming of a Ubisoft open world slopfest, and say those parts were masterfully done (even if the overall game isn't so fun). And, even the best of video games have bits of them that weren't as good.

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                                  krauerking@lemy.lol
                                  wrote on 29 May 2025, 20:04 last edited by
                                  #231

                                  Right... So what game gets the most of those bits the most right?

                                  That's how you start to separate out the best. Not that complex.

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                                  • K krauerking@lemy.lol
                                    29 May 2025, 19:55

                                    I always forget how absolutely awesome Escape From Butcher Bay is until I'm reminded of its existence and its shockingly unfair to that game.

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                                    dantheclamman@lemmy.world
                                    wrote on 29 May 2025, 20:05 last edited by
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                                    I'd kill for a new Riddick game!

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                                    • W weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world
                                      28 May 2025, 06:20

                                      The Spyro the dragon trilogy for me is just an absolute masterpiece.

                                      Final Fantasy VII, IX and X are three master pieces

                                      Metroid prime and fusion

                                      Fatal Frame trilogy on the PlayStation 2, Forbidden Siren, Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil 2 are amongst the best of the best

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                                      krauerking@lemy.lol
                                      wrote on 29 May 2025, 20:12 last edited by
                                      #233

                                      I do think the Spyro games are probably the absolute best of the collect-a-thon genre. Joyful and fun and with fun puzzles. I am worried I am too biased to say it though since I have 120%/100%/117% beat the games multiple multiple multiple times.

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                                        27 May 2025, 22:30
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                                        mechoman444@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 29 May 2025, 20:18 last edited by
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                                        What's left of edith finch.

                                        Such an amazing game. Absolute masterpiece.

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                                        • L ledoudou@jlai.lu
                                          29 May 2025, 15:44

                                          How come no one has mentioned “Life is strange” yet? Also, “A plague tale”.

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                                          mechoman444@lemmy.world
                                          wrote on 29 May 2025, 20:18 last edited by
                                          #235

                                          The intro to a plague tale... Jesus.

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