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What games are just objective masterpieces?

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    Hollow Knight is peak

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      My Picks...

      Deus Ex (So many games try to be this and fail)

      Cyberpunk (This one eventually measured up)

      Alpha Centauri (Innovation mixed with familiarity and setting)

      Fallout 2 (they're all good. Fallout 2 is special)

      Kotor (Star Wars story telling in a beautiful way)

      Baldur's Gate 2 and 3 (I'm stunned that 3 was a worthy successor)

      Homeworld (One of the World's truly beautiful games)

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      I remember trying the demo to Homeworld when I was a kid, it came with one of those old school PC GAMER demo CDs. I think I was too young to understand how to play it effectively, but still loved it because I found the ambience of the experience so memorizing while hyper-cozy. Would you say it she's well as something worth going back and playing now, and what of the sequel(s)?

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        Since I haven't seen it on here: FTL.

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          Slay the Spire

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          It's a niche masterpiece, but my 600 hours of play time agrees I am in that niche

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            Supergiant games' holy trinity: Bastion, Transistor and Pyre.

            Also, the only Borderland games 1 and 2; don't believe the lies there are no more true Borderlands games and no there most certainly is no movie.

            There's also one other, but you'll need a crowbar or a gravity gun in hand for me to tell you about it.

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            Bastion and Transistor, sure. Without a doubt, imoactful clever stories that were well delivered.

            Pyre always felt like a buggy mess tho. I tried multiple times to get into it but it's just not on the level of the first two.

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              Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
              Disco Elysium
              Alpha Centauri
              Super Marios Bros 3
              Bloodborne
              Ori 1 & 2
              Fallout 1 & 2
              Planescape: Torment
              The Outer Wilds

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                I see Outer Wilds here but not Nioh 2, so I'm posting about Nioh 2.

                Soulsian adventure with ninja gaiden blood, extremely high amount of endgame content, wild depth of character building, lots of avenues to increase your character's power with many "correct answers" to the question of "how should I make my dude stronger". Dropped a while before the most recent push for graphical fidelity with AI upscaling/antialiasing so it actually runs well on a large majority of steam hardware surveys machines.

                It's hard early on, but provides the player with tons of options when it comes to progressing through stages and bosses, flexible movesets for each class of weapon and access to potent tools like Gun and turning into an enemy that killed you a dozen times the first time you saw it briefly. The endgame goes beyond replaying through the game into dungeons made of fragments of the stages and some more unique maps (The Abyss). There's a hefty amount of individual bosses to learn, and incentive to do some of the more fun fights in the game multiple times - a lot of which do not require a run back through a stage to get to them. The game does itself a service by breaking up gameplay into chunks with a world map you launch missions from, some of which are just a singular straight up boss fight.

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                Nioh 2 is one of my favorite soulslikes, but falls short of masterpiece in my opinion due to the repeatedly recycled levels.

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                  Going to have to disagree, especially when it comes to storytelling

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                    #191

                    There are a lot of answers, mine will be drowned but... there it is. In no particular order :

                    • Final Fantasy X
                    • Clair Obscur : Expedition 33
                    • Baldur's Gate 3
                    • Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 (but you had to be there when it came out)
                    • Metal Gear Solid 3
                    • Shadow Hearts : Covenant
                    • Kya : Dark Lineage (the bugs were a feature)
                    • Horizon : Zero Dawn
                    • Megaman (any megaman will do)
                    • Crash Bandicoot Trilogy
                    • Spyro Trilogy
                    • Pokemon Yellow/Crystal/Emerald
                    • Pokemon Jade (yes that bootleg version)
                    • The Last of Us (pt. I & II)
                    • Astroneer
                    • GTA : Vice City
                    • Unreal Tournament 2004
                    • CS 1.6 played in the most dirty lan at your disposal
                    • Control
                    • Tetris
                    • Neverwinter Nights 2
                    • Dragon Age : Origins
                    • Quake III
                    • Bomberman
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                      Bloodborne.

                      It’s also easy to tell most lemmyzens are PC gamers since I hardly saw anyone mention it and it is OBJECTIVELY THE GREATEST GAME EVER MADE.

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                      While I am primarily a PC gamer, it really is the best thing From Software has ever done and an objective masterpiece. I sometimes waffle between whether Bloodborne or Sekiro is my favorite, but regardless of my own preference, I do think Bloodborne is the best.

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                      • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                        Just out of curiosity, listing the games mentioned here as of this writing by their date of release:

                        Release Date Game
                        1980 Pac-Man
                        1985 The Oregon Trail (assuming widely-played 1985 game)
                        1985 Tetris
                        1986 Kid Icarus
                        1988 Mega Man 2
                        1988 Super Mario Brothers 3
                        1988 The Guardian Legend
                        1989 Abadox: The Deadly Inner War
                        1989 Ironsword: Wizards & Warriors II
                        1989 Monster Party
                        1989 Populous
                        1989 Sweet Home
                        1990 Dr. Mario
                        1990 Final Fantasy III
                        1991 Battletoads (assuming original game)
                        1991 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
                        1992 Ecco the Dolphin
                        1992 Sonic the Hedgehog 2
                        1992 Super Mario Kart
                        1993 Dinopark Tycoon
                        1993 Doom
                        1993 Gauntlet IV
                        1993 Lufia & the Fortress of Doom (assuming first game)
                        1993 Mega Man X
                        1994 Donkey Kong Country
                        1994 Earthworm Jim
                        1994 Sonic & Knuckles
                        1994 Sonic the Hedgehog 3
                        1994 Super Metroid
                        1994 The Lion King
                        1995 Chrono Trigger
                        1997 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
                        1997 Diablo
                        1997 Final Fantasy VII
                        1997 Mega Man X4
                        1997 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
                        1997 Snowboard Kids
                        1998 Banjo-Kazooie
                        1998 Metal Gear Solid
                        1998 Sonic Adventure
                        1998 South Park
                        1998 StarCraft: Brood War
                        1999 Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings
                        1999 Heroes of Might and Magic III
                        1999 Planescape: Torment
                        1999 Quake III Arena
                        1999 RollerCoaster Tycoon
                        1999 Silent Hill
                        1999 Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
                        1999 Sven Co-op
                        1999 Unreal Tournament
                        1999 Worms Armageddon
                        2000 Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2
                        2000 Diablo II
                        2000 Resident Evil CODE: Veronica
                        2000 SimCity 3000 Unlimited
                        2000 Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
                        2001 Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies
                        2001 Final Fantasy X
                        2001 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
                        2001 Shenmue II
                        2002 The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
                        2003 Beyond Good & Evil
                        2003 Need for Speed: Underground
                        2003 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
                        2004 Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War
                        2004 Champions of Norrath
                        2004 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
                        2004 Gran Turismo 4
                        2004 Half Life 2
                        2004 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
                        2004 The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap
                        2005 Champions: Return to Arms
                        2005 Psychonauts
                        2005 Shadow of the Colossus
                        2006 Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War
                        2006 Ōkami
                        2007 BioShock
                        2007 Dark Souls
                        2007 Mass Effect
                        2007 Portal
                        2008 Clonk Rage
                        2008 Left 4 Dead
                        2008 Mirror's Edge
                        2008 Super Smash Bros. Brawl
                        2009 Dragon Age: Origins
                        2009 Forza Motorsport 3
                        2009 Killing Floor
                        2009 Left 4 Dead 2
                        2009 Plants vs. Zombies
                        2009 Steins;Gate
                        2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2
                        2010 Limbo
                        2010 Nier
                        2010 Planet Minigolf
                        2011 Bastion
                        2011 Portal 2
                        2011 Terraria
                        2011 The Binding of Isaac
                        2012 Hotline Miami
                        2012 The House in Fata Morgana
                        2012 Tokyo Jungle
                        2014 Forza Horizon 2
                        2014 LISA: The Painful
                        2015 Bloodborne
                        2015 Ori and the Blind Forest
                        2015 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
                        2015 Undertale
                        2016 Doom (2016)
                        2016 Kirby: Planet Robobot
                        2016 Stardew Valley
                        2016 The Witness
                        2016 Titanfall 2
                        2016 Tyranny
                        2017 Little Nightmares
                        2017 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (for Deluxe version)
                        2017 Nier: Automata
                        2017 Night in the Woods
                        2017 Super Mario Odyssey
                        2017 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
                        2018 Celeste
                        2018 Donut County
                        2018 Return of the Obra Dinn
                        2018 Rimworld
                        2018 Subnautica
                        2019 A Short Hike
                        2019 Disco Elysium
                        2019 Outer Wilds
                        2019 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
                        2019 Slay the Spire
                        2020 Cyberpunk 2077
                        2020 Factorio
                        2020 Hades
                        2021 Everhood: An Ineffable Tale of the Inexpressible Divine Moments of Truth
                        2021 Psychonauts 2
                        2022 Elden Ring
                        2022 Lil Gator Game
                        2023 Baldur's Gate 3
                        2023 Dave the Diver
                        2024 Balatro
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                        Missing Half-life (the first one).
                        That game was the first one to feature scripted scenes during player interaction and it was mind-blowing.
                        Plus, it had the most sophisticated story ever seen in an FPS before.

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                          I love STALKER with all my heart, and if we're talking atmosphere and vibes and even world building it is up there. But it does not really belong in the objective masterpiece category. Flawed masterpiece, maybe.

                          Also I think Call of Pripyat is the better STALKER game, but it might be controversial.

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                          Yeah, but it still popped into my mind sooner than other games, dunno why,

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                            Metro 2033. Played it in the dark with good surround sound headphones on, and it's positively claustrophobic.

                            Last Light is good too, but at little too optimistic IMHO. 2033 nails that endless pit of despair feeling, with just enough lucky breaks that you might make it through.

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                              I remember trying the demo to Homeworld when I was a kid, it came with one of those old school PC GAMER demo CDs. I think I was too young to understand how to play it effectively, but still loved it because I found the ambience of the experience so memorizing while hyper-cozy. Would you say it she's well as something worth going back and playing now, and what of the sequel(s)?

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                              I still repplay now and then, there's no game like it.

                              Sadly the sequals failed to capture the grace of the original, though I've not tried 3 yet.

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                                Prey, System Shock 2, Outer Wilds, and Undertale are fully-realized microcosms where the primary game is unfolding the complex origami of the setting. All of them absolutely beautiful to experience.

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                                Do you think Return of the Obra Dinn would belong alongside these or is that game too flawed by comparison? I ask because I myself am not sure.

                                Oh, actually Disco Elysium would fit right in here as well as a "fully-realized microcosms where the primary game is unfolding the complex origami of the setting".

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                                  Supergiant games' holy trinity: Bastion, Transistor and Pyre.

                                  Also, the only Borderland games 1 and 2; don't believe the lies there are no more true Borderlands games and no there most certainly is no movie.

                                  There's also one other, but you'll need a crowbar or a gravity gun in hand for me to tell you about it.

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                                  Feels odd to include Pyre over Hades.

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                                    Super Metroid

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                                      Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
                                      Disco Elysium
                                      Alpha Centauri
                                      Super Marios Bros 3
                                      Bloodborne
                                      Ori 1 & 2
                                      Fallout 1 & 2
                                      Planescape: Torment
                                      The Outer Wilds

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                                      Atari: Frogger
                                      NES: RBI Baseball / Tecmo Bowl.

                                      Genesis: Phantasy Star IV
                                      N64: Ocarina.
                                      PSX: FF IX.

                                      PSP: Lumines

                                      Saturn: Panzer Dragoon
                                      Dreamcast: Rez and Skies of Arcadia

                                      PS2 Vice City

                                      XBOX: PD Orta
                                      360: Child of Eden / Shadow Complex

                                      PC agree with all yours. Would add Syndicate, Witcher 3, & red alert
                                      DS: Dawn of Sorrow
                                      Neo Geo: Last Blade 2

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                                        Halo 1-3

                                        Forza horizon 2 & 3

                                        COD blacc ops 1-2

                                        MW 1 + 2

                                        Need for Speed Most Wanted/Underground/2/Carbon

                                        More I can’t think of rn

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                                          Do you think Return of the Obra Dinn would belong alongside these or is that game too flawed by comparison? I ask because I myself am not sure.

                                          Oh, actually Disco Elysium would fit right in here as well as a "fully-realized microcosms where the primary game is unfolding the complex origami of the setting".

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                                          Haven't actually played these two but from what I gather, they definitely fit the list!

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