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What games are just objective masterpieces?

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  • S saltsong@startrek.website
    28 May 2025, 00:03

    Not a sequel. Just because it's not Portal 1. The fact that it's second is not the problem. The problem is that the first one was flawless.

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    akasazh@feddit.nl
    wrote on 28 May 2025, 10:27 last edited by
    #119

    Too few promises of cake

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      27 May 2025, 22:30
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      jyrdano@lemmy.world
      wrote on 28 May 2025, 10:58 last edited by
      #120

      There hasnt been yet a game that could replicate the experience I ld had when I played Planescape: Torment

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      • K kino@lemmy.world
        27 May 2025, 22:55

        Witcher 3 for me.

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        theoneandonly@lemmy.world
        wrote on 28 May 2025, 11:13 last edited by
        #121

        I had to scroll so far to find anyone mentioning W3... Absolutely insane to me that this isn't much higher and more mentioned.

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        • T thefriar@lemm.ee
          28 May 2025, 03:04

          Has seriously no one mentioned The Last of Us? That’s crazy.

          I think the second should be included.

          As well as red dead redemption 2.

          The storytelling is just top tier. Better than literally almost all media made today.

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          asslesschaps@lemmynsfw.com
          wrote on 28 May 2025, 11:30 last edited by
          #122

          Rdr2 was the only game that I was actually emotionally tied to the characters. It was truly a masterpiece.

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          • C coelacanth@feddit.nu
            28 May 2025, 09:03

            We'll see how much is recency bias and how well it will stand the test of time, but I really think Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 will be on this list going forward. It's definitely one of the best games I've ever played, and I've played a lot of games. It's not perfect, but it's close enough in all the parts that actually matter.

            Otherwise there's your usual suspects:

            • Disco Elysium
            • Portal
            • Half-Life 2
            • Bioshock 1
            • Final Fantasy VI
            • Chrono Trigger
            • Zelda: Ocarina of Time
            • The Last of Us
            • Baldur's Gate 2
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            puia@lemm.ee
            wrote on 28 May 2025, 11:55 last edited by
            #123

            I still have to play it, but Clair Obscus seems like this year Baldur’s Gate 3, which is rare. A game that came out of no where and is ready to win goty

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              grimtuck@lemmy.world
              wrote on 28 May 2025, 12:02 last edited by
              #124

              For be it's still System Shock 2

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              • L landedgentry@lemmy.zip
                27 May 2025, 23:05

                ::: spoiler spoiler
                askldjfals;jflsad;
                :::

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                catzoomies@lemmy.world
                wrote on 28 May 2025, 12:02 last edited by
                #125

                +1 for Beyond Good & Evil.

                For those unfamiliar with this game, this was early 2000s Ubisoft when they used to be creative, celebrated, and original.

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                  catzoomies@lemmy.world
                  wrote on 28 May 2025, 12:06 last edited by catzoomies@lemmy.world
                  #126

                  I didn’t see these listed so I’m dropping some objective masterpieces here:

                  • Persona 5 Royal
                  • Golden Sun
                  • Golden Sun: The Lost Age
                  • Horizon Zero Dawn

                  Edit: Added HZD as I didn’t see it while scrolling through this post.

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                    x00z@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 28 May 2025, 12:09 last edited by
                    #127

                    Dungeon Keeper (with KeeperFX)

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                    • P puia@lemm.ee
                      28 May 2025, 11:55

                      I still have to play it, but Clair Obscus seems like this year Baldur’s Gate 3, which is rare. A game that came out of no where and is ready to win goty

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                      coelacanth@feddit.nu
                      wrote on 28 May 2025, 12:43 last edited by
                      #128

                      I know this is a hot take, but: BG3 is a good game. Clair Obscur is a work of art.

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                      • Q queenmidna@lemmy.ca
                        28 May 2025, 02:48

                        Going to have to disagree, especially when it comes to storytelling

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                        thequickben@lemm.ee
                        wrote on 28 May 2025, 12:57 last edited by
                        #129

                        I disagree with you. The story is amazingly written.
                        Dialogue, character motivations, their fuck ups, everything is fantastic.

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                        • J jordan117@lemmy.world
                          28 May 2025, 02:23

                          Katamari Damacy. It has a reputation for being silly Japanese nonsense, but the gameplay is brilliant, the graphics are timeless, the soundtrack is incredible, and it has some surprising thematic depth.

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                          weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world
                          wrote on 28 May 2025, 13:48 last edited by
                          #130

                          Na naaaaa na na na na na, na na, na naaaa Katamari Damacyyyyyyy

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                            technopagan@discuss.tchncs.de
                            wrote on 28 May 2025, 13:49 last edited by
                            #131

                            "Abzû". That's a hill I'm willing to die on. Got to me even more than Journey or Jusant.

                            Also, thought very differently, "Senua Hellblade" because it perfectly displayed a condition that I could never fit into words.

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                              zahille7@lemmy.world
                              wrote on 28 May 2025, 14:00 last edited by
                              #132

                              Half-Life 2, both Psychonauts games, the Arkham series

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                                acefuzzlord@lemm.ee
                                wrote on 28 May 2025, 14:26 last edited by acefuzzlord@lemm.ee
                                #133

                                • Sonic the Hedgehog ( Genesis/Mega Drive )

                                • Chuzzle Deluxe

                                • Borderlands

                                • Baba Is You

                                Those would be some picks I would say are objective masterpieces, but that's subjective, I guess.

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                                  27 May 2025, 22:30
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                                  elevator7009@lemmy.zip
                                  wrote on 28 May 2025, 14:33 last edited by
                                  #134

                                  Curious to hear what the criteria for "masterpiece" is, otherwise I think it is just peoples' subjective opinion of what makes a great game that they also think others might agree about being a great game. Genuinely curious, interested in discussion, not saying this to shut down any of the answers here.

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                                  • C coelacanth@feddit.nu
                                    28 May 2025, 12:43

                                    I know this is a hot take, but: BG3 is a good game. Clair Obscur is a work of art.

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                                    puia@lemm.ee
                                    wrote on 28 May 2025, 14:44 last edited by
                                    #135

                                    I must say you are really getting me hyped to play this game. Bgs3 was a masterpiece, and i also love games like Persona so i am really excited to try a French jrpg like Clair Obscur

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                                      keisatsu@infosec.pub
                                      wrote on 28 May 2025, 14:54 last edited by
                                      #136

                                      Albion by BlueByte

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                                      • E elevator7009@lemmy.zip
                                        28 May 2025, 14:33

                                        Curious to hear what the criteria for "masterpiece" is, otherwise I think it is just peoples' subjective opinion of what makes a great game that they also think others might agree about being a great game. Genuinely curious, interested in discussion, not saying this to shut down any of the answers here.

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                                        dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 28 May 2025, 14:57 last edited by
                                        #137

                                        Historically a masterpiece has been a (or the) work that demonstrates an artist is capable of utilizing their medium to its fullest extent, i.e. it has been mastered. Per ye olde Wiki:

                                        Historically, a "masterpiece" was a work of a very high standard produced by an apprentice to obtain full membership, as a "master", of a guild or academy in various areas of the visual arts and crafts.

                                        In that light, I'd say the best qualified would be games that completely utilized the capabilities of the platform they were designed for or, perhaps of interest to more people, expanded what everyone thought could be done with those systems. Games which were furthermore well polished and complete, and did not have much room for improvement taking into account the constraints they had to work with at the time. (For instance: No duh we could make Mario 64 run at a higher framerate and have better textures to look nicer on hardware now. That doesn't mean it wasn't arguably a masterpiece of its time, on the system it was on.) This doesn't just have to be technical stuff -- It could be the way the game used storytelling, its gameplay mechanics, or anything else.

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                                        • B bastingchemina@slrpnk.net
                                          28 May 2025, 07:56

                                          Journey

                                          There is not a single word in the game, barely any control but the game take you through an emotional story.

                                          It's multiplayer in a sense that you might meet another player, they can help you, you can help them or just continue on your path and despite not having any words it just fell like a genuine, pure connection with someone.

                                          And the music is amazing.

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                                          dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
                                          wrote on 28 May 2025, 15:02 last edited by
                                          #138

                                          Journey is indeed absolutely fantastic. It finally got a PC port a while ago after languishing on the PS3 for quite some years, and its hardware requirements are probably low enough in the modern era that practically anybody should be able to experience it.

                                          My only gripe is that online randos seem not to understand the meditation achievement, and get antsy when you try to entice them to sit there with you until the achievement pops. And since you can't type at them you can't communicate to them what's going on.

                                          I got the trophy on PS3 back in the day but I haven't successfully wrangled anybody into helping me get the Steam achievement for that yet...

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