What games are just objective masterpieces?
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Wizards got all up in Commander and killed my interest in it.
UB are getting all up in my standard and pioneer formats and killing my interest for them/Magic as a whole outside of "limited" precons.
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Not a sequel. Just because it's not Portal 1. The fact that it's second is not the problem. The problem is that the first one was flawless.
Too few promises of cake
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There hasnt been yet a game that could replicate the experience I ld had when I played Planescape: Torment
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Witcher 3 for me.
I had to scroll so far to find anyone mentioning W3... Absolutely insane to me that this isn't much higher and more mentioned.
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Has seriously no one mentioned The Last of Us? That’s crazy.
I think the second should be included.
As well as red dead redemption 2.
The storytelling is just top tier. Better than literally almost all media made today.
Rdr2 was the only game that I was actually emotionally tied to the characters. It was truly a masterpiece.
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We'll see how much is recency bias and how well it will stand the test of time, but I really think Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 will be on this list going forward. It's definitely one of the best games I've ever played, and I've played a lot of games. It's not perfect, but it's close enough in all the parts that actually matter.
Otherwise there's your usual suspects:
- Disco Elysium
- Portal
- Half-Life 2
- Bioshock 1
- Final Fantasy VI
- Chrono Trigger
- Zelda: Ocarina of Time
- The Last of Us
- Baldur's Gate 2
I still have to play it, but Clair Obscus seems like this year Baldur’s Gate 3, which is rare. A game that came out of no where and is ready to win goty
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For be it's still System Shock 2
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::: spoiler spoiler
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:::+1 for Beyond Good & Evil.
For those unfamiliar with this game, this was early 2000s Ubisoft when they used to be creative, celebrated, and original.
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I didn’t see these listed so I’m dropping some objective masterpieces here:
- Persona 5 Royal
- Golden Sun
- Golden Sun: The Lost Age
- Horizon Zero Dawn
Edit: Added HZD as I didn’t see it while scrolling through this post.
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Dungeon Keeper (with KeeperFX)
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I still have to play it, but Clair Obscus seems like this year Baldur’s Gate 3, which is rare. A game that came out of no where and is ready to win goty
I know this is a hot take, but: BG3 is a good game. Clair Obscur is a work of art.
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Going to have to disagree, especially when it comes to storytelling
I disagree with you. The story is amazingly written.
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Katamari Damacy. It has a reputation for being silly Japanese nonsense, but the gameplay is brilliant, the graphics are timeless, the soundtrack is incredible, and it has some surprising thematic depth.
Na naaaaa na na na na na, na na, na naaaa Katamari Damacyyyyyyy
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"Abzû". That's a hill I'm willing to die on. Got to me even more than Journey or Jusant.
Also, thought very differently, "Senua Hellblade" because it perfectly displayed a condition that I could never fit into words.
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Half-Life 2, both Psychonauts games, the Arkham series
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• Sonic the Hedgehog ( Genesis/Mega Drive )
• Chuzzle Deluxe
• Borderlands
• Baba Is You
Those would be some picks I would say are objective masterpieces, but that's subjective, I guess.
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Curious to hear what the criteria for "masterpiece" is, otherwise I think it is just peoples' subjective opinion of what makes a great game that they also think others might agree about being a great game. Genuinely curious, interested in discussion, not saying this to shut down any of the answers here.
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I know this is a hot take, but: BG3 is a good game. Clair Obscur is a work of art.
I must say you are really getting me hyped to play this game. Bgs3 was a masterpiece, and i also love games like Persona so i am really excited to try a French jrpg like Clair Obscur
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Albion by BlueByte
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Curious to hear what the criteria for "masterpiece" is, otherwise I think it is just peoples' subjective opinion of what makes a great game that they also think others might agree about being a great game. Genuinely curious, interested in discussion, not saying this to shut down any of the answers here.
Historically a masterpiece has been a (or the) work that demonstrates an artist is capable of utilizing their medium to its fullest extent, i.e. it has been mastered. Per ye olde Wiki:
Historically, a "masterpiece" was a work of a very high standard produced by an apprentice to obtain full membership, as a "master", of a guild or academy in various areas of the visual arts and crafts.
In that light, I'd say the best qualified would be games that completely utilized the capabilities of the platform they were designed for or, perhaps of interest to more people, expanded what everyone thought could be done with those systems. Games which were furthermore well polished and complete, and did not have much room for improvement taking into account the constraints they had to work with at the time. (For instance: No duh we could make Mario 64 run at a higher framerate and have better textures to look nicer on hardware now. That doesn't mean it wasn't arguably a masterpiece of its time, on the system it was on.) This doesn't just have to be technical stuff -- It could be the way the game used storytelling, its gameplay mechanics, or anything else.