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What games are just objective masterpieces?

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  • W weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world
    27 May 2025, 22:30
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    ms_lane@lemmy.world
    wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:25 last edited by
    #102

    Sid Meier's Pirates.

    Either version.

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    • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
      27 May 2025, 22:36

      None. There's no such thing as an objective master piece. Games are art which is, by definition, subjective.

      Edited to add, well this was way more controversial than I thought it would be.

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      ms_lane@lemmy.world
      wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:28 last edited by
      #103

      Games are not Art, they are Games.

      Videogames can also be art, but they are also games and 'games' (note: not 'videogames') are not art.

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      • M ms_lane@lemmy.world
        28 May 2025, 07:25

        Sid Meier's Pirates.

        Either version.

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        breecher@sh.itjust.works
        wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:28 last edited by
        #104

        I was going to say Sid Meier's Civilization, but both of them qualifies really.

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        • D davidgro@lemmy.world
          28 May 2025, 06:18

          Super Hexagon

          It's about as simple as a 'modern' game can be (I read there was even a port of it to Commodore 64.) but it's a finely tuned machine. When you lose - and you will, a lot - it feels like mostly your own fault and not the game's.

          The difficulty levels very accurately start at Hard for the easiest one. There are 6 total levels, the next 5 difficulties are Harder, Hardest, Hardester, Hardestest, and Hardestestest.

          With much time and luck I can beat the first level (unlocking the 4th). On a lost save I had unlocked the 5th level by completing the 2nd, and have only ever seen the 6th in videos from other people. I would have to beat the 3rd to see it myself, and that's not happening.

          The criteria to beat a level is "last for 60 seconds".

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          stormdelay@sh.itjust.works
          wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:31 last edited by
          #105

          It's really good, I played it again recently after not touching it for maybe 10 years, and finally beat the last difficulty in an attempt to prove to myself I'm still not old

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          • S semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
            27 May 2025, 23:08

            Video:
            Doom

            Tetris

            Chrono Trigger

            Table top:
            Chess

            Magic: the Gathering

            Everdell

            Azul

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            phunter@lemm.ee
            wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:31 last edited by
            #106

            Wizards got all up in Commander and killed my interest in it.

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              b0nk3rs@lemmy.world
              wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:44 last edited by
              #107

              Thomas Was Alone

              I've never felt so much for quadrilateral shapes.

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                rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
                wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:46 last edited by rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
                #108

                Assuming that "masterpiece" refers to the quality and impact the games had in their time (not how well they aged) some of my picks would be:

                • Baldur's Gate 2 + ToB
                • Star Wars: KotoR
                • Morrowind
                • Read Dead Redemption 2
                • The Witcher 3
                • The Last of Us 1+2
                • God of War
                • Shadow of the Colossus
                • The Legend of Zelda: BOTW
                • Mass Effect 1+2
                • Disco Elysium
                • Half Life 2
                • BioShock 1
                • Diablo 2
                • Fallout 2

                I don't know how objective this list is. Some picks are definitely subjective and fit more in a "flawed masterpiece" category of games that had a large impact on how I perceived games but that may not be so widely acclaimed as some others on this list.

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                • B b0nk3rs@lemmy.world
                  28 May 2025, 07:44

                  Thomas Was Alone

                  I've never felt so much for quadrilateral shapes.

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                  zerofk@lemm.ee
                  wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:50 last edited by
                  #109

                  That’s a great game indeed. The narration is on point.

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                    hollownaught@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:51 last edited by
                    #110

                    I was expecting to disagree with the list at some point, but I'm finding it increasingly hard to find a reason to

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                    • R rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
                      28 May 2025, 07:46

                      Assuming that "masterpiece" refers to the quality and impact the games had in their time (not how well they aged) some of my picks would be:

                      • Baldur's Gate 2 + ToB
                      • Star Wars: KotoR
                      • Morrowind
                      • Read Dead Redemption 2
                      • The Witcher 3
                      • The Last of Us 1+2
                      • God of War
                      • Shadow of the Colossus
                      • The Legend of Zelda: BOTW
                      • Mass Effect 1+2
                      • Disco Elysium
                      • Half Life 2
                      • BioShock 1
                      • Diablo 2
                      • Fallout 2

                      I don't know how objective this list is. Some picks are definitely subjective and fit more in a "flawed masterpiece" category of games that had a large impact on how I perceived games but that may not be so widely acclaimed as some others on this list.

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                      dremor@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:54 last edited by
                      #111

                      You could probably add E33 to that, even if it is still too early to know how much impact it will have.

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                      • F foobarrington@lemmy.world
                        28 May 2025, 06:35

                        Super. Hexagon.

                        It's hard to explain the relief I felt upon beating the last level. I can fairly easily survive for 300s in the first one, but I've never gotten close to beating the last one again.

                        The most important tip I can give: if you have a 60Hz monitor, turn off VSync. Makes a huge difference.

                        There's also a "spiritual successor" called Open Hexagon that's extendable by the community if you want more, though I haven't played it myself.

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                        davidgro@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:56 last edited by davidgro@lemmy.world
                        #112

                        I'll have to try that vsync thing when I get a new PC (laptop). I'm playing stuff on my phone or Android tablet lately

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                          bastingchemina@slrpnk.net
                          wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:56 last edited by
                          #113

                          Journey

                          There is not a single word in the game, barely any control but the game take you through an emotional story.

                          It's multiplayer in a sense that you might meet another player, they can help you, you can help them or just continue on your path and despite not having any words it just fell like a genuine, pure connection with someone.

                          And the music is amazing.

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                            phunter@lemm.ee
                            wrote on 28 May 2025, 08:14 last edited by
                            #114

                            Sekiro

                            Few games have such tight game design, story, lore, and characters blended so well into a single experience.

                            I don't think I even want or need a sequel.

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                            • A angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com
                              28 May 2025, 00:22

                              I'm going to take this as "games that I never see anyone question their quality." (I don't even like all these games myself)

                              • Sonic 3 & Knuckles

                              • Kirby Planet Robobot

                              • Doom 2016

                              • Street Fighter III: Third Strike

                              • Pac-Man

                              • Balatro

                              • Steins;Gate

                              • The House in Fata Morgana

                              • Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

                              • Gran Turismo 4

                              • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

                              • Mega Man X

                              • Mega Man X4

                              • Super Mario Bros. 3

                              • Hollow Knight

                              • Bloodborne

                              • Elden Ring

                              • Balder's Gate 3

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                              coelacanth@feddit.nu
                              wrote on 28 May 2025, 08:48 last edited by
                              #115

                              Baldur's Gate 3 is a good game and a worthwhile experience but you can absolutely make quite a lot of very valid critiques about it.

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                                coelacanth@feddit.nu
                                wrote on 28 May 2025, 09:03 last edited by
                                #116

                                We'll see how much is recency bias and how well it will stand the test of time, but I really think Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 will be on this list going forward. It's definitely one of the best games I've ever played, and I've played a lot of games. It's not perfect, but it's close enough in all the parts that actually matter.

                                Otherwise there's your usual suspects:

                                • Disco Elysium
                                • Portal
                                • Half-Life 2
                                • Bioshock 1
                                • Final Fantasy VI
                                • Chrono Trigger
                                • Zelda: Ocarina of Time
                                • The Last of Us
                                • Baldur's Gate 2
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                                  trijste@lemmy.ca
                                  wrote on 28 May 2025, 09:23 last edited by
                                  #117

                                  Braid
                                  Cave story

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                                  • P phunter@lemm.ee
                                    28 May 2025, 07:31

                                    Wizards got all up in Commander and killed my interest in it.

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                                    semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
                                    wrote on 28 May 2025, 09:57 last edited by
                                    #118

                                    UB are getting all up in my standard and pioneer formats and killing my interest for them/Magic as a whole outside of "limited" precons.

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                                    • S saltsong@startrek.website
                                      28 May 2025, 00:03

                                      Not a sequel. Just because it's not Portal 1. The fact that it's second is not the problem. The problem is that the first one was flawless.

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                                      akasazh@feddit.nl
                                      wrote on 28 May 2025, 10:27 last edited by
                                      #119

                                      Too few promises of cake

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                                        jyrdano@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 28 May 2025, 10:58 last edited by
                                        #120

                                        There hasnt been yet a game that could replicate the experience I ld had when I played Planescape: Torment

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                                        • K kino@lemmy.world
                                          27 May 2025, 22:55

                                          Witcher 3 for me.

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                                          theoneandonly@lemmy.world
                                          wrote on 28 May 2025, 11:13 last edited by
                                          #121

                                          I had to scroll so far to find anyone mentioning W3... Absolutely insane to me that this isn't much higher and more mentioned.

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