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  • W weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world
    27 May 2025, 22:30
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    kattiydid@slrpnk.net
    wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:15 last edited by
    #101

    Zelda Breath of the wild for me. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed Tears of the Kingdom but breath of the wild scratched a perfect itch for me. Especially master mode. Well over 1000 hours played.

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      ms_lane@lemmy.world
      wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:25 last edited by
      #102

      Sid Meier's Pirates.

      Either version.

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      • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
        27 May 2025, 22:36

        None. There's no such thing as an objective master piece. Games are art which is, by definition, subjective.

        Edited to add, well this was way more controversial than I thought it would be.

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        ms_lane@lemmy.world
        wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:28 last edited by
        #103

        Games are not Art, they are Games.

        Videogames can also be art, but they are also games and 'games' (note: not 'videogames') are not art.

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        • M ms_lane@lemmy.world
          28 May 2025, 07:25

          Sid Meier's Pirates.

          Either version.

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          breecher@sh.itjust.works
          wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:28 last edited by
          #104

          I was going to say Sid Meier's Civilization, but both of them qualifies really.

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          • D davidgro@lemmy.world
            28 May 2025, 06:18

            Super Hexagon

            It's about as simple as a 'modern' game can be (I read there was even a port of it to Commodore 64.) but it's a finely tuned machine. When you lose - and you will, a lot - it feels like mostly your own fault and not the game's.

            The difficulty levels very accurately start at Hard for the easiest one. There are 6 total levels, the next 5 difficulties are Harder, Hardest, Hardester, Hardestest, and Hardestestest.

            With much time and luck I can beat the first level (unlocking the 4th). On a lost save I had unlocked the 5th level by completing the 2nd, and have only ever seen the 6th in videos from other people. I would have to beat the 3rd to see it myself, and that's not happening.

            The criteria to beat a level is "last for 60 seconds".

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            stormdelay@sh.itjust.works
            wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:31 last edited by
            #105

            It's really good, I played it again recently after not touching it for maybe 10 years, and finally beat the last difficulty in an attempt to prove to myself I'm still not old

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            • S semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
              27 May 2025, 23:08

              Video:
              Doom

              Tetris

              Chrono Trigger

              Table top:
              Chess

              Magic: the Gathering

              Everdell

              Azul

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              phunter@lemm.ee
              wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:31 last edited by
              #106

              Wizards got all up in Commander and killed my interest in it.

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                b0nk3rs@lemmy.world
                wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:44 last edited by
                #107

                Thomas Was Alone

                I've never felt so much for quadrilateral shapes.

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                  rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
                  wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:46 last edited by rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
                  #108

                  Assuming that "masterpiece" refers to the quality and impact the games had in their time (not how well they aged) some of my picks would be:

                  • Baldur's Gate 2 + ToB
                  • Star Wars: KotoR
                  • Morrowind
                  • Read Dead Redemption 2
                  • The Witcher 3
                  • The Last of Us 1+2
                  • God of War
                  • Shadow of the Colossus
                  • The Legend of Zelda: BOTW
                  • Mass Effect 1+2
                  • Disco Elysium
                  • Half Life 2
                  • BioShock 1
                  • Diablo 2
                  • Fallout 2

                  I don't know how objective this list is. Some picks are definitely subjective and fit more in a "flawed masterpiece" category of games that had a large impact on how I perceived games but that may not be so widely acclaimed as some others on this list.

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                  • B b0nk3rs@lemmy.world
                    28 May 2025, 07:44

                    Thomas Was Alone

                    I've never felt so much for quadrilateral shapes.

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                    zerofk@lemm.ee
                    wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:50 last edited by
                    #109

                    That’s a great game indeed. The narration is on point.

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                      hollownaught@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:51 last edited by
                      #110

                      I was expecting to disagree with the list at some point, but I'm finding it increasingly hard to find a reason to

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                      • R rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
                        28 May 2025, 07:46

                        Assuming that "masterpiece" refers to the quality and impact the games had in their time (not how well they aged) some of my picks would be:

                        • Baldur's Gate 2 + ToB
                        • Star Wars: KotoR
                        • Morrowind
                        • Read Dead Redemption 2
                        • The Witcher 3
                        • The Last of Us 1+2
                        • God of War
                        • Shadow of the Colossus
                        • The Legend of Zelda: BOTW
                        • Mass Effect 1+2
                        • Disco Elysium
                        • Half Life 2
                        • BioShock 1
                        • Diablo 2
                        • Fallout 2

                        I don't know how objective this list is. Some picks are definitely subjective and fit more in a "flawed masterpiece" category of games that had a large impact on how I perceived games but that may not be so widely acclaimed as some others on this list.

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                        dremor@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:54 last edited by
                        #111

                        You could probably add E33 to that, even if it is still too early to know how much impact it will have.

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                        • F foobarrington@lemmy.world
                          28 May 2025, 06:35

                          Super. Hexagon.

                          It's hard to explain the relief I felt upon beating the last level. I can fairly easily survive for 300s in the first one, but I've never gotten close to beating the last one again.

                          The most important tip I can give: if you have a 60Hz monitor, turn off VSync. Makes a huge difference.

                          There's also a "spiritual successor" called Open Hexagon that's extendable by the community if you want more, though I haven't played it myself.

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                          davidgro@lemmy.world
                          wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:56 last edited by davidgro@lemmy.world
                          #112

                          I'll have to try that vsync thing when I get a new PC (laptop). I'm playing stuff on my phone or Android tablet lately

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                            bastingchemina@slrpnk.net
                            wrote on 28 May 2025, 07:56 last edited by
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                            Journey

                            There is not a single word in the game, barely any control but the game take you through an emotional story.

                            It's multiplayer in a sense that you might meet another player, they can help you, you can help them or just continue on your path and despite not having any words it just fell like a genuine, pure connection with someone.

                            And the music is amazing.

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                              phunter@lemm.ee
                              wrote on 28 May 2025, 08:14 last edited by
                              #114

                              Sekiro

                              Few games have such tight game design, story, lore, and characters blended so well into a single experience.

                              I don't think I even want or need a sequel.

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                              • A angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com
                                28 May 2025, 00:22

                                I'm going to take this as "games that I never see anyone question their quality." (I don't even like all these games myself)

                                • Sonic 3 & Knuckles

                                • Kirby Planet Robobot

                                • Doom 2016

                                • Street Fighter III: Third Strike

                                • Pac-Man

                                • Balatro

                                • Steins;Gate

                                • The House in Fata Morgana

                                • Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

                                • Gran Turismo 4

                                • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

                                • Mega Man X

                                • Mega Man X4

                                • Super Mario Bros. 3

                                • Hollow Knight

                                • Bloodborne

                                • Elden Ring

                                • Balder's Gate 3

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                                coelacanth@feddit.nu
                                wrote on 28 May 2025, 08:48 last edited by
                                #115

                                Baldur's Gate 3 is a good game and a worthwhile experience but you can absolutely make quite a lot of very valid critiques about it.

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                                  coelacanth@feddit.nu
                                  wrote on 28 May 2025, 09:03 last edited by
                                  #116

                                  We'll see how much is recency bias and how well it will stand the test of time, but I really think Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 will be on this list going forward. It's definitely one of the best games I've ever played, and I've played a lot of games. It's not perfect, but it's close enough in all the parts that actually matter.

                                  Otherwise there's your usual suspects:

                                  • Disco Elysium
                                  • Portal
                                  • Half-Life 2
                                  • Bioshock 1
                                  • Final Fantasy VI
                                  • Chrono Trigger
                                  • Zelda: Ocarina of Time
                                  • The Last of Us
                                  • Baldur's Gate 2
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                                    trijste@lemmy.ca
                                    wrote on 28 May 2025, 09:23 last edited by
                                    #117

                                    Braid
                                    Cave story

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                                    • P phunter@lemm.ee
                                      28 May 2025, 07:31

                                      Wizards got all up in Commander and killed my interest in it.

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                                      semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
                                      wrote on 28 May 2025, 09:57 last edited by
                                      #118

                                      UB are getting all up in my standard and pioneer formats and killing my interest for them/Magic as a whole outside of "limited" precons.

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                                      • saltsong@startrek.websiteS saltsong@startrek.website
                                        28 May 2025, 00:03

                                        Not a sequel. Just because it's not Portal 1. The fact that it's second is not the problem. The problem is that the first one was flawless.

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                                        akasazh@feddit.nl
                                        wrote on 28 May 2025, 10:27 last edited by
                                        #119

                                        Too few promises of cake

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                                          jyrdano@lemmy.world
                                          wrote on 28 May 2025, 10:58 last edited by
                                          #120

                                          There hasnt been yet a game that could replicate the experience I ld had when I played Planescape: Torment

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