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    By forcing us to drive a car?

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    Yes just walk two hours to work instead

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      Yes just walk two hours to work instead

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      The mileage of 6 miles (10km) isn't going kill you, I'm talking about the bigger picture of cheap cars fueling urban sprawl with little spatial income density and we haven't talked about subsidy inequality yet.

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        Fuck the poor

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        That's exactly my intention!

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          The mileage of 6 miles (10km) isn't going kill you, I'm talking about the bigger picture of cheap cars fueling urban sprawl with little spatial income density and we haven't talked about subsidy inequality yet.

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          10 km

          Haha yeah, 10km... 😭

          Also everything else is getting more expensive and poor people are already struggling to make ends meet. Not great making their life even harder

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            I remember those prices. I was there, when we went past a dollar and the gas station attendant was pissed saying, "we'll never see it under a dollar ever again", and he was right.

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            • massive_bereavement@fedia.ioM [email protected]

              At that price, unicorn blood and printer ink seem cheaper.

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              Well, not yet anywho

              https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-refill-ink-printer-Cartridges/dp/B004JZF9MG

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                This looks like Silent Hill or maybe a Resident Evil so Imma go out on a limb and guess that Japanese developers don't know how much gas actually costs here.

                Or, if this is indeed Silent Hill 2, they're using average prices of the Eastern US from back in the 70s/80s, where the game is set (according to the dev; shit looks more like the 90s to me). 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                  The mileage of 6 miles (10km) isn't going kill you, I'm talking about the bigger picture of cheap cars fueling urban sprawl with little spatial income density and we haven't talked about subsidy inequality yet.

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                  "Americans think 100 years is a long time and Europeans think 100 km is a long distance"

                  I'm fortunate to not be in this situation anymore but the commute for my last job before this one was around 40mi. That's 64km and a bit. Prior to that it was closer to 60mi or 96.5km, I was driving over an hour just to get to work. This is not uncommon for Americans, especially poor ones. If you can't afford to live in the city but still need a job so you can eat, situations like this are sometimes unavoidable.

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                    Yes just walk two hours to work instead

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                    Fuck man, it takes me 45 minutes to drive to my workplace maybe 30 miles away, and that's the closest town with more than a single grocery store and a couple gas stations. Also I live on top of a mountain because that's the only place I can afford to live and still be within driving distance of work. And of course no public transit at all out here, we have like 3 stop lights total. I literally couldn't walk to work and back, and also do things like working or sleeping. Just not enough hours in the day. Even on a bike 30 miles uphill at the end of the day, every day, would be brutal. Also no sidewalks, bike lanes, or even shoulders on most of the roads. Cliffs on both sides for most of it. You'd get creamed pretty quick. Infrastructure is so fucked here, partly because I live in a very mountainous area and also horrible NIMBYs everywhere. I'd love to not have to drive my car and buy gas but that's the only way I can feed myself.

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                      10 km

                      Haha yeah, 10km... 😭

                      Also everything else is getting more expensive and poor people are already struggling to make ends meet. Not great making their life even harder

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                      I assumed fast walking to be 5 km/h and you said 2 hours.

                      I'm totally with you, but the US mobility problem is fucked since the 1950s and now there's no easy solution. The bigger picture is that every investment into car-only infrastructure will hurt the working poor and precariat.

                      A short-term solution could be raising fossil fuel taxes and subsidising people who cannot afford any other mode of transportation with a part of that money.

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                      • skulblaka@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                        "Americans think 100 years is a long time and Europeans think 100 km is a long distance"

                        I'm fortunate to not be in this situation anymore but the commute for my last job before this one was around 40mi. That's 64km and a bit. Prior to that it was closer to 60mi or 96.5km, I was driving over an hour just to get to work. This is not uncommon for Americans, especially poor ones. If you can't afford to live in the city but still need a job so you can eat, situations like this are sometimes unavoidable.

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                        The low fuel prices built this environment.

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                          The low fuel prices built this environment.

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                          Sure. But we're in it now, and low fuel prices maintain the ability of the American working poor to survive. Changing this now would condemn millions of innocents to bankruptcy, homelessness and eventually death.

                          I don't like it either, believe me. I want walkable cities, and sensible zoning, and affordable housing. But we don't have that and there isn't a magic switch we can throw to just make it happen. We've painted ourselves into a corner about this.

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                            Fuck the poor

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                            If you think high gas prices are terrible for the poor, wait till you see how climate change will effect the poor

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                              This looks like Silent Hill or maybe a Resident Evil so Imma go out on a limb and guess that Japanese developers don't know how much gas actually costs here.

                              Or, if this is indeed Silent Hill 2, they're using average prices of the Eastern US from back in the 70s/80s, where the game is set (according to the dev; shit looks more like the 90s to me). 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                              Resident Evil takes place in 1998, and apparently the average cost was $1.06 per gallon at the time. Obviously, they just put the average price on the sign rather than deviating from it a little bit for realism, but it does look fairly accurate. Apparently it was $1.23 the year before and $1.17 the year after so it wasn’t always that nice.

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                                If you think high gas prices are terrible for the poor, wait till you see how climate change will effect the poor

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                                wait

                                Yeah exactly, one is fucking them over right now and one will add to the misery later.

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                                  wait

                                  Yeah exactly, one is fucking them over right now and one will add to the misery later.

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                                  No, climate change is fucking over the poor now. If it's not fucking you over, you're not as poor as you think you are.

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                                    That's about $6.50/gallon.

                                    In the Midwest it starts looking high at half that

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                                    The US has some of the cheapest gas in the world outside the OPEC countries (and I think Venezuela is cheap too). Japan right now is about $4.50/gal

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                                      No, climate change is fucking over the poor now. If it's not fucking you over, you're not as poor as you think you are.

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                                      "Well clearly you're not poor enough to be in a shit situation, that's why it's fine to make your life even harder"

                                      Lmao. Someone struggling to make ends meet working two jobs sure will appreciate this sentiment.

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                                        The US has some of the cheapest gas in the world outside the OPEC countries (and I think Venezuela is cheap too). Japan right now is about $4.50/gal

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                                        Yeah, I'm not sure about the mechanics, but I'm sure plenty of palms are greased to keep gas prices low. It's one of the things people like to blame on the president.

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                                          I remember those prices. I was there, when we went past a dollar and the gas station attendant was pissed saying, "we'll never see it under a dollar ever again", and he was right.

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                                          I remember when it went past $2 because I worked at a gas station at the time and all the patrons were pissed. This was before pay at the pump, so people would come in to the register and pay cash mostly. They would also bitch and moan. Yeah - sorry it isn’t my fault. I was making minimum wage and had my first car. I wasn’t too happy either.

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