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  • thefeaturecreature@lemmy.caT [email protected]

    Poor ergonomics is actually a large reason why I sold my Deck. It is quite heavy and clearly made for hands bigger than mine, which made holding it for more than 20 minutes quite uncomfortable. Also the joysticks are just awful, awful, awful awful awful. Id say a hall-effect stick mod is basically mandatory.

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    Yeah, I didn't like the shape/feel of the stock sticks either. I never really had any problems with sick drift or anything, but I also didn't actually own the system for very long either.

    To remedy this, I had actually bought some stick caps from skull & co (per recommendations from people on here actually) and they were quite excellent.

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    • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

      Steam Deck is great but keep in mind it's way bigger and heavier than the Switch Lite. If you move around a lot, it's not something you can just toss into a backpack.

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      I feel like the fragility is more of a concern than the weight. either console is sooo entertaining and nice to have on, like, a trainride or whatever that it more than pays for its weight burden in your pack; The risk of it getting its screen broken and needing to be fully replaced is a lot more daunting to me than the need to carry an additional 5 lb around. My steam deck came with a carrying case that I always really appreciate for just that reason.

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        The joysticks are way better than the Switch and comparable to regular controllers. I haven't had any issues with stick drift, and generally find it quite pleasant.

        What exactly were your issues with the joysticks?

        And yeah, being able to replace them a/ hall effect sticks is awesome, and I plan to do so if the sticks ever run into issues or I need to open it up for some reason. But I have no complaints, and in fact love playing with gryo aiming.

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        They were much too big for my thumbs (going off the theme of the Deck in general being made for hands clearly bigger than mine). Too tall, too wide on top, and while I never had to deal with any drift - the deadzones suck to play games with. I keep a gamepad at my desk for racing and flying games and I switched it to a hall-effect gamepad about a year ago and I've never looked back. Potentiometer-based joysticks just feel like garbage in comparison and I think are inexcusable to use in a highend gaming product these days. I ended up using the touchpads instead for many things.

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        • thefeaturecreature@lemmy.caT [email protected]

          They were much too big for my thumbs (going off the theme of the Deck in general being made for hands clearly bigger than mine). Too tall, too wide on top, and while I never had to deal with any drift - the deadzones suck to play games with. I keep a gamepad at my desk for racing and flying games and I switched it to a hall-effect gamepad about a year ago and I've never looked back. Potentiometer-based joysticks just feel like garbage in comparison and I think are inexcusable to use in a highend gaming product these days. I ended up using the touchpads instead for many things.

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          the deadzones suck

          You can tune those, though the tighter you make it, the more likely you'll run into drift issues. Replacing with hall-effect sticks is absolutely reasonable if you're playing a lot of racing and similar games that benefit from slight adjustments near the neutral point. I mostly play action games, so I slam my sticks against the edges most of the time.

          I totally understand size issues though. The Deck works a lot better with larger hands, so if yours aren't large enough, it could be uncomfortable.

          highend gaming product

          I don't consider the Steam Deck "high end" at all. There are handhelds with hall effect sticks and higher end graphics.

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            Looking for some advice. My Switch Lite is approaching the end of its life and given that a Switch 2 is basically the same price as an OLED Steamdeck I was thinking it might be a good time to jump back to PC gaming.

            I'm not much of a gamer. I got the Switch Lite because of portability and the ability to wake it up, play for ten minutes and then toss it back in my bag. My only beefs with the Switch ecosystem is that you can't download DLC - for Cities Skylines I have the bare game on Switch but a pile of DLC on my laptop for example.

            So - would going with a Steamdeck make sense? Any gotchas I should know about? Is there a better option?

            Thanks all!

            **edit: y'all rock. I'm ordering an OLED Steamdeck

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            I'm a collector of physical games, but with the last couple of models of PS5 lacking a disc drive and Nintendo's Screwball "Game Key Card" situation with Switch 2, the writing is on the wall when it comes to physical games media. I just recently got a Steam Deck LCD model (I don't need OLED) and couldn't be happier. I don't see myself getting a Switch 2 unless maybe it's years down the road, pre-owned and with at least three decent exclusives (one would have to be a "Zelda BOTW 3".) But no, Nintendo pissed away all their goodwill they built up as the common folk's console with the OG Switch

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              That's very surprising. Is your library chiefly old DOS games or something?

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              No, all of my MS-DOS games are through GOG.

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              • olicvb@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                If you already have a gaming pc you could get a phone controller grip and use the steam link app.

                I'm using a bracket for my xbox controller that way I keep the same comfort. Most phones have oled screens and a high ppi so it can look pretty nice.

                It opens steam in big picture mode all ready, and since it's on a pc you can run the games at max quality.

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                Latency is the big issue for me so i'd rather play the game directly on the device the screens hooked to.

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                  Nintendo is a terrible, anti-consumer company. Unless you simply can’t control yourself when it comes to their first party franchises, the Steam Deck is far and away the better choice.

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                  ALL the gaming console companies are, INCLUDING steam once gaben dies. Even currently you dont actually own your games on steam like you would a physical copy, you have to download a crack to play your steam games without steam.

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                    ALL the gaming console companies are, INCLUDING steam once gaben dies. Even currently you dont actually own your games on steam like you would a physical copy, you have to download a crack to play your steam games without steam.

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                    You are right. Unless the world starts to enshrine digital ownership laws very, very soon, things will get bad. They already are bad, but they could be, and will be, far worse in the not-to-distant future.

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                    • P [email protected]

                      Looking for some advice. My Switch Lite is approaching the end of its life and given that a Switch 2 is basically the same price as an OLED Steamdeck I was thinking it might be a good time to jump back to PC gaming.

                      I'm not much of a gamer. I got the Switch Lite because of portability and the ability to wake it up, play for ten minutes and then toss it back in my bag. My only beefs with the Switch ecosystem is that you can't download DLC - for Cities Skylines I have the bare game on Switch but a pile of DLC on my laptop for example.

                      So - would going with a Steamdeck make sense? Any gotchas I should know about? Is there a better option?

                      Thanks all!

                      **edit: y'all rock. I'm ordering an OLED Steamdeck

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                      Just to preface, I have bias as a person who got a steam deck day 1 and love it with no plans of getting a switch 2 .

                      That being said it’s definitely on a per-person basis. The big differences are how comfortable you are with small “tinkering” because things work on the steam deck but small adjustments aren’t uncommon and how okay you are with not having Nintendo games like Mario Kart.

                      If you’re cool with both of those then I’d say Steam Deck! Otherwise waiting for the switch 2 is probably the move!

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                        If you don't care about Nintendo games. Go for the deck 100%

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                        Future Nintendo games*

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                        • sorse@discuss.tchncs.deS [email protected]

                          Future Nintendo games*

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                          Shshshshshsh. We don't say that part out loud 👀

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                          • P [email protected]

                            Looking for some advice. My Switch Lite is approaching the end of its life and given that a Switch 2 is basically the same price as an OLED Steamdeck I was thinking it might be a good time to jump back to PC gaming.

                            I'm not much of a gamer. I got the Switch Lite because of portability and the ability to wake it up, play for ten minutes and then toss it back in my bag. My only beefs with the Switch ecosystem is that you can't download DLC - for Cities Skylines I have the bare game on Switch but a pile of DLC on my laptop for example.

                            So - would going with a Steamdeck make sense? Any gotchas I should know about? Is there a better option?

                            Thanks all!

                            **edit: y'all rock. I'm ordering an OLED Steamdeck

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                            Steamdeck is better than the Switch or Switch 2, from pretty much every objective measure.

                            You can even get a switch emulator in your steam deck.

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                            • P [email protected]

                              Looking for some advice. My Switch Lite is approaching the end of its life and given that a Switch 2 is basically the same price as an OLED Steamdeck I was thinking it might be a good time to jump back to PC gaming.

                              I'm not much of a gamer. I got the Switch Lite because of portability and the ability to wake it up, play for ten minutes and then toss it back in my bag. My only beefs with the Switch ecosystem is that you can't download DLC - for Cities Skylines I have the bare game on Switch but a pile of DLC on my laptop for example.

                              So - would going with a Steamdeck make sense? Any gotchas I should know about? Is there a better option?

                              Thanks all!

                              **edit: y'all rock. I'm ordering an OLED Steamdeck

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                              SD is a bit underpowered. Write down a list of games you want to play first and then check if there are SD compatible.

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                              • nokturne213@sopuli.xyzN [email protected]

                                Steam Deck will offer you the full steam library of games

                                *some exclusions apply.

                                Of my nearly 300 games in my library, 36 are fully steam deck certified. While another ~70 have some layer of compatibility. Leaving almost 1/3rd of my library not usable on the Steam Deck.

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                                Some games that say not supported actually work fine. I was disappointed to not be able to play some older games like Jedi Academy, but I installed it, set a community made controller mapping, and it works with zero issues.

                                Sure there are some games that don't work, but a lot more do than just the ones that are steam deck certified / playable.

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                                  ALL the gaming console companies are, INCLUDING steam once gaben dies. Even currently you dont actually own your games on steam like you would a physical copy, you have to download a crack to play your steam games without steam.

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                                  True, but Steam deck lets you boot into the Linux desktop environment of the os and you can do whatever you want with it. I have installed games and emulators outside of steam on mine pretty easily.

                                  You could probably even put a different Linux OS on it entirely if you wanted to.

                                  That control over the platform was the biggest selling point for me. More control even than the windows based handhelds.

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                                    even replace your laptop

                                    If you never bring your laptop with you and already have a second monitor, sure. Using the trackpads as a mouse kinda sucks though.

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                                    You could get one of those Bluetooth keyboard/ trackpad combos and a case with a kickstand for desktop use. Small screen but usable. I personally wouldn't replace a laptop with it, but if you didn't have a laptop it could be useful to buy one device that does handheld gaming and other stuff too instead of buying two devices

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      Looking for some advice. My Switch Lite is approaching the end of its life and given that a Switch 2 is basically the same price as an OLED Steamdeck I was thinking it might be a good time to jump back to PC gaming.

                                      I'm not much of a gamer. I got the Switch Lite because of portability and the ability to wake it up, play for ten minutes and then toss it back in my bag. My only beefs with the Switch ecosystem is that you can't download DLC - for Cities Skylines I have the bare game on Switch but a pile of DLC on my laptop for example.

                                      So - would going with a Steamdeck make sense? Any gotchas I should know about? Is there a better option?

                                      Thanks all!

                                      **edit: y'all rock. I'm ordering an OLED Steamdeck

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                                      I love the steam deck. I haven't used my switch for anything other than family Mario kart since I got it. I really like having access to PC games, especially at steam sale prices, which makes the deck a lot cheaper in the long run vs Nintendo games that never go on sale. Even Pokémon games that are years old are still full price when they're 2 or 3 releases behind in the series.

                                      The only thing I prefer about the switch is physical cartridges. The deck wins in every other category for me.

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                                      • neryk@sh.itjust.worksN [email protected]

                                        I'm going to go against the general consensus here and say you would probably be better served buying a Switch 2. The Steam Deck is awesome but it is bulkier, has less battery life, and is overall less suited for a "pick up, play 10mins and toss is back" usage.

                                        However if you are up for some occasional tinkering, the SD is far more versatile than the Switch and could even replace your laptop depending on your use-cases.

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                                        Battery life definitely depends on what you are playing. In BG3 I get around 2 ish hours. But I can play older games like Morrowind, or newer retro style games like Skald against the black priory (10/10, do recommend) for 6-8 hours, maybe more.

                                        You also have a lot of control to improve battery life like clock speed, frame rate limiting, etc.

                                        But yeah it has a huge screen and if you play newer games with good 3d graphics it drains fast. Switch doesn't really have those kinds of games so it's not a 1:1 comparison.

                                        EDIT: I also agree with your points on it being very bulky and not well suited to a 10 minute session. Launching games is slower on the deck and most PC games have more loading screens before gameplay.

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          Looking for some advice. My Switch Lite is approaching the end of its life and given that a Switch 2 is basically the same price as an OLED Steamdeck I was thinking it might be a good time to jump back to PC gaming.

                                          I'm not much of a gamer. I got the Switch Lite because of portability and the ability to wake it up, play for ten minutes and then toss it back in my bag. My only beefs with the Switch ecosystem is that you can't download DLC - for Cities Skylines I have the bare game on Switch but a pile of DLC on my laptop for example.

                                          So - would going with a Steamdeck make sense? Any gotchas I should know about? Is there a better option?

                                          Thanks all!

                                          **edit: y'all rock. I'm ordering an OLED Steamdeck

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                                          Don't give Nintendo any more money

                                          Steam Deck

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