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  3. "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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  • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
    21 May 2025, 23:25
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    feelzgoodman420@eviltoast.org
    wrote on 22 May 2025, 12:47 last edited by feelzgoodman420@eviltoast.org
    #133

    I'm mad about Ciri being the main character, however the reason I'm mad is not because of her character or her being a woman. What I'm upset about is that I thought this game would take place in a completely different time period or region. Like maybe during the first witchers? Maybe in the future? But no, CDPR is just force extending existing characters and a story that clearly ended. Zzzzz

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    • K killerscene@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      22 May 2025, 12:30

      it must be out there enough to be brought to his attention. if thats the case i feel like ive started to distance myself from being online enough to not notice this shit anymore.

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      flightyhobler@lemmy.world
      wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:24 last edited by
      #134

      Journalists can simply assume it's out there, or be even less serious and just bring it up to stir the pot.

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      • V vane@lemmy.world
        22 May 2025, 12:20

        That's the problem, they want to put Ciri in same gameplay but different story and say that's new Witcher. I would more likely play as Yenefer sorceress and slay monsters in a Witcher game than play as Ciri that somehow becomes a Witcher just to slay monsters with as sword. We already have character that slays monsters with a sword in Witcher game, he's called Geralt.

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        nuko147@lemm.ee
        wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:35 last edited by
        #135

        The game is called Witcher not Witch or wizard though. You could play a mage build in Witcher 3 and have your swords as cosmetics.

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        • F flightyhobler@lemmy.world
          22 May 2025, 12:26

          I don't believe there are people who seriously throw the "woke" argument out there. I think it's a sort of rage baiting by the journalists. Ffs there were 3 games with Geralt as lead. Enough is enough.

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          icastfist@programming.dev
          wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:37 last edited by
          #136

          Maybe not here in the fediverse, but there are dozens of youtube channels that are all about whining about "the woke" ruining the gaming industry, "explaining" how every spectacular failure we've seen in the last few years (Starfield, Concord) are because of DEI wokeness, etc.

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          • I icastfist@programming.dev
            22 May 2025, 13:37

            Maybe not here in the fediverse, but there are dozens of youtube channels that are all about whining about "the woke" ruining the gaming industry, "explaining" how every spectacular failure we've seen in the last few years (Starfield, Concord) are because of DEI wokeness, etc.

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            flightyhobler@lemmy.world
            wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:46 last edited by
            #137

            Yeah, I guess as long as there are people that want to hear it, there will be people willing to parrot it.

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            • I icastfist@programming.dev
              22 May 2025, 13:37

              Maybe not here in the fediverse, but there are dozens of youtube channels that are all about whining about "the woke" ruining the gaming industry, "explaining" how every spectacular failure we've seen in the last few years (Starfield, Concord) are because of DEI wokeness, etc.

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              rose@lemmy.zip
              wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:47 last edited by
              #138

              Searching for Dustborn on YouTube is the best way to get introduced to those channels.

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              • M markovs_gun@lemmy.world
                22 May 2025, 10:32

                I don't know if I have met anyone complaining about Ciri being the protagonist of Witcher 4. Even the most conservative people I know who are fans of the series are pumped about her being the main character because they love the story and it's the only logical way forward. The only complaints I have heard are that in universe she's kind of overpowered for a video game protagonist. I think people whining about this are fake fans or just agitators who don't even play these games.

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                rose@lemmy.zip
                wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:49 last edited by
                #139

                just agitators who don’t even play these games.

                Duh, however, they get millions of views across YouTube and X and hundreds of thousands of followers on Steam.

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                • F feelzgoodman420@eviltoast.org
                  22 May 2025, 12:47

                  I'm mad about Ciri being the main character, however the reason I'm mad is not because of her character or her being a woman. What I'm upset about is that I thought this game would take place in a completely different time period or region. Like maybe during the first witchers? Maybe in the future? But no, CDPR is just force extending existing characters and a story that clearly ended. Zzzzz

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                  dink@lemmy.world
                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:54 last edited by
                  #140

                  Exactly my opinion as well, last game ended perfectly for a new story.

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                  • G grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
                    22 May 2025, 11:41

                    Unpopular opinion:

                    Witcher 4 won’t be as good as Witcher 3 cause the third one was very good.

                    So no matter who they chose, it’s probably gonna be underwhelming.

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                    surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:56 last edited by
                    #141

                    This is why we'll never see elder scrolls 6

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                    • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
                      21 May 2025, 23:25
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                      gedhrel@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:59 last edited by
                      #142

                      Honestly I think W3 jumped the shark when it added a fifth faction for Gwent, and I know I'm not alone in this opinion.

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                      • T thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
                        22 May 2025, 07:50

                        anyone who has read the books was likely surprised that ciri wasn't the main character of any of the games when they first started coming out :::especially since geralt dies at the end of the books :::

                        ciri was more the mc than geralt for most of the books. she's the child of destiny. she's the young character that grows up as we follow their journey. she's the one that finds herself and shows major character development throughout the books. the only character development geralt goes through is accepting his bond with ciri.

                        the first two games never mentioning ciri was outright bizarre tbh. only even remotely possibly because geralt lost his memory. like, with where geralt as at by the end of the books the only thing you could possibly expect him to do on regaining his memory is frantically search for signs of his adopted daughter

                        to a longtime book reader my reaction to ciri being the protag of the next game was "FINALLY"

                        my only curiosity at this point is how much she'll be like book ciri. does she know magic? in the books ciri goes to sorceress school and then gets trained in primal magic by unicorns and immortal space elves. can you fuck a horse? that was one of the more... questionable scenes in the book.

                        tangent: sapkowski's politics occasionally bleed through in weird ways in the books. like three's a scene where a woman finds out she's pregnant mid way through a literal war that our band wades through on their journey to save the world. the party basically needs the woman to proceed. she does not want the child. i believe it was the product of rape. yet for some reason geralt and a literal fucking vampire convince her that abortion is wrong and she should keep it instead of drinking a potion about it. it was so randomly out of character for everyone involved. but hey, that's catholics for you i guess...
                        /tangent

                        i think they generally said that ciri lost her elder blood powers after the king of the hunt was killed right? otherwise I'm gonna be really curious how handle that as well. she should be sort of the world's greatest sorceress otherwise. ooh, i wonder if she'll make quips about cyberpunk and/or other worlds she's traveled to. like, she spent Decent bit of time in Arthurian legend. she shows up briefly in Victorian London.

                        also, what will the world at large look like? they can't do it like the last time where your previous save could alter the new game based on your decisions. you were simply able to do too much. they'd need to make like 3 entirely separate stories at the very least. like, who rules the north? are you the empress of nilfguard? is the church burning all the nonhumans at record pace? you can basically decide the entire fate of the northern realms and all of its people in multiple ways... unless it just takes place elsewhere. maybe we'll be in zerrikania this time or some shit. there are many distant lands that the games never take us. it would be much more doable that way. then you'd just have to change dialogue and maybe swap out a few characters.

                        aaaanyway... yeah, anyone mad about her being the mc is a dumbass that doesn't know shit about the story.

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                        cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 14:12 last edited by
                        #143

                        hold up… ciri fucked a horse?

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                        • D dink@lemmy.world
                          22 May 2025, 13:54

                          Exactly my opinion as well, last game ended perfectly for a new story.

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                          feelzgoodman420@eviltoast.org
                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 14:33 last edited by feelzgoodman420@eviltoast.org
                          #144

                          Yes. The games already retconned the ending of the books, which was pretty finalized. But whatever, the games were good. But now they're just force extending an already forced extended storyline rofl. I was hoping for completely new characters in a completely new settings/time period. Such a fucking shame.

                          They made such a big deal about the witcher 4 not being about Geralt and being it's own story, and now they're just extending Ciri's storyline. Pretty braindead decision in my opinion. It feels like they are just lazy and gave up on making a new character.

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                          • I icastfist@programming.dev
                            22 May 2025, 13:37

                            Maybe not here in the fediverse, but there are dozens of youtube channels that are all about whining about "the woke" ruining the gaming industry, "explaining" how every spectacular failure we've seen in the last few years (Starfield, Concord) are because of DEI wokeness, etc.

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                            tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                            wrote on 22 May 2025, 14:49 last edited by
                            #145

                            Yeah and they're all fucking losers, it really feels like the vast majority of people don't care about whatever these online people say 'woke' is. It's the same as complaining about "political correctness gone mad", affirmative action, etc, the same complaints they've had about social progress for decades. Nothing about these youtubers is new or worth dignifying with a response.

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                            • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
                              21 May 2025, 23:25
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                              courval@lemmy.world
                              wrote on 22 May 2025, 14:57 last edited by
                              #146

                              People are complaining of having to stare at a female's body while playing? They prefer looking at at male's butt? That's soooo gay!

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                              • C courval@lemmy.world
                                22 May 2025, 14:57

                                People are complaining of having to stare at a female's body while playing? They prefer looking at at male's butt? That's soooo gay!

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                                gladaed@feddit.org
                                wrote on 22 May 2025, 14:59 last edited by
                                #147

                                Can we stop with this stupid and homophobic argument?

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                                • G goodeye8@fedia.io
                                  22 May 2025, 08:51

                                  She's not just the main character towards the end, she is the main character of the story. We play Geralt, who is a side character in Ciri's story.

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                                  kinther@lemmy.world
                                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 15:06 last edited by
                                  #148

                                  I never really thought about it like that. Is that how the book series goes? I probably should read those as well

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                                  • G gladaed@feddit.org
                                    22 May 2025, 14:59

                                    Can we stop with this stupid and homophobic argument?

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                                    kassiopaea@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 15:09 last edited by
                                    #149

                                    Have you considered that the comment could, in fact, be a joke?

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                                    • G gladaed@feddit.org
                                      22 May 2025, 14:59

                                      Can we stop with this stupid and homophobic argument?

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                                      untorquer@lemmy.world
                                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 15:09 last edited by
                                      #150
                                      1. This seems sarcastic. I can tell by the punctuations i am seeing.
                                      2. It's abit gay tho
                                      C 1 Reply Last reply 22 May 2025, 16:37
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                                      • B brsrklf@jlai.lu
                                        22 May 2025, 09:37

                                        I am currently ingesting a cocktail of complex chemicals that are manipulating my sensory receptors, sending electrical impulses through my neural system and altering the balance of neurotransmitters in my brain.

                                        Anyway, I'm kinda enjoying that sandwich.

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                                        biofaust@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 15:11 last edited by
                                        #151

                                        Good one, although still sounding benign.
                                        Hormones and in general stuff related to flesh is when this shit hits MeatCanyon territory.

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                                        • F floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                          22 May 2025, 08:28

                                          Don't let the alt-right dictate what "woke" means

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                                          kassiopaea@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 15:17 last edited by
                                          #152

                                          I would love to not let the nazis dictate how the swastika is used, but their perversion of the original meaning has permanently altered how it's seen by the rest of the world. Claiming the moral high ground by trying to force something to mean what it no longer does is a pointless exercise.

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