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  3. "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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    Why complicate things ? Games are not books. I see Witcher game I expect Geralt. What is wrong with this thinking ? Do I need to think everytime I play Horizon ? No when I play Horizon I expect Aloy.

    There is nothing to do with woke. If you expect people to read books before they play a game there is something wrong with you not with people who want to play a game with their favourite character.

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    The Witcher game series is based on the book series.

    The post criticizes not the expectation of players that haven't read the books, but of the subset of people that think making Ciri the protagonist is a political message, when it's just staying true to its source.

    Your critique has nothing to do with this post.

    Expectations differ from person to person. You see the games as a separate thing. They are obviously not. But it's totally fair to want another witcher game with Gerald with his story continued. If the original creator of the story didn't write it that way, then CD Project Red would have to come up with their own story. Straying too far from source material can end badly - see Game of Thrones seasons 6-8.

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      They hate us cause they anus

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      E pluribus anus

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        That's why drag personally believes all RPGs with character customisation should have gender selection unless there's a very good reason why not. The one good exception drag has seen is Pentiment - in that game you're a mediaeval writer who hangs out with the monks at the Abbey. That story can't be authentic with a woman player character. But that's a very rare situation. Even games with named main characters can have gender select. Look at Prey and Mass Effect. It's an accessibility feature.

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        Been meaning to try pentiment, is it any good?

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          The Witcher game series is based on the book series.

          The post criticizes not the expectation of players that haven't read the books, but of the subset of people that think making Ciri the protagonist is a political message, when it's just staying true to its source.

          Your critique has nothing to do with this post.

          Expectations differ from person to person. You see the games as a separate thing. They are obviously not. But it's totally fair to want another witcher game with Gerald with his story continued. If the original creator of the story didn't write it that way, then CD Project Red would have to come up with their own story. Straying too far from source material can end badly - see Game of Thrones seasons 6-8.

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          Nah the author of article asume that all people that say that Ciri can't be a witcher it's because they claim it's woke and tries to turn those who disagree to say it's political. I clearly state it's not. I don't want Ciri in Witcher because I want to play Geralt. That's all. The author puts books to afirmate his claims that only people who read books are worthy to say something about Ciri being a Witcher protagonist and that everyone else says it's woke. No I disagree. Books are not Games.

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            Unpopular opinion:

            Witcher 4 won’t be as good as Witcher 3 cause the third one was very good.

            So no matter who they chose, it’s probably gonna be underwhelming.

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            also the formula is starting to feel old so it won't have as much lustre as long as they don't reinvent themselves

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              Geralt needs retirement. The ending of Blood and Wine expansion, tells you that loud and clear, and agree with that. It was a perfect ending for the Trilogy.

              Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now. I dont agree with the decision of Ciri becoming a Witcher (not making her the protagonist, but her taking the Mutagens), but i want to see how they explain that turn of events.

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              That's the problem, they want to put Ciri in same gameplay but different story and say that's new Witcher. I would more likely play as Yenefer sorceress and slay monsters in a Witcher game than play as Ciri that somehow becomes a Witcher just to slay monsters with as sword. We already have character that slays monsters with a sword in Witcher game, he's called Geralt.

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                Unpopular opinion:

                Witcher 4 won’t be as good as Witcher 3 cause the third one was very good.

                So no matter who they chose, it’s probably gonna be underwhelming.

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                It can be better

                If they fix the horrendous gameplay

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                  I don't believe there are people who seriously throw the "woke" argument out there. I think it's a sort of rage baiting by the journalists. Ffs there were 3 games with Geralt as lead. Enough is enough.

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                    I don't believe there are people who seriously throw the "woke" argument out there. I think it's a sort of rage baiting by the journalists. Ffs there were 3 games with Geralt as lead. Enough is enough.

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                    it must be out there enough to be brought to his attention. if thats the case i feel like ive started to distance myself from being online enough to not notice this shit anymore.

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                      Typical woke typist

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                      "Up yours, woke typists!" in a Kermit Peterson voice

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                        It can be better

                        If they fix the horrendous gameplay

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                        Fix two things:

                        1. The weird loot range issue, where if you’re not standing in juuuuust the right angle, you won’t be able to loot certain corpses or containers.
                        2. The fact that, outside of combat, controlling Geralt feels like driving a boat. Weird large turn radiuses, slow start and stop, etc… The devs did this to make his movement look more natural, but it feels like the game is constantly fighting against or trying to correct your inputs.

                        Combine those two things together, and you get a consistently frustrating experience outside of combat. Installing a ranged loot mod was one of the biggest quality of life upgrades. You walk near a corpse or container, and it automatically gets looted.

                        The combat can also get repetitive at times, and the difficulty scaling is weird too. But as long as those two things and still deliver a good story, I think players will ultimately walk away happy.

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                          I'm mad about Ciri being the main character, however the reason I'm mad is not because of her character or her being a woman. What I'm upset about is that I thought this game would take place in a completely different time period or region. Like maybe during the first witchers? Maybe in the future? But no, CDPR is just force extending existing characters and a story that clearly ended. Zzzzz

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                            it must be out there enough to be brought to his attention. if thats the case i feel like ive started to distance myself from being online enough to not notice this shit anymore.

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                            Journalists can simply assume it's out there, or be even less serious and just bring it up to stir the pot.

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                              That's the problem, they want to put Ciri in same gameplay but different story and say that's new Witcher. I would more likely play as Yenefer sorceress and slay monsters in a Witcher game than play as Ciri that somehow becomes a Witcher just to slay monsters with as sword. We already have character that slays monsters with a sword in Witcher game, he's called Geralt.

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                              The game is called Witcher not Witch or wizard though. You could play a mage build in Witcher 3 and have your swords as cosmetics.

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                                I don't believe there are people who seriously throw the "woke" argument out there. I think it's a sort of rage baiting by the journalists. Ffs there were 3 games with Geralt as lead. Enough is enough.

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                                Maybe not here in the fediverse, but there are dozens of youtube channels that are all about whining about "the woke" ruining the gaming industry, "explaining" how every spectacular failure we've seen in the last few years (Starfield, Concord) are because of DEI wokeness, etc.

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                                  Maybe not here in the fediverse, but there are dozens of youtube channels that are all about whining about "the woke" ruining the gaming industry, "explaining" how every spectacular failure we've seen in the last few years (Starfield, Concord) are because of DEI wokeness, etc.

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                                  Yeah, I guess as long as there are people that want to hear it, there will be people willing to parrot it.

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                                    Maybe not here in the fediverse, but there are dozens of youtube channels that are all about whining about "the woke" ruining the gaming industry, "explaining" how every spectacular failure we've seen in the last few years (Starfield, Concord) are because of DEI wokeness, etc.

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                                    Searching for Dustborn on YouTube is the best way to get introduced to those channels.

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                                      I don't know if I have met anyone complaining about Ciri being the protagonist of Witcher 4. Even the most conservative people I know who are fans of the series are pumped about her being the main character because they love the story and it's the only logical way forward. The only complaints I have heard are that in universe she's kind of overpowered for a video game protagonist. I think people whining about this are fake fans or just agitators who don't even play these games.

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                                      just agitators who don’t even play these games.

                                      Duh, however, they get millions of views across YouTube and X and hundreds of thousands of followers on Steam.

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                                        I'm mad about Ciri being the main character, however the reason I'm mad is not because of her character or her being a woman. What I'm upset about is that I thought this game would take place in a completely different time period or region. Like maybe during the first witchers? Maybe in the future? But no, CDPR is just force extending existing characters and a story that clearly ended. Zzzzz

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                                        Exactly my opinion as well, last game ended perfectly for a new story.

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                                          Unpopular opinion:

                                          Witcher 4 won’t be as good as Witcher 3 cause the third one was very good.

                                          So no matter who they chose, it’s probably gonna be underwhelming.

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                                          This is why we'll never see elder scrolls 6

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