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Mozilla Say Google Search Deal Vital to Firefox's Survival

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    warmaster@lemmy.world
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      slacktoid@lemmy.ml
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      Well goodbye mozilla it wasn't great knowing you. Hopefully you are able to fuck over the devs and golden parachute your c-suite bastards one last time.

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        5 May 2025, 21:58

        Well goodbye mozilla it wasn't great knowing you. Hopefully you are able to fuck over the devs and golden parachute your c-suite bastards one last time.

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        brax@sh.itjust.works
        wrote on 5 May 2025, 22:47 last edited by
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        Maybe, but what are the odds of a fork taking off? It was started under the codename "Phoenix" and went by "Firebird" for some time before becoming "Firefox".

        Maybe it's time for a fork to rise from the ashes and take off...

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          toastmeister@lemmy.ca
          wrote on 5 May 2025, 23:56 last edited by
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          Its interesting they don't have all the services Proton does. I'd pay them for a email and VPN combo.

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            5 May 2025, 22:47

            Maybe, but what are the odds of a fork taking off? It was started under the codename "Phoenix" and went by "Firebird" for some time before becoming "Firefox".

            Maybe it's time for a fork to rise from the ashes and take off...

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            douglasg14b@lemmy.world
            wrote on 6 May 2025, 07:27 last edited by
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            Any fork will die a slow and painful death of it can't get the necessary funding for project management and maintainer salaries.

            It will also dwindle, hard, towards irrelevancy.

            In world where the only viable browser is one owned and operated by Google.

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              6 May 2025, 07:27

              Any fork will die a slow and painful death of it can't get the necessary funding for project management and maintainer salaries.

              It will also dwindle, hard, towards irrelevancy.

              In world where the only viable browser is one owned and operated by Google.

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              skulblaka@sh.itjust.works
              wrote on 7 May 2025, 00:52 last edited by
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              This is going to probably sound like a stupid idea, but I mean this earnestly:

              Can we just make Internet 2? Just a new underlying protocol with less restrictive browser requirements, sure you might need to use Chrome to log in to your bank, but we could just host everything else on the fedinet. Just like back in the old days, webrings hosted on closet servers and rented racks.

              Google didn't build the internet so why do they have so much clout about how it's run? We can just start over again with self hosting. This time we even have all the knowledge we gained from already doing it the first time. I'm picturing an entire second layer of internet unlinked with the first one. Kind of like onion sites I guess, the more I think about this the more I'm realizing that the tor network is probably exactly what I'm talking about. Just that, but instead of hosting pirated content or weird porn or bitcoin assassins it's just a low stakes noncorporate internet protocol. You probably won't want to do a lot of transactions on it, but social media or personal websites or video hosting would probably be fine.

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                7 May 2025, 00:52

                This is going to probably sound like a stupid idea, but I mean this earnestly:

                Can we just make Internet 2? Just a new underlying protocol with less restrictive browser requirements, sure you might need to use Chrome to log in to your bank, but we could just host everything else on the fedinet. Just like back in the old days, webrings hosted on closet servers and rented racks.

                Google didn't build the internet so why do they have so much clout about how it's run? We can just start over again with self hosting. This time we even have all the knowledge we gained from already doing it the first time. I'm picturing an entire second layer of internet unlinked with the first one. Kind of like onion sites I guess, the more I think about this the more I'm realizing that the tor network is probably exactly what I'm talking about. Just that, but instead of hosting pirated content or weird porn or bitcoin assassins it's just a low stakes noncorporate internet protocol. You probably won't want to do a lot of transactions on it, but social media or personal websites or video hosting would probably be fine.

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                swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
                wrote on 25 May 2025, 10:35 last edited by
                #7

                the internet isn't the issue, the issue is people wanting to make everything a webapp. If people could be satisfied with simple HTML pages none of this would be an issue.

                all of this "internet 5.0" talk is completely pointless.

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