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A sovereign Microsoft 365 alternative: Nextcloud and IONOS join forces - Nextcloud

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  • engywuck@lemmy.zipE [email protected]

    It would be nice if they could offer alternatives for individuals with prices comparable to those of Hetzner Storage Share (which is based on NC). Somewhat, I feel every other NC hosting solution is way more expensive per GB.

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    The Hetzner Storage Share lacks a lot of features that Nextcloud IONOS have. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Hetzner has an office suite for Nextcloud?

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    • recursive_recursion@lemmy.caR [email protected]

      Oh shit

      This will undoubtedly have a major impact against Microsoft and even perhaps Google.

      AI-powered productivity features.

      Everything is pretty sweet except ^the AI productivity features. Hopefully the AI portions are optional opt-ins rather than it being preincluded opt-outs.

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      It’s all just part of their addons, so you choose yourself if you want AI. You can even choose to have local AI, if you don’t want to use an external AI, which I believe is ChatGPT.

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      • meldrik@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

        The Hetzner Storage Share lacks a lot of features that Nextcloud IONOS have. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Hetzner has an office suite for Nextcloud?

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        I didn't check it, tbh. Unluckily, I need almost perfect compatibility with MS Office for my job (shared documents). You're most likely right.

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        • W [email protected]

          Hey, I had been searching for a reasonably priced NC hosting for a while. I even considered a VPS from Hetzner but somehow didn't find this. Thanks for pointing it out.

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          Glad to have helped. The only issue I may have with it is that the web frontend feels a bit slow, but O mainly use it as a file sync service, so it doesn't bother me too much.

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          • meldrik@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

            The Hetzner Storage Share lacks a lot of features that Nextcloud IONOS have. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Hetzner has an office suite for Nextcloud?

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            #15

            I use storage share and I havent found it lacking in anything. You can install an onlyoffice app to get office. Some people complain about it for various reasons, and apparently it can be unstable though

            Another thing I expected not to work was the face recognition app but it worked perfectly

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            • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

              As organizations are looking to reclaim their digital sovereignty, IONOS and Nextcloud are building the fully featured office suite “Nextcloud Workspace”: a powerful Microsoft 365 alternative. As long-standing partners, we have the expertise to enable large companies and organizations with an all-round office suite as European answer to US products. Announced at the Nextcloud Summit earlier this month, this collaboration for digitally sovereign office software that meets the highest data protection requirements will launch in 2025.

              To meet the rigorous needs of public institutions and enterprises, Nextcloud Workspace will integrate a full range of collaboration tools, including file storage and sharing, document editing, email, calendaring, video conferencing, chat, and AI-powered productivity features. Of course, this offering will be fully GDPR compliant and securely hosted in Europe.

              Organizations can trust Nextcloud to deliver a fully integrated office and collaboration suite, thanks to the company’s experience in creating the world’s leading private cloud platform. IONOS, Europe’s largest cloud and hosting provider, is the ideal partner to ensure full GDPR compliance and protection from US legal exposure. Hosting will be managed exclusively in Germany, at IONOS’ extensive network of data centers.

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              Please tell me they're not writing it in php.

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                Please tell me they're not writing it in php.

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                Nah, it'll be CGI.

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                • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                  As organizations are looking to reclaim their digital sovereignty, IONOS and Nextcloud are building the fully featured office suite “Nextcloud Workspace”: a powerful Microsoft 365 alternative. As long-standing partners, we have the expertise to enable large companies and organizations with an all-round office suite as European answer to US products. Announced at the Nextcloud Summit earlier this month, this collaboration for digitally sovereign office software that meets the highest data protection requirements will launch in 2025.

                  To meet the rigorous needs of public institutions and enterprises, Nextcloud Workspace will integrate a full range of collaboration tools, including file storage and sharing, document editing, email, calendaring, video conferencing, chat, and AI-powered productivity features. Of course, this offering will be fully GDPR compliant and securely hosted in Europe.

                  Organizations can trust Nextcloud to deliver a fully integrated office and collaboration suite, thanks to the company’s experience in creating the world’s leading private cloud platform. IONOS, Europe’s largest cloud and hosting provider, is the ideal partner to ensure full GDPR compliance and protection from US legal exposure. Hosting will be managed exclusively in Germany, at IONOS’ extensive network of data centers.

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                  Kinda sounds awful honestly.

                  I do use nextcloud for my small team. It's the best of the selfhosted file sync platforms.

                  That said, it's obscenely over engineered.

                  Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

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                  • N [email protected]

                    Kinda sounds awful honestly.

                    I do use nextcloud for my small team. It's the best of the selfhosted file sync platforms.

                    That said, it's obscenely over engineered.

                    Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

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                    Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

                    Most O365 & exchange users? If you just want file sync, this isn't for you. If you want a collaborative (online) office suite that can also sync files, it is. It's meant to be able to replace the whole O365 stack, which includes Outlook.

                    You can also just not use that part, or any part you don't need. This is basic NC functionality that has been there for a very long time, so why shouldn't it be part of the package?

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                    • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                      As organizations are looking to reclaim their digital sovereignty, IONOS and Nextcloud are building the fully featured office suite “Nextcloud Workspace”: a powerful Microsoft 365 alternative. As long-standing partners, we have the expertise to enable large companies and organizations with an all-round office suite as European answer to US products. Announced at the Nextcloud Summit earlier this month, this collaboration for digitally sovereign office software that meets the highest data protection requirements will launch in 2025.

                      To meet the rigorous needs of public institutions and enterprises, Nextcloud Workspace will integrate a full range of collaboration tools, including file storage and sharing, document editing, email, calendaring, video conferencing, chat, and AI-powered productivity features. Of course, this offering will be fully GDPR compliant and securely hosted in Europe.

                      Organizations can trust Nextcloud to deliver a fully integrated office and collaboration suite, thanks to the company’s experience in creating the world’s leading private cloud platform. IONOS, Europe’s largest cloud and hosting provider, is the ideal partner to ensure full GDPR compliance and protection from US legal exposure. Hosting will be managed exclusively in Germany, at IONOS’ extensive network of data centers.

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                      I'm wondering what will happen to openXchange which ionos is using currently and is afaik also holding parts of. It does exactly the same.

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                      • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                        As organizations are looking to reclaim their digital sovereignty, IONOS and Nextcloud are building the fully featured office suite “Nextcloud Workspace”: a powerful Microsoft 365 alternative. As long-standing partners, we have the expertise to enable large companies and organizations with an all-round office suite as European answer to US products. Announced at the Nextcloud Summit earlier this month, this collaboration for digitally sovereign office software that meets the highest data protection requirements will launch in 2025.

                        To meet the rigorous needs of public institutions and enterprises, Nextcloud Workspace will integrate a full range of collaboration tools, including file storage and sharing, document editing, email, calendaring, video conferencing, chat, and AI-powered productivity features. Of course, this offering will be fully GDPR compliant and securely hosted in Europe.

                        Organizations can trust Nextcloud to deliver a fully integrated office and collaboration suite, thanks to the company’s experience in creating the world’s leading private cloud platform. IONOS, Europe’s largest cloud and hosting provider, is the ideal partner to ensure full GDPR compliance and protection from US legal exposure. Hosting will be managed exclusively in Germany, at IONOS’ extensive network of data centers.

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                        It's an alternative, but IONOS honestly fucking sucks as well, so I'm feeling pretty ambivalent about this.

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                          Please tell me they're not writing it in php.

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                          I might be wrong, but it sounds like hosted nextcloud, not a completely new platform.

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                          • N [email protected]

                            Kinda sounds awful honestly.

                            I do use nextcloud for my small team. It's the best of the selfhosted file sync platforms.

                            That said, it's obscenely over engineered.

                            Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

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                            you can delete the calendaring and contacts apps

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                              you can delete the calendaring and contacts apps

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                              No, you have to complain about them. It's the law.

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                              • C [email protected]

                                I might be wrong, but it sounds like hosted nextcloud, not a completely new platform.

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                                Nextcloud is so slow and brittle, I can’t imagine scaling

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                                • N [email protected]

                                  Kinda sounds awful honestly.

                                  I do use nextcloud for my small team. It's the best of the selfhosted file sync platforms.

                                  That said, it's obscenely over engineered.

                                  Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

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                                  Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

                                  "Who ever wanted standard features from office 365 from their office 365 competitor"

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

                                    "Who ever wanted standard features from office 365 from their office 365 competitor"

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                                    Nextcloud isn't a 365 competitor?

                                    It's filesync with contacts and calendar.

                                    Even once you build in documents and spreadsheets, 365 at least has separate applications for that - its not a single overblown behemoth.

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                                      No, you have to complain about them. It's the law.

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                                      Well if I uninstaller them what would i complain about?

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                                        Nextcloud isn't a 365 competitor?

                                        It's filesync with contacts and calendar.

                                        Even once you build in documents and spreadsheets, 365 at least has separate applications for that - its not a single overblown behemoth.

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                                        Nextcloud isn't a 365 competitor?

                                        You're in a thread about it being used as one, so that argument is worthless.

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                                        • C [email protected]

                                          Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

                                          Most O365 & exchange users? If you just want file sync, this isn't for you. If you want a collaborative (online) office suite that can also sync files, it is. It's meant to be able to replace the whole O365 stack, which includes Outlook.

                                          You can also just not use that part, or any part you don't need. This is basic NC functionality that has been there for a very long time, so why shouldn't it be part of the package?

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                                          Sure that's why I drive my 4wd anywhere i want to go - i don't want or need 4wd but I can just not use that functionality.

                                          Sorry what office suite is basic NC functionality that has been there for a long time?

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