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    My YouTube feed is filled with nothing but overwhelmingly positive reviews. All I did was watch the trailer a while back, then a review with gameplay from some influencer that got early access.

    I'm a huge doom fan dork, since the 90s. I'm old. But the trailer and gameplay had me thinking... meh.

    I'll wait for a sale. But I'm curious if anyone else feels the same. Anyone normal play it? Specifically fans of 2016. Are these influencers getting paid to hype the game?

    Anyone normal who bought day one, tell me I'm wrong and the hype is warranted. Just curious.

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      My YouTube feed is filled with nothing but overwhelmingly positive reviews. All I did was watch the trailer a while back, then a review with gameplay from some influencer that got early access.

      I'm a huge doom fan dork, since the 90s. I'm old. But the trailer and gameplay had me thinking... meh.

      I'll wait for a sale. But I'm curious if anyone else feels the same. Anyone normal play it? Specifically fans of 2016. Are these influencers getting paid to hype the game?

      Anyone normal who bought day one, tell me I'm wrong and the hype is warranted. Just curious.

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      Tbh it's more like quake 1 than Doom

      Which isn't a bad thing, but I think everyone would have been perfectly happy with just Doom: Eternal 2

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        Tbh it's more like quake 1 than Doom

        Which isn't a bad thing, but I think everyone would have been perfectly happy with just Doom: Eternal 2

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        Idk about that, I heard a fair number of folks who were less enthused with Eternal vs 2016. The general sentiment among those folks was that Eternal skewed too far into "combat puzzle" territory, where encounters felt like they had prescribed "solutions" that you needed to perform to succeed reliably. This iteration being less about resource management and high speed encounter flow seems to be a reaction to those critiques.

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          My YouTube feed is filled with nothing but overwhelmingly positive reviews. All I did was watch the trailer a while back, then a review with gameplay from some influencer that got early access.

          I'm a huge doom fan dork, since the 90s. I'm old. But the trailer and gameplay had me thinking... meh.

          I'll wait for a sale. But I'm curious if anyone else feels the same. Anyone normal play it? Specifically fans of 2016. Are these influencers getting paid to hype the game?

          Anyone normal who bought day one, tell me I'm wrong and the hype is warranted. Just curious.

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          Can't wait for that one modder who makes games look like shit to disable the raytracing.

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            My YouTube feed is filled with nothing but overwhelmingly positive reviews. All I did was watch the trailer a while back, then a review with gameplay from some influencer that got early access.

            I'm a huge doom fan dork, since the 90s. I'm old. But the trailer and gameplay had me thinking... meh.

            I'll wait for a sale. But I'm curious if anyone else feels the same. Anyone normal play it? Specifically fans of 2016. Are these influencers getting paid to hype the game?

            Anyone normal who bought day one, tell me I'm wrong and the hype is warranted. Just curious.

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            Exponential feedback loops on a road to nowhere on tracks coming to an end. We are running off of fumes and experiencing high rates of enshitification. The Devil's in the details and by God I love the Devil. Given that I own a lot of my own games, I have a wide collection that I could probably diddle with until I die. So I don't know, I feel like the golden age of gaming is over. I don't want to be a kermudgeon and hurt the feelings of kids, but it's over. I mean, maybe they can improve graphics, but who cares at that point? I mean, I'm not gonna subscribe to shit. I don't care what you dangle in front of me. I mean, I'm not in to prostitutes, and I don't want to smell your farts, so... Yeah. That's that. The ride is over. song, *It's Closing Time playing in the background...

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              My YouTube feed is filled with nothing but overwhelmingly positive reviews. All I did was watch the trailer a while back, then a review with gameplay from some influencer that got early access.

              I'm a huge doom fan dork, since the 90s. I'm old. But the trailer and gameplay had me thinking... meh.

              I'll wait for a sale. But I'm curious if anyone else feels the same. Anyone normal play it? Specifically fans of 2016. Are these influencers getting paid to hype the game?

              Anyone normal who bought day one, tell me I'm wrong and the hype is warranted. Just curious.

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              Are people getting paid to hype games

              Are you kidding? This has been a growing issue since the 00s. Even back when Total Biscuit was still alive (rip), he was fighting it with tooth and nail. Microsoft and some other companies have AGGRESSIVELY attacked consumers and now, it's entirely broken in almost every industry.

              Finding real reviews on things is INSANELY difficult to find, not only because influencers are all heavily biased and censored or even blacklisted when they aren't positive, but most normal people couldn't give a decent review if they tried. Hype is everywhere, and colors everything.

              TB called it years ago: the trick is to find a journalist that you know what they like, dislike, and are honest and with integrity, able to be brutal and fair, but have ethics and a strong sense of responsibility to the future of gaming. This requires a uniquely difficult and rare combination of intelligence, novel ideas, and sound judgement, along with consistency. And production, a refreshing articulation, and some brevity doesn't hurt.

              Find that source and support them, and help them grow. Get to know their tastes, and they should serve us all well.

              But, until that person who can unite gamers appears again, and holds those important and knowledgeable discussions... Influencers will be just that: influencers - not journalists. And be unreliable shills.

              Honestly I've thought about doing it more than once, but fear and risk of the wrath of sensitive gamers and corporate hr entities angry for me shitting on their games and decisions and suing me is a real thing. I could be a gaming journalist, one that gives my all and tries to serve the good of gamers and the future of society to the best of my ability. But I also seriously doubt anybody would want to listen to me.

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                My YouTube feed is filled with nothing but overwhelmingly positive reviews. All I did was watch the trailer a while back, then a review with gameplay from some influencer that got early access.

                I'm a huge doom fan dork, since the 90s. I'm old. But the trailer and gameplay had me thinking... meh.

                I'll wait for a sale. But I'm curious if anyone else feels the same. Anyone normal play it? Specifically fans of 2016. Are these influencers getting paid to hype the game?

                Anyone normal who bought day one, tell me I'm wrong and the hype is warranted. Just curious.

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                Looks like complete ass, deflect the green is the stupidest idea in gaming in a long time and those dragon segments are just an insult. Also, I'm happy Bethesda saved time and CPU cycles not baking lighting, but it got offloaded to gamers' computers for dubious benefit. I have eyes, I see how 2016 and Eternal look, please tell me how much of a graphic improvement the endless glitching fields of darkness are. I wouldn't buy a game for more than 15€ if it's top notch (patient gamer here), but I don't see myself playing this ever, it just evokes a sadness. The story of Eternal (the only game of the recent trilogy I actually liked) was a huge Marvel-caliber turd and I skipped every cutscene, so I'm not expecting anything in that department.

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                  Are people getting paid to hype games

                  Are you kidding? This has been a growing issue since the 00s. Even back when Total Biscuit was still alive (rip), he was fighting it with tooth and nail. Microsoft and some other companies have AGGRESSIVELY attacked consumers and now, it's entirely broken in almost every industry.

                  Finding real reviews on things is INSANELY difficult to find, not only because influencers are all heavily biased and censored or even blacklisted when they aren't positive, but most normal people couldn't give a decent review if they tried. Hype is everywhere, and colors everything.

                  TB called it years ago: the trick is to find a journalist that you know what they like, dislike, and are honest and with integrity, able to be brutal and fair, but have ethics and a strong sense of responsibility to the future of gaming. This requires a uniquely difficult and rare combination of intelligence, novel ideas, and sound judgement, along with consistency. And production, a refreshing articulation, and some brevity doesn't hurt.

                  Find that source and support them, and help them grow. Get to know their tastes, and they should serve us all well.

                  But, until that person who can unite gamers appears again, and holds those important and knowledgeable discussions... Influencers will be just that: influencers - not journalists. And be unreliable shills.

                  Honestly I've thought about doing it more than once, but fear and risk of the wrath of sensitive gamers and corporate hr entities angry for me shitting on their games and decisions and suing me is a real thing. I could be a gaming journalist, one that gives my all and tries to serve the good of gamers and the future of society to the best of my ability. But I also seriously doubt anybody would want to listen to me.

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                  But, until that person who can unite gamers appears again, and holds those important and knowledgeable discussions… Influencers will be just that: influencers - not journalists. And be unreliable shills.

                  Given past events, the more likely outcome is yet another gamergate, where actual criticism of the lack of honesty in games reporting gets drowned in a sea of misogyny, personal attacks and hate based on disinformation

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                    Idk about that, I heard a fair number of folks who were less enthused with Eternal vs 2016. The general sentiment among those folks was that Eternal skewed too far into "combat puzzle" territory, where encounters felt like they had prescribed "solutions" that you needed to perform to succeed reliably. This iteration being less about resource management and high speed encounter flow seems to be a reaction to those critiques.

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                    Doom 2016 wasn't exactly generous with ammo limits in the early game, but Eternal was a chore. Here's 20 enemies, 6 of them are cacodemons that will only die if you lob a shotgun grenade at their mouth. You have 12 shotgun and 50 plasma bullets, the latter enough to kill 1 caco.

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