I don’t know how you one-up the first game.

They could release a complete game that's playable, with the content they claimed would be in it, for starters.

I mean, honestly, the bar for this sequel to one up its predecessor is pretty low.

That's just a DLC then.

I've held multiple times before that it possibly would have been better off if it were a more focused, linear experience possibly akin to how the newer Deus Ex games worked. Within those you had the freedom to screw around in the area/mission you were in and given a wide latitude to complete things as you saw fit, but it definitely excised the wannabe GTA filler in the middle.

2077 had an excellent series of incredibly well-directed moments, both within the main story missions as well as several notable side missions, but the stuff in between made little sense especially given the story framework of V living on borrowed time with a ticking bomb in their head. But sure, let's save up and buy nine apartments, collect all the gold class weapons, stock your garage with all the cars, traipse all over down finding all of Delamain's rogue taxis, do a sidequest for this random chump, see a concert, check all these cyberpsychos off our list...

There is incredible detail in the world if -- but only if -- you stop to search for it. There are a lot of things most players will probably miss unless they're specifically pointed out, and while that's certainly neat it also means that the lack of discoverability means the time spent on many of those details ultimately turns out to be wasted. 2077 is thus a weird hybrid of a linear and open world game and as a result feels both too constrained and to unfocused at the same time. It's all to easy to get derailed, and alas to some extent you have to let yourself get derailed to accrue enough XP and equipment so you don't get your ass handed to you if you just try to stick to the main storyline, even though that storyline is written as if it's supposed to be a single linear narrative.

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the game. I just would have presented it much differently if I were in charge.

Sad that they will use Unreal garbage. Maybe in 2040 Unreal will run properly

If CDPR hadn't forced the team to crunch to get the game running at all on PlayStation, it probably would have been much more polished on release. A lot of the bugs you see in YouTube glitch compilations were due to this over-optimization (like NPCs vanishing or changing models when you looked away for a second).

I wonder how much better the game and its reception would have been if they'd dropped the last-gen console support during development. Those were the truly awful versions; the PC version was about even with Bethesda's launch day jank.

I also wish they'd properly managed expectations. The PC release was buggy and missing promised features, yes, but a lot of the hate came from it being a game with an open-world city with guns and driving but not mimicking GTA's systems.

I have the complete opposite view of 2077. I can't even finish it before I get bored, and I've tried no less than 5 times.

If CDPR hadn't forced the team to crunch to get the game running at all on PlayStation, it probably would have been much more polished on release. A lot of the bugs you see in YouTube glitch compilations were due to this over-optimization (like NPCs vanishing or changing models when you looked away for a second).

I wonder how much better the game and its reception would have been if they'd dropped the last-gen console support during development. Those were the truly awful versions; the PC version was about even with Bethesda's launch day jank.

I also wish they'd properly managed expectations. The PC release was buggy and missing promised features, yes, but a lot of the hate came from it being a game with an open-world city with guns and driving but not mimicking GTA's systems.

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I've held multiple times before that it possibly would have been better off if it were a more focused, linear experience possibly akin to how the newer Deus Ex games worked. Within those you had the freedom to screw around in the area/mission you were in and given a wide latitude to complete things as you saw fit, but it definitely excised the wannabe GTA filler in the middle.

2077 had an excellent series of incredibly well-directed moments, both within the main story missions as well as several notable side missions, but the stuff in between made little sense especially given the story framework of V living on borrowed time with a ticking bomb in their head. But sure, let's save up and buy nine apartments, collect all the gold class weapons, stock your garage with all the cars, traipse all over down finding all of Delamain's rogue taxis, do a sidequest for this random chump, see a concert, check all these cyberpsychos off our list...

There is incredible detail in the world if -- but only if -- you stop to search for it. There are a lot of things most players will probably miss unless they're specifically pointed out, and while that's certainly neat it also means that the lack of discoverability means the time spent on many of those details ultimately turns out to be wasted. 2077 is thus a weird hybrid of a linear and open world game and as a result feels both too constrained and to unfocused at the same time. It's all to easy to get derailed, and alas to some extent you have to let yourself get derailed to accrue enough XP and equipment so you don't get your ass handed to you if you just try to stick to the main storyline, even though that storyline is written as if it's supposed to be a single linear narrative.

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the game. I just would have presented it much differently if I were in charge.

I finished it once!

But then there was an update that broke my character and I can no longer shoot the Overwatch through walls

Probably update 2.00. They completely redid the game balance, about half of the damn RPG stat related mechanics, and reworked a decent chunk of the iconic weapon effects.

Notably, they removed the Overwatch sniper's wall piercing. Intentionally. There's mods to revert that.

If CDPR hadn't forced the team to crunch to get the game running at all on PlayStation, it probably would have been much more polished on release. A lot of the bugs you see in YouTube glitch compilations were due to this over-optimization (like NPCs vanishing or changing models when you looked away for a second).

I wonder how much better the game and its reception would have been if they'd dropped the last-gen console support during development. Those were the truly awful versions; the PC version was about even with Bethesda's launch day jank.

I also wish they'd properly managed expectations. The PC release was buggy and missing promised features, yes, but a lot of the hate came from it being a game with an open-world city with guns and driving but not mimicking GTA's systems.

Could you remind me what features people were upset about? I stayed away from most of the drama since CDPR has a long history of releasing a free major upgrade a year or two after release that fixes everything people complained about.

I remember the dev diaries being pretty open about dropping features during development, like the RC drone turning from a staple of your kit into something shown off once in a mission and immediately forgotten.

Don't listen to them

The first game is amazing and it also runs very well now

To me it felt completely sterile, lifeless and just set dressing. Although the stories where cool the immersion didn't work at all, turning it into a bore and ultimately disappointing. I played the patched version that supposedly had all this fixed.

Could you remind me what features people were upset about? I stayed away from most of the drama since CDPR has a long history of releasing a free major upgrade a year or two after release that fixes everything people complained about.

I remember the dev diaries being pretty open about dropping features during development, like the RC drone turning from a staple of your kit into something shown off once in a mission and immediately forgotten.

Just finished another playthrough yesterday. The new ending for siding with the NUSA is sad as hell, really made me feel feelings