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Cyberpunk 2 is now in preproduction, CD Projekt says

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    Bethesda's games are also celebrated as all time greats.

    Games are good, eventually, in spite of the mismanagement, not because of it. At one point they will run out of magic, just like Bethesda did. For said magic is just a ton of good writing and developers putting up with crunch.

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    Bethesda delivers just good enough for the modding community to pick up the rest and fix their shit. Unofficial patches, Oscuro’s Oblivion Overhaul, and all that.

    CDPR fixes their own shit.

    Both end up with solid games for patientgamers but damn you gotta be really patient.

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    • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com_ [email protected]

      The game is not only finished and complete, but Phantom Liberty was the best damn DLC I've ever played for any game in any genre, since the Shivering Isles for Oblivion.

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      What a blisteringly stupid thing to say, considering art is subjective.

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      • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com_ [email protected]

        The first one was finished, and is a fantastic game.

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        It was finished and buggy.. it's now finished, fixed and expanded.

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        • P [email protected]

          What a blisteringly stupid thing to say, considering art is subjective.

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          Phantom Liberty was the best damn DLC ---- I've ---- ever played

          Yes, dumbass, which is why I said it's the best for me, subjectively. Don't fucking reply if you're too stupid to read what I write.

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            It was finished and buggy.. it's now finished, fixed and expanded.

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            If it's good enough for Gibson, it's good enough for me.

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              Hopely, this game's launch is better then the first one.

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                Nice, only 12 more years to go.

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                  I don't care.

                  Shut up about the game.

                  Don't fucking say a thing about it until its like 6 months from launch.

                  Did they learn nothing from last time?!

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                  • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com_ [email protected]

                    The first one was finished, and is a fantastic game.

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                    CP2077 was not finished when it came out at the end of 2020.

                    This revisionist history of it being complete on release will get no traction here.

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                      It was finished and buggy.. it's now finished, fixed and expanded.

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                      Right now is where it should have been on release.

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                      • regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                        Yeah I'm just now playing it for the first time too. I'm really enjoying it and still have so much to do.

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                        I thought I saw somewhere that it was 150 hours for a full play through. I'm down to just a handful of cyberphycos and side gigs before the last mission. Almost 60 hours now. I've been trying to do literally everything but there's not much left.

                        When phantom liberty goes on sale I'll probably get it and do another full play through. I know there are multiple endings, tons of different builds, but its all still the same story that I know what's going to happen so there's only so much replay value after you know the story, kinda like skyrim.

                        This would 100% be the game I would choose to completely forget so I could experience it again.

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                        • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                          CP2077 was not finished when it came out at the end of 2020.

                          This revisionist history of it being complete on release will get no traction here.

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                          Literally nobody said that. Your username checks out.

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                          • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com_ [email protected]

                            The game is not only finished and complete, but Phantom Liberty was the best damn DLC I've ever played for any game in any genre, since the Shivering Isles for Oblivion.

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                            Damn I'm sorry. I didn't know people had such little exposure to good content

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                              I can't not read AV as ΔV. Damn you, KSP!

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                              My inner monologue even said “2 delta V… wait.”

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                              • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                I don't care.

                                Shut up about the game.

                                Don't fucking say a thing about it until its like 6 months from launch.

                                Did they learn nothing from last time?!

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                                Learn what? They've been relativly silent throughout the 12 years from announcement to release.

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                                  Damn I'm sorry. I didn't know people had such little exposure to good content

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                                  Art is subjective. You don’t get to speak for anyone but yourself. Half the world thinks what you like is shit, but go on about how you know what’s really good.

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                                    Every major Unreal Engine upgrade sucks for the first few years. Eventually it'll get optimized (the source is available and studios regularly contribute to it) or the documentation will start pointing out pitfalls and ways to increase performance. We'll just have to suffer through a deluge of chip-melting games until then.

                                    I wish there was more competition in the high-end game engine scene. Unreal tries to do all of the things all of the time and suffers for it, Unity requires tuning to look good and its management keeps shooting itself in the foot, Godot isn't there yet and has a bare-bones approach that requires devs to implement nearly everything from scratch, and the dozens of in-house engines that have been open-sourced lack the community or documentation quality to foster significant uptake.

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                                    I want more cel-shaded games. And more engines mean more unique experiences. I hate when every game starts to handle the same way.

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                                    • gerryflap@feddit.nlG [email protected]

                                      What? The launch was definitely botched, but after all the updates it's now a great game. Personally one of my favorites. Honestly I'm not sure if there are many studios who would do a better job than CDPR in making such a large scale Cyberpunk game.

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                                      It still has some rough edges, even after the major updates. I liked the Panam ending a lot, arguably one of my favorite game endings ever, but the police spawn and logic is still terrible compared to the likes of older GTA games, and the cars still feel gross to drive. Just Cause 2 had better vehicle handling, and that's a title from 2010.

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                                      • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com_ [email protected]

                                        Art is subjective. You don’t get to speak for anyone but yourself. Half the world thinks what you like is shit, but go on about how you know what’s really good.

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                                        I know greed when I see it. I know cut content when I see it. A good DLC doesn't include stuff that should've been in the game.

                                        CDPR did good with the witcher series years ago. But after cyberpunk they showed how disgusting they can be. They don't deserve money. Have fun and enjoy the game but don't defend it, there's no point

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                                          I know greed when I see it. I know cut content when I see it. A good DLC doesn't include stuff that should've been in the game.

                                          CDPR did good with the witcher series years ago. But after cyberpunk they showed how disgusting they can be. They don't deserve money. Have fun and enjoy the game but don't defend it, there's no point

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                                          I'll defend it if I want. Neither you nor anyone else gets to decide anything for me, so fuck out of here with that attitude. There's a reason you and the people who share your opinion are getting downvoted so much in this thread. That reason is people think your opinion is shit.

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