Cyberpunk 2 is now in preproduction, CD Projekt says
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At least everyone knows not to trust this dev anymore and won’t buy the game until it’s actually finished
Sad this likely means the first one never gets finished
wrote on 29 May 2025, 17:57 last edited bySpeak for yourself choom. I'll buy that scop on launch day. (I only preorder RGG games cuz they have never missed)
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Thats a fallacy. You're essentially saying because one company was able to fix their shit, the systemic problem isnt real. Thats not the case. Look at the broader picture. Companies are consolidating, building massive conglomerates and the market is hostile towards its customers.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:03 last edited by notmyoldredditname@lemmy.worldNo the systemic problem is real, but I don't think this one independent company has succumbed fully to it yet. If they had, they wouldn't have fixed it as well as they did.
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I think if it was really late stage capitalism they wouldn't have fixed it nearly as good as they did and just called it a day.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:09 last edited by umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 May 2025, 00:57.
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other location could be the moon, i think they intended for that to be DLC in 2077.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:11 last edited byThey did do a lot of teasing of the moon and the Crystal Palace space station, but there are also signs in-game about a high-speed rail line to Chicago opening in 2080. So the "Chicago but wrong" descriptor might be exactly what it says on the tin.
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It is greedy when they ask for more money for "extra" content for an unfinished game.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:21 last edited byWhat are you even talking about? They only shit you had to pay extra for was Phantom Liberty. Every other update or content release has been free.
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Yeach . It had rocky start but damm disregarding bugs the praises were more than deserved. Literally the best action RPG that exists.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:25 last edited byLiterally the best action RPG that exists.
Spoken like someone that has played about four or five video games in their entire life. It's not even an RPG. It's a shitty first person shooter with pointless skill trees tacked on. Even if you were to classify it as an action RPG, it doesn't crack the top 20.
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No the systemic problem is real, but I don't think this one independent company has succumbed fully to it yet. If they had, they wouldn't have fixed it as well as they did.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:32 last edited byThats what I'm saying too. The reason they released it in the state they did was market pressure and most likely bad decisions in an abusive capitalist system. Thats the reason why I said it initially.
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By the time Cyberpunk 2 comes out, I’ll have my own Keanu installed in my brain.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:46 last edited byBy the time it gets fixed & playable, the remainder of Keanu's body will also need a mind reinstall.
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What are you even talking about? They only shit you had to pay extra for was Phantom Liberty. Every other update or content release has been free.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:47 last edited byAnd it was greedy as hell because when that DLC was announced and released the game was still buggy and unfinished. The game still doesn't feel complete without the DLC is what I hear from everyone I know and multiple reviews
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The worst i hear is its games tend to be kinda unoptimized, but how much of that is the devs not being given enough time to optimize the game before release and how much is just the engine being bad idk. I used UE4 a lot and it was pretty smooth sailing for the most part, but maybe 5 got worse in some aspects.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:52 last edited byThanks for your input. I find UE4 very optimized on my low end machine. UE5 is a no go tho. Not it's fault in my case, I need to upgrade.
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If it wasn't as broken as it was, it might not have ended up as good as it did.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 18:58 last edited by umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 May 2025, 00:57.
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Yes, you did. The last step of the cycle is that everyone forgets that this already happened before. The witcher, then the witcher 2, then witcher 3, then cyberpunk. Each was such a mess at launch that the press at the time thought the games would flop. Each time devs, not suits, pulled the games out of PR hell after the fact.
People forget that the console port of the first witcher game nearly bankrupted them.
Just look at this thread people are talking like cyberpunk was always a perfect masterpiece since launch and negative comments are being buried in down votes.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 19:54 last edited byI played Witcher 3 a few months after it released, and it was nearly bug free, and certainly lived up to most expectations. It had a massive world, every inch of which was crammed with fleshed out interesting stories and characters with character. It was a breathtaking experience from the start, and if it had a few things to work out in the initial weeks, I can understand that.
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Not feature complete to pre-release promises/expectations
You don’t have to lie to justify your purchase, you can enjoy it for what it is
wrote on 29 May 2025, 22:13 last edited byThe game is finished. Maybe not finished to your expectations, but it is definitely finished, and is a damn fine action RPG. And Phantom Liberty is the best damn DLC for any game I've ever played since the Shivering Isles for Oblivion.
Calling others opinions lies just because you don't appreciate what they're saying is what we in the industry like to call a "bitch ass move".
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Literally the best action RPG that exists.
Spoken like someone that has played about four or five video games in their entire life. It's not even an RPG. It's a shitty first person shooter with pointless skill trees tacked on. Even if you were to classify it as an action RPG, it doesn't crack the top 20.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 22:16 last edited byWhat a blisteringly stupid thing to say, considering art is subjective.
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And it was greedy as hell because when that DLC was announced and released the game was still buggy and unfinished. The game still doesn't feel complete without the DLC is what I hear from everyone I know and multiple reviews
wrote on 29 May 2025, 22:18 last edited byThe game is not only finished and complete, but Phantom Liberty was the best damn DLC I've ever played for any game in any genre, since the Shivering Isles for Oblivion.
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Yeach . It had rocky start but damm disregarding bugs the praises were more than deserved. Literally the best action RPG that exists.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 22:22 last edited byIt's absolutely a fantastic game. I'm glad Gibson is giving his blessing for the sequel, I'm looking forward to it!
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The first one was finished, and is a fantastic game.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 22:24 last edited byIt was pretty damn solid. I didn't finish it, I had fun running around blasting gang members. Ducking through alley ways was the shit.
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The game is finished. Maybe not finished to your expectations, but it is definitely finished, and is a damn fine action RPG. And Phantom Liberty is the best damn DLC for any game I've ever played since the Shivering Isles for Oblivion.
Calling others opinions lies just because you don't appreciate what they're saying is what we in the industry like to call a "bitch ass move".
wrote on 29 May 2025, 22:28 last edited byReconsider what you responded to and what finished means
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Reconsider what you responded to and what finished means
wrote on 29 May 2025, 22:30 last edited byI don't need to reconsider shit, the game is finished, and is amazing.
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Bethesda's games are also celebrated as all time greats.
Games are good, eventually, in spite of the mismanagement, not because of it. At one point they will run out of magic, just like Bethesda did. For said magic is just a ton of good writing and developers putting up with crunch.
wrote on 29 May 2025, 22:44 last edited byBethesda delivers just good enough for the modding community to pick up the rest and fix their shit. Unofficial patches, Oscuro’s Oblivion Overhaul, and all that.
CDPR fixes their own shit.
Both end up with solid games for patientgamers but damn you gotta be really patient.