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Cyberpunk 2 is now in preproduction, CD Projekt says

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    And so the endless cycle of the borderline CD projekt games continues. Everything is hyped beyond realistic expectations a decade before launch, the masses whipped in anticipation. The game developers are kneecapped by suits making technical changes and demands they don't understand. The game is launched after sorely felt apologies for delays, as a messy distasteful buggy disaster. Then the devs get to finish the game during thn next five unars after sorely felt apologies for the buggy mess at launch. 5 more years later the game is hailed as a creative masterpiece, despite being held by bubblegum and paperclips under the hood and still being a subpar experience. Then CDPR announces a new game, and the cycle repeats.

    We didn't learn anything from "Bethesda's magic". What a mismanaged company.

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      I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Are you talking about the game at release, or after they patched in all the intended content?

      Outside of what I assume you mean by the "scripted gameplay" of the main story there are dozens upon dozens of side quests and weird little points of interest to discover (well over a hundred, easily). A lot of them help to elaborate on the setting in interesting ways. What exactly were you expecting that the game didn't deliver on?

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      Go play Deus Ex in the same genre, or some cyberpunk based CRPGs. Those games lots of mechanics that play into the game, DXMD's Augment system wipes it's ass with Cyberpunk's Chrome for one.

      Also it would help if they didn't rush the story so much, it was a product of crunch and it shows. You can fix the bugs but you can't fix fundamental problems with pacing

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      • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

        Which one was the most recent? I always mix up the last two. But yes, generally. The last one is still a buggy mess, sadly. Cyberpunk is not btw.

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        Buggy mess ? Deus Ex: Mankind Divided ?
        Really ‽

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          But I’m still one hour into the first one!

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          I think I got to the part where they show Johnny Sins doing mischief? I can never get past the fucking vision tutorials after getting the crawling toenail thumb or what ever that fucking bot is called. It's a slog.

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          • coelacanth@feddit.nuC [email protected]

            RDR2 is probably the best-feeling in terms of NPC behaviour in the open world.

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            Agreed, even then though, it's still got the npc feel. Gta6 is supposed to fix this, but I'm not holding my breath.

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            • mitm0@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

              Buggy mess ? Deus Ex: Mankind Divided ?
              Really ‽

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              Yeah, sadly. It has big crashing issues. feel free to check.

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                I don’t think that the NPC behaviour was the problem but the fact that they promised more. The NPCs didn’t feel significantly different to those in other games for me.

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                That's true, I think those who didn't follow the dev cycle and ate into the hype probably enjoyed the game a ton more than those of us who did and then got the absolute trash day one launch.

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                • mitm0@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                  Have you tried Deus Ex ?

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                  Yes, all of them. Wouldn't hurt to fit more Deus Ex DNA in the game either.

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                    And so the endless cycle of the borderline CD projekt games continues. Everything is hyped beyond realistic expectations a decade before launch, the masses whipped in anticipation. The game developers are kneecapped by suits making technical changes and demands they don't understand. The game is launched after sorely felt apologies for delays, as a messy distasteful buggy disaster. Then the devs get to finish the game during thn next five unars after sorely felt apologies for the buggy mess at launch. 5 more years later the game is hailed as a creative masterpiece, despite being held by bubblegum and paperclips under the hood and still being a subpar experience. Then CDPR announces a new game, and the cycle repeats.

                    We didn't learn anything from "Bethesda's magic". What a mismanaged company.

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                    Endless cycle? Wasn't everything you described just cyberpunk? Did I miss something about their previous title releases?

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                      Endless cycle? Wasn't everything you described just cyberpunk? Did I miss something about their previous title releases?

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                      Yes, you did. The last step of the cycle is that everyone forgets that this already happened before. The witcher, then the witcher 2, then witcher 3, then cyberpunk. Each was such a mess at launch that the press at the time thought the games would flop. Each time devs, not suits, pulled the games out of PR hell after the fact.

                      People forget that the console port of the first witcher game nearly bankrupted them.

                      Just look at this thread people are talking like cyberpunk was always a perfect masterpiece since launch and negative comments are being buried in down votes.

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                        Yes, you did. The last step of the cycle is that everyone forgets that this already happened before. The witcher, then the witcher 2, then witcher 3, then cyberpunk. Each was such a mess at launch that the press at the time thought the games would flop. Each time devs, not suits, pulled the games out of PR hell after the fact.

                        People forget that the console port of the first witcher game nearly bankrupted them.

                        Just look at this thread people are talking like cyberpunk was always a perfect masterpiece since launch and negative comments are being buried in down votes.

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                        The difference between CDPR and Bethesda is CDPR games always end up being all time greats though. That's why I don't get influenced by the hype, and keep faith in them as developers, as well as their move to unreal engine

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                          I hope that if this game is open world then the story at least matches it, unlike the first one.

                          There were just so many pointless distractions, and hardly any of them lead to anything interesting.

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                            I also had it on launch day, on PC, and it worked great for me as well. If anything, performance got worse after they patched the game.

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                            ::: spoiler spoiler
                            askldjfals;jflsad;
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                              That's true, I think those who didn't follow the dev cycle and ate into the hype probably enjoyed the game a ton more than those of us who did and then got the absolute trash day one launch.

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                              I don’t follow games before release so I wasn’t disappointed by missed promises and really enjoyed it.

                              The first that I heard of it was how buggy it was so I left it until people were saying the bugs were mostly fixed before getting it on sale.

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                                The difference between CDPR and Bethesda is CDPR games always end up being all time greats though. That's why I don't get influenced by the hype, and keep faith in them as developers, as well as their move to unreal engine

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                                Bethesda's games are also celebrated as all time greats.

                                Games are good, eventually, in spite of the mismanagement, not because of it. At one point they will run out of magic, just like Bethesda did. For said magic is just a ton of good writing and developers putting up with crunch.

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                                  Maybe about time for me so start the first.

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                                    You're gonna need a lot more than 2!

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                                    2km/s Δv can get you a mun roundtrip at least, once you're in orbit

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                                      Looking forward to playing this in 10 years

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                                        It has a LOT of content cut from the board game, and the world is still incredibly shallow outside scripted gameplay

                                        If you consider this anything more than a FPS game with cyberpunk aesthetics, I weep for your perception of quality

                                        Fucking Ubislop Watch Dogs 2 had a more interactive world, for crying out loud

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                                        If you consider this anything more than a FPS game with cyberpunk aesthetics, I weep for your perception of quality

                                        Way to show your opinion is less than worthless. If you're too stupid to admit CP2077 is an RPG: that's on you

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                                        • dabaldeagul@feddit.nlD [email protected]

                                          From the same website:

                                          Pondsmith revealed that he’s not as involved with the second game as he was with 2077, but said he’s keeping track of its progress. The game designer went on to claim that the sequel will feature Night City, as well as a second, unspecified location.

                                          https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/cyberpunk-2077s-sequel-features-a-second-city-that-feels-like-chicago-gone-wrong-reveals-creator/

                                          So it'll have a new city as well as Night City. Which is good - Night City has more stories to tell. All the TTRPGs were based in NC, as was Edgerunners. Leaving it behind completely would be wrong.

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                                          other location could be the moon, i think they intended for that to be DLC in 2077.

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