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Cyberpunk 2 is now in preproduction, CD Projekt says

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  • N notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world
    29 May 2025, 07:46

    I think if it was really late stage capitalism they wouldn't have fixed it nearly as good as they did and just called it a day.

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    haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com
    wrote on 29 May 2025, 08:29 last edited by
    #94

    Thats a fallacy. You're essentially saying because one company was able to fix their shit, the systemic problem isnt real. Thats not the case. Look at the broader picture. Companies are consolidating, building massive conglomerates and the market is hostile towards its customers.

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    • A abobla@lemm.ee
      28 May 2025, 19:12
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      crowairbrush@lemmy.world
      wrote on 29 May 2025, 08:37 last edited by
      #95

      Let's go, i need it haha

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      • E eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip
        29 May 2025, 08:17

        I heard UE5 is also pretty shit. Can you correct me.

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        pm_me_anime_thighs@lemmynsfw.com
        wrote on 29 May 2025, 08:37 last edited by
        #96

        The worst i hear is its games tend to be kinda unoptimized, but how much of that is the devs not being given enough time to optimize the game before release and how much is just the engine being bad idk. I used UE4 a lot and it was pretty smooth sailing for the most part, but maybe 5 got worse in some aspects.

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        • S supramario@lemmy.world
          28 May 2025, 23:31

          It's still like that though, the city just feels like it's just a bunch of npcs standing around. 3am? Same people just wandering around or sitting/leaning somewhere. I really don't know of a game that has any dynamic npc systems. It's all just scripted a to b and that's it.

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          nogooduser@lemmy.world
          wrote on 29 May 2025, 08:58 last edited by
          #97

          I don’t think that the NPC behaviour was the problem but the fact that they promised more. The NPCs didn’t feel significantly different to those in other games for me.

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          • V vivendi@programming.dev
            29 May 2025, 07:25

            It has a LOT of content cut from the board game, and the world is still incredibly shallow outside scripted gameplay

            If you consider this anything more than a FPS game with cyberpunk aesthetics, I weep for your perception of quality

            Fucking Ubislop Watch Dogs 2 had a more interactive world, for crying out loud

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            voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
            wrote on 29 May 2025, 10:06 last edited by
            #98

            I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Are you talking about the game at release, or after they patched in all the intended content?

            Outside of what I assume you mean by the "scripted gameplay" of the main story there are dozens upon dozens of side quests and weird little points of interest to discover (well over a hundred, easily). A lot of them help to elaborate on the setting in interesting ways. What exactly were you expecting that the game didn't deliver on?

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            • V vivendi@programming.dev
              29 May 2025, 07:25

              It has a LOT of content cut from the board game, and the world is still incredibly shallow outside scripted gameplay

              If you consider this anything more than a FPS game with cyberpunk aesthetics, I weep for your perception of quality

              Fucking Ubislop Watch Dogs 2 had a more interactive world, for crying out loud

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              gerryflap@feddit.nl
              wrote on 29 May 2025, 10:28 last edited by
              #99

              Okay but I don't know anything about the boardgame. I'm judging the game based on the game itself. It's a cool game set in a cool Cyberpunk world.

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              • A abobla@lemm.ee
                28 May 2025, 19:12
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                abettertomorrow@lemm.ee
                wrote on 29 May 2025, 10:37 last edited by
                #100

                But I’m still one hour into the first one!

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                • Q quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world
                  28 May 2025, 20:45

                  I can't not read AV as ΔV. Damn you, KSP!

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                  cocodapuf@lemmy.world
                  wrote on 29 May 2025, 10:42 last edited by
                  #101

                  You're gonna need a lot more than 2!

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                    dustydata@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 29 May 2025, 10:55 last edited by
                    #102

                    And so the endless cycle of the borderline CD projekt games continues. Everything is hyped beyond realistic expectations a decade before launch, the masses whipped in anticipation. The game developers are kneecapped by suits making technical changes and demands they don't understand. The game is launched after sorely felt apologies for delays, as a messy distasteful buggy disaster. Then the devs get to finish the game during thn next five unars after sorely felt apologies for the buggy mess at launch. 5 more years later the game is hailed as a creative masterpiece, despite being held by bubblegum and paperclips under the hood and still being a subpar experience. Then CDPR announces a new game, and the cycle repeats.

                    We didn't learn anything from "Bethesda's magic". What a mismanaged company.

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                    • V voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
                      29 May 2025, 10:06

                      I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Are you talking about the game at release, or after they patched in all the intended content?

                      Outside of what I assume you mean by the "scripted gameplay" of the main story there are dozens upon dozens of side quests and weird little points of interest to discover (well over a hundred, easily). A lot of them help to elaborate on the setting in interesting ways. What exactly were you expecting that the game didn't deliver on?

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                      vivendi@programming.dev
                      wrote on 29 May 2025, 11:02 last edited by
                      #103

                      Go play Deus Ex in the same genre, or some cyberpunk based CRPGs. Those games lots of mechanics that play into the game, DXMD's Augment system wipes it's ass with Cyberpunk's Chrome for one.

                      Also it would help if they didn't rush the story so much, it was a product of crunch and it shows. You can fix the bugs but you can't fix fundamental problems with pacing

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                      • H haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com
                        29 May 2025, 07:24

                        Which one was the most recent? I always mix up the last two. But yes, generally. The last one is still a buggy mess, sadly. Cyberpunk is not btw.

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                        mitm0@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 29 May 2025, 11:17 last edited by
                        #104

                        Buggy mess ? Deus Ex: Mankind Divided ?
                        Really ‽

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                        • A abettertomorrow@lemm.ee
                          29 May 2025, 10:37

                          But I’m still one hour into the first one!

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                          synopsistantilize@lemm.ee
                          wrote on 29 May 2025, 11:21 last edited by
                          #105

                          I think I got to the part where they show Johnny Sins doing mischief? I can never get past the fucking vision tutorials after getting the crawling toenail thumb or what ever that fucking bot is called. It's a slog.

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                          • C coelacanth@feddit.nu
                            29 May 2025, 08:17

                            RDR2 is probably the best-feeling in terms of NPC behaviour in the open world.

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                            supramario@lemmy.world
                            wrote on 29 May 2025, 11:24 last edited by
                            #106

                            Agreed, even then though, it's still got the npc feel. Gta6 is supposed to fix this, but I'm not holding my breath.

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                            • M mitm0@lemmy.world
                              29 May 2025, 11:17

                              Buggy mess ? Deus Ex: Mankind Divided ?
                              Really ‽

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                              haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com
                              wrote on 29 May 2025, 11:26 last edited by
                              #107

                              Yeah, sadly. It has big crashing issues. feel free to check.

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                              • N nogooduser@lemmy.world
                                29 May 2025, 08:58

                                I don’t think that the NPC behaviour was the problem but the fact that they promised more. The NPCs didn’t feel significantly different to those in other games for me.

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                                supramario@lemmy.world
                                wrote on 29 May 2025, 11:26 last edited by
                                #108

                                That's true, I think those who didn't follow the dev cycle and ate into the hype probably enjoyed the game a ton more than those of us who did and then got the absolute trash day one launch.

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                                • M mitm0@lemmy.world
                                  29 May 2025, 06:48

                                  Have you tried Deus Ex ?

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                                  ampersandrew@lemmy.world
                                  wrote on 29 May 2025, 11:26 last edited by
                                  #109

                                  Yes, all of them. Wouldn't hurt to fit more Deus Ex DNA in the game either.

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                                  • D dustydata@lemmy.world
                                    29 May 2025, 10:55

                                    And so the endless cycle of the borderline CD projekt games continues. Everything is hyped beyond realistic expectations a decade before launch, the masses whipped in anticipation. The game developers are kneecapped by suits making technical changes and demands they don't understand. The game is launched after sorely felt apologies for delays, as a messy distasteful buggy disaster. Then the devs get to finish the game during thn next five unars after sorely felt apologies for the buggy mess at launch. 5 more years later the game is hailed as a creative masterpiece, despite being held by bubblegum and paperclips under the hood and still being a subpar experience. Then CDPR announces a new game, and the cycle repeats.

                                    We didn't learn anything from "Bethesda's magic". What a mismanaged company.

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                                    presidentcamacho@lemm.ee
                                    wrote on 29 May 2025, 11:35 last edited by
                                    #110

                                    Endless cycle? Wasn't everything you described just cyberpunk? Did I miss something about their previous title releases?

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                                    • P presidentcamacho@lemm.ee
                                      29 May 2025, 11:35

                                      Endless cycle? Wasn't everything you described just cyberpunk? Did I miss something about their previous title releases?

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                                      dustydata@lemmy.world
                                      wrote on 29 May 2025, 11:45 last edited by
                                      #111

                                      Yes, you did. The last step of the cycle is that everyone forgets that this already happened before. The witcher, then the witcher 2, then witcher 3, then cyberpunk. Each was such a mess at launch that the press at the time thought the games would flop. Each time devs, not suits, pulled the games out of PR hell after the fact.

                                      People forget that the console port of the first witcher game nearly bankrupted them.

                                      Just look at this thread people are talking like cyberpunk was always a perfect masterpiece since launch and negative comments are being buried in down votes.

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                                      • D dustydata@lemmy.world
                                        29 May 2025, 11:45

                                        Yes, you did. The last step of the cycle is that everyone forgets that this already happened before. The witcher, then the witcher 2, then witcher 3, then cyberpunk. Each was such a mess at launch that the press at the time thought the games would flop. Each time devs, not suits, pulled the games out of PR hell after the fact.

                                        People forget that the console port of the first witcher game nearly bankrupted them.

                                        Just look at this thread people are talking like cyberpunk was always a perfect masterpiece since launch and negative comments are being buried in down votes.

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                                        raab@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 29 May 2025, 12:05 last edited by
                                        #112

                                        The difference between CDPR and Bethesda is CDPR games always end up being all time greats though. That's why I don't get influenced by the hype, and keep faith in them as developers, as well as their move to unreal engine

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                                          blackmist@feddit.uk
                                          wrote on 29 May 2025, 12:21 last edited by
                                          #113

                                          I hope that if this game is open world then the story at least matches it, unlike the first one.

                                          There were just so many pointless distractions, and hardly any of them lead to anything interesting.

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