Thats a fallacy. You're essentially saying because one company was able to fix their shit, the systemic problem isnt real. Thats not the case. Look at the broader picture. Companies are consolidating, building massive conglomerates and the market is hostile towards its customers.

Let's go, i need it haha

The worst i hear is its games tend to be kinda unoptimized, but how much of that is the devs not being given enough time to optimize the game before release and how much is just the engine being bad idk. I used UE4 a lot and it was pretty smooth sailing for the most part, but maybe 5 got worse in some aspects.

I don’t think that the NPC behaviour was the problem but the fact that they promised more. The NPCs didn’t feel significantly different to those in other games for me.

I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Are you talking about the game at release, or after they patched in all the intended content?

Outside of what I assume you mean by the "scripted gameplay" of the main story there are dozens upon dozens of side quests and weird little points of interest to discover (well over a hundred, easily). A lot of them help to elaborate on the setting in interesting ways. What exactly were you expecting that the game didn't deliver on?

Okay but I don't know anything about the boardgame. I'm judging the game based on the game itself. It's a cool game set in a cool Cyberpunk world.

But I’m still one hour into the first one!

You're gonna need a lot more than 2!

And so the endless cycle of the borderline CD projekt games continues. Everything is hyped beyond realistic expectations a decade before launch, the masses whipped in anticipation. The game developers are kneecapped by suits making technical changes and demands they don't understand. The game is launched after sorely felt apologies for delays, as a messy distasteful buggy disaster. Then the devs get to finish the game during thn next five unars after sorely felt apologies for the buggy mess at launch. 5 more years later the game is hailed as a creative masterpiece, despite being held by bubblegum and paperclips under the hood and still being a subpar experience. Then CDPR announces a new game, and the cycle repeats.

We didn't learn anything from "Bethesda's magic". What a mismanaged company.

Go play Deus Ex in the same genre, or some cyberpunk based CRPGs. Those games lots of mechanics that play into the game, DXMD's Augment system wipes it's ass with Cyberpunk's Chrome for one.

Also it would help if they didn't rush the story so much, it was a product of crunch and it shows. You can fix the bugs but you can't fix fundamental problems with pacing

Buggy mess ? Deus Ex: Mankind Divided ?
Really ‽

I think I got to the part where they show Johnny Sins doing mischief? I can never get past the fucking vision tutorials after getting the crawling toenail thumb or what ever that fucking bot is called. It's a slog.

Agreed, even then though, it's still got the npc feel. Gta6 is supposed to fix this, but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, sadly. It has big crashing issues. feel free to check.

That's true, I think those who didn't follow the dev cycle and ate into the hype probably enjoyed the game a ton more than those of us who did and then got the absolute trash day one launch.

Yes, all of them. Wouldn't hurt to fit more Deus Ex DNA in the game either.

Endless cycle? Wasn't everything you described just cyberpunk? Did I miss something about their previous title releases?

Yes, you did. The last step of the cycle is that everyone forgets that this already happened before. The witcher, then the witcher 2, then witcher 3, then cyberpunk. Each was such a mess at launch that the press at the time thought the games would flop. Each time devs, not suits, pulled the games out of PR hell after the fact.

People forget that the console port of the first witcher game nearly bankrupted them.

Just look at this thread people are talking like cyberpunk was always a perfect masterpiece since launch and negative comments are being buried in down votes.

The difference between CDPR and Bethesda is CDPR games always end up being all time greats though. That's why I don't get influenced by the hype, and keep faith in them as developers, as well as their move to unreal engine

I hope that if this game is open world then the story at least matches it, unlike the first one.

There were just so many pointless distractions, and hardly any of them lead to anything interesting.