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My journey towards more European, open source, privacy-oriented, and decentralized alternatives

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  • C ceiron@lemm.ee
    26 May 2025, 21:48

    Librewolf seems to be a bit too extreme for my taste, not to mention I’d like to have the same browser on desktop and mobile. I also feel like Mozilla is a company worth supporting, despite the recent mess ups.

    Very curious about piefed - looking forward to a mobile app in the near future hopefully!

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    jaygray91@piefed.social
    wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:31 last edited by
    #13

    Very curious about piefed - looking forward to a mobile app in the near future hopefully!

    I really like it on desktop. On default front end, it clicked the easiest. Though for lemmy I still prefer Tesseract, but all the other inherent features that's not on lemmy, especially comments consolidation for same link, just trounces lemmy for me.

    The android app Interstellar is testing piefed support, although currently only allows preferred.social instance IIRC. I registered on the flagship piefed.social instance, and I'm a bit too lived in on it to change instance. Maybe it's better to see if I can migrate my account.

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    • C ceiron@lemm.ee
      26 May 2025, 21:21

      Over the past few months, I embarked on a rewarding digital journey to move away from US big tech and towards more European [EU], open source [FOSS], privacy-oriented [P], and decentralized [D] alternatives.

      I'm sharing my experience here in case it can be useful to others, as well as to gather any additional thoughts or suggestions:

      • Desktop OS: Microsoft Windows 11 --> OpenSUSE Tumbleweed + KDE [EU][FOSS]
      • Web browser: Google Chrome --> Brave --> Vivaldi --> Mozilla Firefox + Strict privacy settings, uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Conset-O-Matic [FOSS][P]
      • Email: Gmail --> Infomaniak Mail [EU][FOSS]
      • Calendar: Google Calendar --> Infomaniak Calendar [EU][FOSS] + OneCalendar [EU]
      • Files: Dropbox --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
      • Photos: Google Photos --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
      • Notes: Google Keep --> Notesnook [FOSS][P]
      • Social Media:
        • Facebook --> Nothing
        • Twitter/X --> Mastodon (mas.to) [EU][FOSS][D]
        • Reddit --> Lemmy (lemm.ee) [EU][FOSS][D]
      • AI Chatbot: OpenAI ChatGPT --> Mistral AI Le Chat [EU]
      • Videos: Youtube --> Unwatched [EU][FOSS][P]
      • Podcasts: Apple Podcasts --> Spotify --> Pocket Casts [FOSS]
      • Translate: Google Translate --> DeepL [EU]
      • Maps: Google Maps --> Organic Maps [EU][FOSS][P]
      • Weather: Apple Weather --> YR [EU]
      • Online payments: PayPal --> Revolut [EU]
      • Password manager: LastPass --> Mozilla Firefox --> Bitwarden [FOSS][P]
      • Online shopping: Amazon --> Cdiscount [EU]
      • Travel booking: Booking.com --> Direct booking

      And here's the list of things I couldn't let go of:

      • Mobile OS: iOS | I have a business iPhone which is also my personal phone
      • Messaging: WhatsApp | The network effect is too big here: family, friends, local businesses, etc
      • Streaming services: Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+ | These come basically for free with my ISP and are too convenient for the moment (esp. w/ kids)
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      paddy66@lemmy.ml
      wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:58 last edited by
      #14

      We just put some of these privacy alternatives on a map: https://www.rebeltechalliance.org/stopusingbigtech.html (scroll down)

      What's missing is anything truly FOSS with no fixed country of origin, but it's still fun to see how some of the main players spread out.

      Enjoy!

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      • C ceiron@lemm.ee
        27 May 2025, 10:30

        The problem I have is that I travel frequently across countries so I do need a single app that is reliable enough across Central Europe. Meteoswiss is great but doesn’t cover the neighbouring countries.

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        josteinsn@lemmy.world
        wrote on 27 May 2025, 11:38 last edited by
        #15

        Yes, true… I’ve heard people in several countries say yr is their preferred service, so it must be quite good in general.

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        • T tflyghtz@lemm.ee
          27 May 2025, 04:54

          The alternative to Netflix Amazon and Disney im using now (also kid friendly) is DVDs. Either bought used or self-burnt.

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          vintageballs@feddit.org
          wrote on 27 May 2025, 12:00 last edited by
          #16

          DVDs have atrocious quality. Blu rays are where it's at

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          • V vintageballs@feddit.org
            27 May 2025, 12:00

            DVDs have atrocious quality. Blu rays are where it's at

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            tflyghtz@lemm.ee
            wrote on 27 May 2025, 12:10 last edited by
            #17

            Maybe from a technical point of view, but if you have a 1080 screen or lower, from a couch distance you cannot see any deficiencies in quality. I have a 4k tv and my player upscales the footage. I cannot complain whatsoever.

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            • T tflyghtz@lemm.ee
              27 May 2025, 12:10

              Maybe from a technical point of view, but if you have a 1080 screen or lower, from a couch distance you cannot see any deficiencies in quality. I have a 4k tv and my player upscales the footage. I cannot complain whatsoever.

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              vintageballs@feddit.org
              wrote on 27 May 2025, 12:51 last edited by
              #18

              Couch distance and especially screen size can vary a lot. I can clearly see the difference between full HD and whatever resolution DVDs have at the 2~3 meter distance at my parents'. (43" full HD screen). Same goes for 4K vs full HD on my 60" screen.

              In any case, my main point was that DVDs are no viable alternative to streaming services since all of them offer much better quality. If you really want to replace streaming services at similar or better quality, go for Blu rays.

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              • C ceiron@lemm.ee
                26 May 2025, 21:21

                Over the past few months, I embarked on a rewarding digital journey to move away from US big tech and towards more European [EU], open source [FOSS], privacy-oriented [P], and decentralized [D] alternatives.

                I'm sharing my experience here in case it can be useful to others, as well as to gather any additional thoughts or suggestions:

                • Desktop OS: Microsoft Windows 11 --> OpenSUSE Tumbleweed + KDE [EU][FOSS]
                • Web browser: Google Chrome --> Brave --> Vivaldi --> Mozilla Firefox + Strict privacy settings, uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Conset-O-Matic [FOSS][P]
                • Email: Gmail --> Infomaniak Mail [EU][FOSS]
                • Calendar: Google Calendar --> Infomaniak Calendar [EU][FOSS] + OneCalendar [EU]
                • Files: Dropbox --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                • Photos: Google Photos --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                • Notes: Google Keep --> Notesnook [FOSS][P]
                • Social Media:
                  • Facebook --> Nothing
                  • Twitter/X --> Mastodon (mas.to) [EU][FOSS][D]
                  • Reddit --> Lemmy (lemm.ee) [EU][FOSS][D]
                • AI Chatbot: OpenAI ChatGPT --> Mistral AI Le Chat [EU]
                • Videos: Youtube --> Unwatched [EU][FOSS][P]
                • Podcasts: Apple Podcasts --> Spotify --> Pocket Casts [FOSS]
                • Translate: Google Translate --> DeepL [EU]
                • Maps: Google Maps --> Organic Maps [EU][FOSS][P]
                • Weather: Apple Weather --> YR [EU]
                • Online payments: PayPal --> Revolut [EU]
                • Password manager: LastPass --> Mozilla Firefox --> Bitwarden [FOSS][P]
                • Online shopping: Amazon --> Cdiscount [EU]
                • Travel booking: Booking.com --> Direct booking

                And here's the list of things I couldn't let go of:

                • Mobile OS: iOS | I have a business iPhone which is also my personal phone
                • Messaging: WhatsApp | The network effect is too big here: family, friends, local businesses, etc
                • Streaming services: Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+ | These come basically for free with my ISP and are too convenient for the moment (esp. w/ kids)
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                fairgreen@lemmy.world
                wrote on 27 May 2025, 13:00 last edited by
                #19

                Try /e/OS, i think you will love it and find the UI to be surprisingly much like IOS! www.e.foundation

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                • F fairgreen@lemmy.world
                  27 May 2025, 13:00

                  Try /e/OS, i think you will love it and find the UI to be surprisingly much like IOS! www.e.foundation

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                  ceiron@lemm.ee
                  wrote on 27 May 2025, 13:06 last edited by
                  #20

                  On my radar but I only have an iPhone (provided by my company) so pretty limited in what I can do with it (and not keen on having 2 phones)

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                  • C ceiron@lemm.ee
                    26 May 2025, 21:21

                    Over the past few months, I embarked on a rewarding digital journey to move away from US big tech and towards more European [EU], open source [FOSS], privacy-oriented [P], and decentralized [D] alternatives.

                    I'm sharing my experience here in case it can be useful to others, as well as to gather any additional thoughts or suggestions:

                    • Desktop OS: Microsoft Windows 11 --> OpenSUSE Tumbleweed + KDE [EU][FOSS]
                    • Web browser: Google Chrome --> Brave --> Vivaldi --> Mozilla Firefox + Strict privacy settings, uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Conset-O-Matic [FOSS][P]
                    • Email: Gmail --> Infomaniak Mail [EU][FOSS]
                    • Calendar: Google Calendar --> Infomaniak Calendar [EU][FOSS] + OneCalendar [EU]
                    • Files: Dropbox --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                    • Photos: Google Photos --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                    • Notes: Google Keep --> Notesnook [FOSS][P]
                    • Social Media:
                      • Facebook --> Nothing
                      • Twitter/X --> Mastodon (mas.to) [EU][FOSS][D]
                      • Reddit --> Lemmy (lemm.ee) [EU][FOSS][D]
                    • AI Chatbot: OpenAI ChatGPT --> Mistral AI Le Chat [EU]
                    • Videos: Youtube --> Unwatched [EU][FOSS][P]
                    • Podcasts: Apple Podcasts --> Spotify --> Pocket Casts [FOSS]
                    • Translate: Google Translate --> DeepL [EU]
                    • Maps: Google Maps --> Organic Maps [EU][FOSS][P]
                    • Weather: Apple Weather --> YR [EU]
                    • Online payments: PayPal --> Revolut [EU]
                    • Password manager: LastPass --> Mozilla Firefox --> Bitwarden [FOSS][P]
                    • Online shopping: Amazon --> Cdiscount [EU]
                    • Travel booking: Booking.com --> Direct booking

                    And here's the list of things I couldn't let go of:

                    • Mobile OS: iOS | I have a business iPhone which is also my personal phone
                    • Messaging: WhatsApp | The network effect is too big here: family, friends, local businesses, etc
                    • Streaming services: Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+ | These come basically for free with my ISP and are too convenient for the moment (esp. w/ kids)
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                    atlien51@lemm.ee
                    wrote on 27 May 2025, 14:00 last edited by
                    #21

                    Based lol

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                    • C ceiron@lemm.ee
                      26 May 2025, 21:21

                      Over the past few months, I embarked on a rewarding digital journey to move away from US big tech and towards more European [EU], open source [FOSS], privacy-oriented [P], and decentralized [D] alternatives.

                      I'm sharing my experience here in case it can be useful to others, as well as to gather any additional thoughts or suggestions:

                      • Desktop OS: Microsoft Windows 11 --> OpenSUSE Tumbleweed + KDE [EU][FOSS]
                      • Web browser: Google Chrome --> Brave --> Vivaldi --> Mozilla Firefox + Strict privacy settings, uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Conset-O-Matic [FOSS][P]
                      • Email: Gmail --> Infomaniak Mail [EU][FOSS]
                      • Calendar: Google Calendar --> Infomaniak Calendar [EU][FOSS] + OneCalendar [EU]
                      • Files: Dropbox --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                      • Photos: Google Photos --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                      • Notes: Google Keep --> Notesnook [FOSS][P]
                      • Social Media:
                        • Facebook --> Nothing
                        • Twitter/X --> Mastodon (mas.to) [EU][FOSS][D]
                        • Reddit --> Lemmy (lemm.ee) [EU][FOSS][D]
                      • AI Chatbot: OpenAI ChatGPT --> Mistral AI Le Chat [EU]
                      • Videos: Youtube --> Unwatched [EU][FOSS][P]
                      • Podcasts: Apple Podcasts --> Spotify --> Pocket Casts [FOSS]
                      • Translate: Google Translate --> DeepL [EU]
                      • Maps: Google Maps --> Organic Maps [EU][FOSS][P]
                      • Weather: Apple Weather --> YR [EU]
                      • Online payments: PayPal --> Revolut [EU]
                      • Password manager: LastPass --> Mozilla Firefox --> Bitwarden [FOSS][P]
                      • Online shopping: Amazon --> Cdiscount [EU]
                      • Travel booking: Booking.com --> Direct booking

                      And here's the list of things I couldn't let go of:

                      • Mobile OS: iOS | I have a business iPhone which is also my personal phone
                      • Messaging: WhatsApp | The network effect is too big here: family, friends, local businesses, etc
                      • Streaming services: Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+ | These come basically for free with my ISP and are too convenient for the moment (esp. w/ kids)
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                      iortega@lemmy.eus
                      wrote on 27 May 2025, 14:31 last edited by
                      #22

                      Messaging: If you ever have a secondary phone, like for your job, install there whatsapp for business related matters and add your personal account. Connect to web.whatsapp.com from your personal phone enabling desktop view and get the QR. Then, on your business phone, on your personal account, go to the add another device menu to read the QR. Save the app. Reescan the QR every 2 weeks (when it logs out). The interface is sh*t for mobile, but it works.

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                      • C ceiron@lemm.ee
                        26 May 2025, 21:21

                        Over the past few months, I embarked on a rewarding digital journey to move away from US big tech and towards more European [EU], open source [FOSS], privacy-oriented [P], and decentralized [D] alternatives.

                        I'm sharing my experience here in case it can be useful to others, as well as to gather any additional thoughts or suggestions:

                        • Desktop OS: Microsoft Windows 11 --> OpenSUSE Tumbleweed + KDE [EU][FOSS]
                        • Web browser: Google Chrome --> Brave --> Vivaldi --> Mozilla Firefox + Strict privacy settings, uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Conset-O-Matic [FOSS][P]
                        • Email: Gmail --> Infomaniak Mail [EU][FOSS]
                        • Calendar: Google Calendar --> Infomaniak Calendar [EU][FOSS] + OneCalendar [EU]
                        • Files: Dropbox --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                        • Photos: Google Photos --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                        • Notes: Google Keep --> Notesnook [FOSS][P]
                        • Social Media:
                          • Facebook --> Nothing
                          • Twitter/X --> Mastodon (mas.to) [EU][FOSS][D]
                          • Reddit --> Lemmy (lemm.ee) [EU][FOSS][D]
                        • AI Chatbot: OpenAI ChatGPT --> Mistral AI Le Chat [EU]
                        • Videos: Youtube --> Unwatched [EU][FOSS][P]
                        • Podcasts: Apple Podcasts --> Spotify --> Pocket Casts [FOSS]
                        • Translate: Google Translate --> DeepL [EU]
                        • Maps: Google Maps --> Organic Maps [EU][FOSS][P]
                        • Weather: Apple Weather --> YR [EU]
                        • Online payments: PayPal --> Revolut [EU]
                        • Password manager: LastPass --> Mozilla Firefox --> Bitwarden [FOSS][P]
                        • Online shopping: Amazon --> Cdiscount [EU]
                        • Travel booking: Booking.com --> Direct booking

                        And here's the list of things I couldn't let go of:

                        • Mobile OS: iOS | I have a business iPhone which is also my personal phone
                        • Messaging: WhatsApp | The network effect is too big here: family, friends, local businesses, etc
                        • Streaming services: Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+ | These come basically for free with my ISP and are too convenient for the moment (esp. w/ kids)
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                        fizz@lemmy.nz
                        wrote on 28 May 2025, 00:04 last edited by
                        #23

                        What did you do for music? I want to replace Spotify but the loop of downloading music from my weekly listens brains playlist and organising it is draining.

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                        • F fizz@lemmy.nz
                          28 May 2025, 00:04

                          What did you do for music? I want to replace Spotify but the loop of downloading music from my weekly listens brains playlist and organising it is draining.

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                          ceiron@lemm.ee
                          wrote on 28 May 2025, 04:38 last edited by
                          #24

                          I’m on Spotify (which is European) but I don’t stream a lot of music - I’m mostly into podcasts and radios.

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                          • C ceiron@lemm.ee
                            26 May 2025, 21:21

                            Over the past few months, I embarked on a rewarding digital journey to move away from US big tech and towards more European [EU], open source [FOSS], privacy-oriented [P], and decentralized [D] alternatives.

                            I'm sharing my experience here in case it can be useful to others, as well as to gather any additional thoughts or suggestions:

                            • Desktop OS: Microsoft Windows 11 --> OpenSUSE Tumbleweed + KDE [EU][FOSS]
                            • Web browser: Google Chrome --> Brave --> Vivaldi --> Mozilla Firefox + Strict privacy settings, uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Conset-O-Matic [FOSS][P]
                            • Email: Gmail --> Infomaniak Mail [EU][FOSS]
                            • Calendar: Google Calendar --> Infomaniak Calendar [EU][FOSS] + OneCalendar [EU]
                            • Files: Dropbox --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                            • Photos: Google Photos --> Infomaniak kDrive [EU][FOSS]
                            • Notes: Google Keep --> Notesnook [FOSS][P]
                            • Social Media:
                              • Facebook --> Nothing
                              • Twitter/X --> Mastodon (mas.to) [EU][FOSS][D]
                              • Reddit --> Lemmy (lemm.ee) [EU][FOSS][D]
                            • AI Chatbot: OpenAI ChatGPT --> Mistral AI Le Chat [EU]
                            • Videos: Youtube --> Unwatched [EU][FOSS][P]
                            • Podcasts: Apple Podcasts --> Spotify --> Pocket Casts [FOSS]
                            • Translate: Google Translate --> DeepL [EU]
                            • Maps: Google Maps --> Organic Maps [EU][FOSS][P]
                            • Weather: Apple Weather --> YR [EU]
                            • Online payments: PayPal --> Revolut [EU]
                            • Password manager: LastPass --> Mozilla Firefox --> Bitwarden [FOSS][P]
                            • Online shopping: Amazon --> Cdiscount [EU]
                            • Travel booking: Booking.com --> Direct booking

                            And here's the list of things I couldn't let go of:

                            • Mobile OS: iOS | I have a business iPhone which is also my personal phone
                            • Messaging: WhatsApp | The network effect is too big here: family, friends, local businesses, etc
                            • Streaming services: Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+ | These come basically for free with my ISP and are too convenient for the moment (esp. w/ kids)
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                            inlinestyle@lemmy.world
                            wrote on 28 May 2025, 12:45 last edited by
                            #25

                            Beautiful journey! And very close to the path we’re trying to support.

                            If you’re still exploring alternatives, feel free to try InlineStyle.
                            It’s a small open-source platform from Europe that brings together docs, notes, music (Funkwhale), video (PeerTube), games, email and personal sites. All under one roof, with no ads or trackers.

                            We’d truly love to hear your thoughts, especially on how we can grow this into a real alternative for digital independence, not just a nostalgic step back.

                            Your feedback would mean a lot → https://www.inlinestyle.it/

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                            • C ceiron@lemm.ee
                              28 May 2025, 04:38

                              I’m on Spotify (which is European) but I don’t stream a lot of music - I’m mostly into podcasts and radios.

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                              tfm@europe.pub
                              wrote on 28 May 2025, 13:19 last edited by
                              #26

                              What about audiobookshelf and funkwhale?

                              C 1 Reply Last reply 28 May 2025, 17:34
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                              • T tfm@europe.pub
                                28 May 2025, 13:19

                                What about audiobookshelf and funkwhale?

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                                ceiron@lemm.ee
                                wrote on 28 May 2025, 17:34 last edited by
                                #27

                                Interesting options if you’re into self-hosting (I’m not atm)

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