I honestly don’t mind some story in games. Heck, I’ve got hundreds of hours in Skyrim and other RPG’s. Doom to me is run & gun. Doom 2016 had the perfect amount of story for a Doom game.

Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything else quite like it. If there is, I don’t know it. Most other shooters are either COD, SciFi, retro FPS or stuff like Borderlands that leans into comedy.

If this was ‘back in the day’, closest recommendation to it would likely be something like the Quake series. That’s id’s own successor to the original Doom. Sadly also long dead.

God I miss Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech? I’d love to see a quake reboot a la 2016 Doom. That would be fucking awesome.

Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech?

Based on everything Ive seen.. theyd ruin Quake too

Good news then because Dark Ages is extremely different than Eternal and a lot of people who didn’t like that game but loved 2016 are happy with it. I’m not saying rush out and spend $70 on it, but give it a go when it’s on sale down the line and you might end up really pleased with it.

Eternal was too hard for me. Love Dark Ages.

We can dream

Well it has Denuvo... I wasn't buying that shit

I recently replayed Quake ii + expansions, too, and it's also its own joined of fun. Hunting for secrets never got old.

I agree. Unless they got very lucky I think the only way they could do Quake 5/2030/whatever is if they gave it the indie treatment, which as vassals of a giant publisher they are unable to do with an important IP.

I find TDA too messy compared to 2016 and none of the tight game design of Eternal. It is the worst of both previous games.

Yeah, I'd buy a DLC for 2016 right now but I doubt I'll buy Dark Ages, at least not until it's on sale.

No less than is correct because they know the exact number they have sold.

If you've sold less than 1,000 units then you have sold a number of units that is under 1,000.

If you have sold fewer than 1,000 units you have not sold 1,000 units but you're not sure how many units you have sold just that that number didn't reach 1,000.

But they do know how many units they sold, otherwise they wouldn't know if they had sold less than 1,000 so it is "less than".

Someone is probably explaining the math to some suits how these are still good numbers because they now charge 80 dollars.
In a podcast someone said that the 120 whatever dollar version that lets you play 3 days earlier was so dogshit bad that they had to yank out the power cable out of the wall because it crashed so hard. It's hard to feel bad for these paid beta testers tho

In the UK its £70 ($95) for the base game and £100 ($135) for the full game. Bethesda go fuck yourself.

Edit: Title is somewhat dishonest, it has over 3M players. Just that most are on gamepass. Still not buying it though.

It's ironic that they attach third-party software to prevent piracy out of fear of losing sales, but in the end, it actually causes them to sell fewer copies. lol

20 and 40 hours both sound pretty terrible for such expensive games. Got far more out of games like Factorio and for a lot less.

I'd rather have a 20 hour game that is engaging the entire time than a game that has a ton of filler in it.

Factorio is engaging the entire time. Not a massive fan on story games because that severely limits the playtime you get from the game.

Yep, different style of games. I need to give Factorio another shot, it seems really up my alley but I couldn't get into it.

I still haven't bought it, played it at a friend for a while, and had a lot of fun

Did you find it got better after the updates? I still think space marine is kind of meh, my son has fun with it though, which is nice