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DOOM: The Dark Ages Has Reportedly Sold Less Than 1 Million Copies

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    After Eternal, I’m not interested in this one. 2016 was fantastic, but Eternal felt all over the place. It tried to tell a story but skipped the entire second "book" between the two games, making it feel unfinished trilogy.

    Then there’s the difficulty, easy was too easy, and normal was too hard. I shouldn’t have to choose between surviving 10+ hits (easy) or dying in 3-4 (normal). That’s not balance. And I don’t have the time to ‘git gud’ when the difficulty jump is this extreme.

    Considering they already had to tweak difficulty in The Dark Ages, it looks like they’re still struggling to get the scaling right

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    • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

      After Eternal, I’m not interested in this one. 2016 was fantastic, but Eternal felt all over the place. It tried to tell a story but skipped the entire second "book" between the two games, making it feel unfinished trilogy.

      Then there’s the difficulty, easy was too easy, and normal was too hard. I shouldn’t have to choose between surviving 10+ hits (easy) or dying in 3-4 (normal). That’s not balance. And I don’t have the time to ‘git gud’ when the difficulty jump is this extreme.

      Considering they already had to tweak difficulty in The Dark Ages, it looks like they’re still struggling to get the scaling right

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      In the dark ages you can customise the difficulty to a great degree.

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        Oh no, language is evolving! Best be angry.

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        What a weird reply...

        Do you think I'm angry?

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          What a weird reply...

          Do you think I'm angry?

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          I know I'm not offended by a language changing. Dunno about you 🤷‍♂

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            I know I'm not offended by a language changing. Dunno about you 🤷‍♂

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            Do you think I'm offended by it?

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            • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]
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              Fewer than. *

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                I also liked Doom 2016 and it worked well on Linux. I’m sad to hear that the later ones weren’t as good.

                Do you know of any games similar to Doom 2016 that you’d recommend? I liked how it didn’t waste time trying to tell a story, usually I’d watch a movie or read a book if I want a good story. Doom had enjoyable steady action and I felt like I could enjoy it for half an hour at a time without needing much time to get into it.

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                I honestly don’t mind some story in games. Heck, I’ve got hundreds of hours in Skyrim and other RPG’s. Doom to me is run & gun. Doom 2016 had the perfect amount of story for a Doom game.

                Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything else quite like it. If there is, I don’t know it. Most other shooters are either COD, SciFi, retro FPS or stuff like Borderlands that leans into comedy.

                If this was ‘back in the day’, closest recommendation to it would likely be something like the Quake series. That’s id’s own successor to the original Doom. Sadly also long dead.

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                  I'm on the same page as you re: Eternal. The first hour out so was fun, and the graphics are neat, but it stops feeling like a Doom game pretty quickly. It doesn't even feel like a Quake game, which would at least be tolerable.

                  Will probably give this one a shot eventually when it's on discount, but not in a hurry.

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                  God I miss Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech? I’d love to see a quake reboot a la 2016 Doom. That would be fucking awesome.

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                  • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                    God I miss Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech? I’d love to see a quake reboot a la 2016 Doom. That would be fucking awesome.

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                    Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech?

                    Based on everything Ive seen.. theyd ruin Quake too

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                    • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                      Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.

                      Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?

                      Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.

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                      Good news then because Dark Ages is extremely different than Eternal and a lot of people who didn’t like that game but loved 2016 are happy with it. I’m not saying rush out and spend $70 on it, but give it a go when it’s on sale down the line and you might end up really pleased with it.

                      Eternal was too hard for me. Love Dark Ages.

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                      • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                        God I miss Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech? I’d love to see a quake reboot a la 2016 Doom. That would be fucking awesome.

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                        We can dream

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                          Well it has Denuvo... I wasn't buying that shit

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                          • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                            God I miss Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech? I’d love to see a quake reboot a la 2016 Doom. That would be fucking awesome.

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                            I recently replayed Quake ii + expansions, too, and it's also its own joined of fun. Hunting for secrets never got old.

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                              Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech?

                              Based on everything Ive seen.. theyd ruin Quake too

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                              I agree. Unless they got very lucky I think the only way they could do Quake 5/2030/whatever is if they gave it the indie treatment, which as vassals of a giant publisher they are unable to do with an important IP.

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                                Good news then because Dark Ages is extremely different than Eternal and a lot of people who didn’t like that game but loved 2016 are happy with it. I’m not saying rush out and spend $70 on it, but give it a go when it’s on sale down the line and you might end up really pleased with it.

                                Eternal was too hard for me. Love Dark Ages.

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                                I find TDA too messy compared to 2016 and none of the tight game design of Eternal. It is the worst of both previous games.

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                                • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                  Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.

                                  Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?

                                  Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.

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                                  Yeah, I'd buy a DLC for 2016 right now but I doubt I'll buy Dark Ages, at least not until it's on sale.

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                                    Fewer than. *

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                                    No less than is correct because they know the exact number they have sold.

                                    If you've sold less than 1,000 units then you have sold a number of units that is under 1,000.

                                    If you have sold fewer than 1,000 units you have not sold 1,000 units but you're not sure how many units you have sold just that that number didn't reach 1,000.

                                    But they do know how many units they sold, otherwise they wouldn't know if they had sold less than 1,000 so it is "less than".

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                                      I just barely convinced myself to spend €80 on a single game, then noticed Denuvo. Hard pass

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                                      Someone is probably explaining the math to some suits how these are still good numbers because they now charge 80 dollars.
                                      In a podcast someone said that the 120 whatever dollar version that lets you play 3 days earlier was so dogshit bad that they had to yank out the power cable out of the wall because it crashed so hard. It's hard to feel bad for these paid beta testers tho

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                                        In the UK its £70 ($95) for the base game and £100 ($135) for the full game. Bethesda go fuck yourself.

                                        Edit: Title is somewhat dishonest, it has over 3M players. Just that most are on gamepass. Still not buying it though.

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                                          Well it has Denuvo... I wasn't buying that shit

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                                          It's ironic that they attach third-party software to prevent piracy out of fear of losing sales, but in the end, it actually causes them to sell fewer copies. lol

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