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DOOM: The Dark Ages Has Reportedly Sold Less Than 1 Million Copies

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  • W wcsyndrome@lemm.ee
    26 May 2025, 13:11

    Where is it $80?

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    eggyhead@lemmings.world
    wrote on 27 May 2025, 08:44 last edited by eggyhead@lemmings.world
    #121

    Steam, the cheapest I see it as is 79,99€ where I am, which is actually US$90. I just assumed the US store did a straight numeral conversion to dollars, but you’re getting a discount too, it seems.

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    • S simple@lemm.ee
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      siresly@lemm.ee
      wrote on 27 May 2025, 09:20 last edited by
      #122

      So much I don't know here. Like what an 80.lv is, what their source Alinea Analytics is or what either of their credibility is, why a second source (Ampere) arrived at a PS5 number that deviated from Alinea's by over 100%, why this didn't make 80.lv question the veracity of the claim they opted to put in their headline, what sales even mean in the context of Game Pass, why I would care about the potential profitability of a game I don't care about, why I clicked this post, am writing this comment, or why Microsoft opts to be complicit in Israel's genocide.

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      • S siresly@lemm.ee
        27 May 2025, 09:20

        So much I don't know here. Like what an 80.lv is, what their source Alinea Analytics is or what either of their credibility is, why a second source (Ampere) arrived at a PS5 number that deviated from Alinea's by over 100%, why this didn't make 80.lv question the veracity of the claim they opted to put in their headline, what sales even mean in the context of Game Pass, why I would care about the potential profitability of a game I don't care about, why I clicked this post, am writing this comment, or why Microsoft opts to be complicit in Israel's genocide.

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        simple@lemm.ee
        wrote on 27 May 2025, 09:29 last edited by
        #123

        They're a market research agency, and are well-known and credible enough. See: https://80.lv/contact-us

        I care about industry news. Hence the post.

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        • T trslim@pawb.social
          27 May 2025, 01:36

          Forcing raytracing is a great way to close off a bunch of customers.

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          vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
          wrote on 27 May 2025, 09:40 last edited by
          #124

          Yep, that and it looks like the base Doom formula has been watered down a lot from the gameplay I've seen.

          The release of new games sometimes makes me play older titles, going through Doom 2 with some tasty mods atm.

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          • S simple@lemm.ee
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            burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
            wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:06 last edited by
            #125

            there's a gorillion reasons why it isnt doing so hot, but i could make a few uneducated guesses. one, gamepass subscriptions, which obfuscate the data and has sent multiple studios to the grave even when they had moderate success. two, the economy is terrible in the US and getting worse by the day, making a $70+ game not an appealing purchase. three, maybe the Boycott Divestment Sanctions protest is having some effect.

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            • S simple@lemm.ee
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              arcane2077@sh.itjust.works
              wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:26 last edited by
              #126

              I just barely convinced myself to spend €80 on a single game, then noticed Denuvo. Hard pass

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              • H hereiam@lemmy.world
                27 May 2025, 08:25

                Denuvo will revoke your licence to play a game if it thinks you've installed the game on computers with different hardware. Issue is it gets confused by changing the proton version that runs the game, thinking it's a new install on a new computer, and so quickly bans you from playing the game.

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                mitm0@lemmy.world
                wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:40 last edited by
                #127

                Oh now I get the picture, jesus it's that bad huh

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                • U utopiah@lemmy.world
                  27 May 2025, 08:28

                  That, unfortunately https://www.404media.co/doom-the-dark-ages-drm-is-locking-out-linux-users-who-bought-the-game/ namely that each new Proton "install" e.g. switching version because there is a bug counts as a new install which are limited.

                  For the bigger picture https://www.defectivebydesign.org/

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                  mitm0@lemmy.world
                  wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:41 last edited by
                  #128

                  I just wished GOG put more effort, because their Anti-DRM stance is cool AF. I recently bought The Earth-2150 trilogy from GOG

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                  • B burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
                    27 May 2025, 10:06

                    there's a gorillion reasons why it isnt doing so hot, but i could make a few uneducated guesses. one, gamepass subscriptions, which obfuscate the data and has sent multiple studios to the grave even when they had moderate success. two, the economy is terrible in the US and getting worse by the day, making a $70+ game not an appealing purchase. three, maybe the Boycott Divestment Sanctions protest is having some effect.

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                    duamerthrax@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:47 last edited by
                    #129

                    Four, hardware requirements delaying would be purchasers.

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                    • S simple@lemm.ee
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                      finishingdutch@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:55 last edited by
                      #130

                      Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.

                      Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?

                      Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.

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                      • S simple@lemm.ee
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                        msbeta1421@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 27 May 2025, 11:24 last edited by
                        #131

                        The only real criticism I have of the game is the price. I think it was a great single player experience, but I totally understand people balking at the $70 price tag.

                        It was fun, but I put it down once the credits rolled. Nothing inherently wrong with that; cramming a ton of completionist and weekly update content would not have made this a better game.

                        Maybe I’m just old.

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                        • N null@slrpnk.net
                          27 May 2025, 01:59

                          What "experts" argue about that?

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                          atro_city@fedia.io
                          wrote on 27 May 2025, 11:48 last edited by
                          #132

                          Literally Cambridge University in 2004 and recently again

                          You will often hear less used with plural countable nouns in informal spoken situations, but traditionally it is not considered to be correct:

                          We’ve got less pizzas than we need. There’s ten people and only eight pizzas. (traditionally correct usage: fewer pizzas)

                          And a good blog post on the topic that actually fits to this situation

                          He goes on to point out what less/fewer purists often ignore: that even countables may, in a given context, be considered as quantities rather than numbers. "For instance: 'Not many of these buildings are fewer than thirty years old.’ The thought here is not of individual years but of a period of time; therefore, less."

                          Which is precisely what's happening here.

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                          • B burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
                            27 May 2025, 10:06

                            there's a gorillion reasons why it isnt doing so hot, but i could make a few uneducated guesses. one, gamepass subscriptions, which obfuscate the data and has sent multiple studios to the grave even when they had moderate success. two, the economy is terrible in the US and getting worse by the day, making a $70+ game not an appealing purchase. three, maybe the Boycott Divestment Sanctions protest is having some effect.

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                            squizzy@lemmy.world
                            wrote on 27 May 2025, 11:53 last edited by
                            #133

                            What is the BDS link here?

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                            • D daddledew@lemmy.world
                              26 May 2025, 13:16

                              For me anyway, my loss of interest in the DOOM franchise began when they started dehumanizing the Doom Marine and started stacking fantasy/medieval elements to the main protagonist and his arsenal. They turned a futuristic space marine who just got punished for punching an officer into some sort of fantastic demigod thing. It got really bad in Doom Eternal already.

                              I like my DOOM games when it is a battle of sci-fi military forces against demonic forces. Human technology versus the hordes of hell. But now with Dark Ages Bethesda turned the franchise into a more violent and edgy Skyrim.

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                              catloaf@lemm.ee
                              wrote on 27 May 2025, 12:02 last edited by
                              #134

                              When was the doomguy humanized?

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                              • S squizzy@lemmy.world
                                27 May 2025, 11:53

                                What is the BDS link here?

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                                ryper@lemmy.ca
                                wrote on 27 May 2025, 12:35 last edited by
                                #135

                                Microsoft owns id's parent company these days, and Microsoft provides services to the Israeli military.

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                                • A atro_city@fedia.io
                                  27 May 2025, 11:48

                                  Literally Cambridge University in 2004 and recently again

                                  You will often hear less used with plural countable nouns in informal spoken situations, but traditionally it is not considered to be correct:

                                  We’ve got less pizzas than we need. There’s ten people and only eight pizzas. (traditionally correct usage: fewer pizzas)

                                  And a good blog post on the topic that actually fits to this situation

                                  He goes on to point out what less/fewer purists often ignore: that even countables may, in a given context, be considered as quantities rather than numbers. "For instance: 'Not many of these buildings are fewer than thirty years old.’ The thought here is not of individual years but of a period of time; therefore, less."

                                  Which is precisely what's happening here.

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                                  null@slrpnk.net
                                  wrote on 27 May 2025, 12:43 last edited by
                                  #136

                                  This is the same "argument" that says "literally" can mean "figuratively".

                                  Not a particularly interesting argument to point put that common misusage can alter meaning.

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                                  • F finishingdutch@lemmy.world
                                    27 May 2025, 10:55

                                    Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.

                                    Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?

                                    Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.

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                                    axby@lemmy.ca
                                    wrote on 27 May 2025, 15:12 last edited by
                                    #137

                                    I also liked Doom 2016 and it worked well on Linux. I’m sad to hear that the later ones weren’t as good.

                                    Do you know of any games similar to Doom 2016 that you’d recommend? I liked how it didn’t waste time trying to tell a story, usually I’d watch a movie or read a book if I want a good story. Doom had enjoyable steady action and I felt like I could enjoy it for half an hour at a time without needing much time to get into it.

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                                    • S simple@lemm.ee
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                                      wahots@pawb.social
                                      wrote on 27 May 2025, 15:20 last edited by
                                      #138

                                      DOOM 16 was fantastic, but eternal felt gross. It was a huge step back from 2016, and didn't feel fun. I'm not bothering with the newer games since they essentially are going off gimmicks.

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                                      • R ryper@lemmy.ca
                                        27 May 2025, 12:35

                                        Microsoft owns id's parent company these days, and Microsoft provides services to the Israeli military.

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                                        squizzy@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 27 May 2025, 15:21 last edited by
                                        #139

                                        Ah cool, yeah fuck microsoft. Free Palestine.

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                                        • S squizzy@lemmy.world
                                          27 May 2025, 11:53

                                          What is the BDS link here?

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                                          burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
                                          wrote on 27 May 2025, 15:49 last edited by
                                          #140

                                          BDS put Microsoft on their list of companies to boycott, and Microsoft owns the studios that made DOOM TDA

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