DOOM: The Dark Ages Has Reportedly Sold Less Than 1 Million Copies
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- It’s $80
- It’s on Gamespass, where I assume a lot of doom fans who might have otherwise purchased are likely to be.
- It’s shouldered up against Expedition 33 and Oblivion Remake, both over $20 cheaper and highly acclaimed.
- It’s $80
- (Edit) shitty DRM
wrote last edited by [email protected]up against Expedition 33
I mean... I don't play Doom due to DRM but also to be fair Expedition 33, which I'm enjoying quite a lot on Linux, is "just" 40ish hours whereas Doom is (check notes) less than 20hrs to complete? WTH. Nope.
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Where is it $80?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Steam, the cheapest I see it as is 79,99€ where I am, which is actually US$90. I just assumed the US store did a straight numeral conversion to dollars, but you’re getting a discount too, it seems.
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So much I don't know here. Like what an 80.lv is, what their source Alinea Analytics is or what either of their credibility is, why a second source (Ampere) arrived at a PS5 number that deviated from Alinea's by over 100%, why this didn't make 80.lv question the veracity of the claim they opted to put in their headline, what sales even mean in the context of Game Pass, why I would care about the potential profitability of a game I don't care about, why I clicked this post, am writing this comment, or why Microsoft opts to be complicit in Israel's genocide.
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So much I don't know here. Like what an 80.lv is, what their source Alinea Analytics is or what either of their credibility is, why a second source (Ampere) arrived at a PS5 number that deviated from Alinea's by over 100%, why this didn't make 80.lv question the veracity of the claim they opted to put in their headline, what sales even mean in the context of Game Pass, why I would care about the potential profitability of a game I don't care about, why I clicked this post, am writing this comment, or why Microsoft opts to be complicit in Israel's genocide.
They're a market research agency, and are well-known and credible enough. See: https://80.lv/contact-us
I care about industry news. Hence the post.
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Forcing raytracing is a great way to close off a bunch of customers.
Yep, that and it looks like the base Doom formula has been watered down a lot from the gameplay I've seen.
The release of new games sometimes makes me play older titles, going through Doom 2 with some tasty mods atm.
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there's a gorillion reasons why it isnt doing so hot, but i could make a few uneducated guesses. one, gamepass subscriptions, which obfuscate the data and has sent multiple studios to the grave even when they had moderate success. two, the economy is terrible in the US and getting worse by the day, making a $70+ game not an appealing purchase. three, maybe the Boycott Divestment Sanctions protest is having some effect.
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I just barely convinced myself to spend €80 on a single game, then noticed Denuvo. Hard pass
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Denuvo will revoke your licence to play a game if it thinks you've installed the game on computers with different hardware. Issue is it gets confused by changing the proton version that runs the game, thinking it's a new install on a new computer, and so quickly bans you from playing the game.
Oh now I get the picture, jesus it's that bad huh
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That, unfortunately https://www.404media.co/doom-the-dark-ages-drm-is-locking-out-linux-users-who-bought-the-game/ namely that each new Proton "install" e.g. switching version because there is a bug counts as a new install which are limited.
For the bigger picture https://www.defectivebydesign.org/
I just wished GOG put more effort, because their Anti-DRM stance is cool AF. I recently bought The Earth-2150 trilogy from GOG
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there's a gorillion reasons why it isnt doing so hot, but i could make a few uneducated guesses. one, gamepass subscriptions, which obfuscate the data and has sent multiple studios to the grave even when they had moderate success. two, the economy is terrible in the US and getting worse by the day, making a $70+ game not an appealing purchase. three, maybe the Boycott Divestment Sanctions protest is having some effect.
Four, hardware requirements delaying would be purchasers.
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Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.
Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?
Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.
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The only real criticism I have of the game is the price. I think it was a great single player experience, but I totally understand people balking at the $70 price tag.
It was fun, but I put it down once the credits rolled. Nothing inherently wrong with that; cramming a ton of completionist and weekly update content would not have made this a better game.
Maybe I’m just old.
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What "experts" argue about that?
Literally Cambridge University in 2004 and recently again
You will often hear less used with plural countable nouns in informal spoken situations, but traditionally it is not considered to be correct:
We’ve got less pizzas than we need. There’s ten people and only eight pizzas. (traditionally correct usage: fewer pizzas)
And a good blog post on the topic that actually fits to this situation
He goes on to point out what less/fewer purists often ignore: that even countables may, in a given context, be considered as quantities rather than numbers. "For instance: 'Not many of these buildings are fewer than thirty years old.’ The thought here is not of individual years but of a period of time; therefore, less."
Which is precisely what's happening here.
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there's a gorillion reasons why it isnt doing so hot, but i could make a few uneducated guesses. one, gamepass subscriptions, which obfuscate the data and has sent multiple studios to the grave even when they had moderate success. two, the economy is terrible in the US and getting worse by the day, making a $70+ game not an appealing purchase. three, maybe the Boycott Divestment Sanctions protest is having some effect.
What is the BDS link here?
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For me anyway, my loss of interest in the DOOM franchise began when they started dehumanizing the Doom Marine and started stacking fantasy/medieval elements to the main protagonist and his arsenal. They turned a futuristic space marine who just got punished for punching an officer into some sort of fantastic demigod thing. It got really bad in Doom Eternal already.
I like my DOOM games when it is a battle of sci-fi military forces against demonic forces. Human technology versus the hordes of hell. But now with Dark Ages Bethesda turned the franchise into a more violent and edgy Skyrim.
When was the doomguy humanized?
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What is the BDS link here?
Microsoft owns id's parent company these days, and Microsoft provides services to the Israeli military.
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Literally Cambridge University in 2004 and recently again
You will often hear less used with plural countable nouns in informal spoken situations, but traditionally it is not considered to be correct:
We’ve got less pizzas than we need. There’s ten people and only eight pizzas. (traditionally correct usage: fewer pizzas)
And a good blog post on the topic that actually fits to this situation
He goes on to point out what less/fewer purists often ignore: that even countables may, in a given context, be considered as quantities rather than numbers. "For instance: 'Not many of these buildings are fewer than thirty years old.’ The thought here is not of individual years but of a period of time; therefore, less."
Which is precisely what's happening here.
This is the same "argument" that says "literally" can mean "figuratively".
Not a particularly interesting argument to point put that common misusage can alter meaning.
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Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.
Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?
Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.
I also liked Doom 2016 and it worked well on Linux. I’m sad to hear that the later ones weren’t as good.
Do you know of any games similar to Doom 2016 that you’d recommend? I liked how it didn’t waste time trying to tell a story, usually I’d watch a movie or read a book if I want a good story. Doom had enjoyable steady action and I felt like I could enjoy it for half an hour at a time without needing much time to get into it.
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DOOM 16 was fantastic, but eternal felt gross. It was a huge step back from 2016, and didn't feel fun. I'm not bothering with the newer games since they essentially are going off gimmicks.
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Microsoft owns id's parent company these days, and Microsoft provides services to the Israeli military.
Ah cool, yeah fuck microsoft. Free Palestine.
