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  • J [email protected]

    When people like you stopping coming in here with useless comments and complaints, I'll stop responding to them. 🫰

    sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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    virtual hug

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    • shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lolS [email protected]

      Yes, until it's NOT. Running RHEL 9 with docker engine slapped in there because the BitBucket self-hosted containerized runner is incompatible with podman.

      zikeji@programming.devZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      Last time I tried to migrate to Podman the first container I tried was incompatible, so was the second, and the third. Turns out at the time Linuxservers.io stuff wasn't rootless podman compatible. There have since been some improvement according to my most recent Google search just now, so maybe a retry is coming up.

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      • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now).
        Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup.. I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman...
        Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

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        I actually have a solution for your problem. Change distros:

        https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=25.05&from=0&size=50&sort=relevance&type=packages&query=docker

        all kinds of docker versions and you don't have to do any manual steps

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        • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now).
          Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup.. I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman...
          Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

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          So containers have been standardized for a while now (OCI), and even if you install "docker" it's actually just installing containerd with docker-cli. For years kubernetes is not even supporting docker-shim anymore. So there should be no issue. What is even the problem you are running into?

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          • C [email protected]

            I don't know why people ask for help and refuse to listen when it's given.

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            #25

            Exactly. Getting downvoted by plebs because of this.

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            • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

              As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now).
              Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup.. I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman...
              Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

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              #26

              Nextcloud is in EPEL 10. You'll get updates along with the rest of the OS.

              I have been using EPEL 9 Nextcloud for a good while and it's been a smooth experience.

              If you want specifically Docker, I would not choose an EL10 distro, really. I have been test driving AlmaLinux 10 and it's pretty nice, but I would look elsewhere.

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              • zikeji@programming.devZ [email protected]

                Last time I tried to migrate to Podman the first container I tried was incompatible, so was the second, and the third. Turns out at the time Linuxservers.io stuff wasn't rootless podman compatible. There have since been some improvement according to my most recent Google search just now, so maybe a retry is coming up.

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                You can run it rootful, then it behaves just like Docker.

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                • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  The main point was about that Docker is not available for now in RHEL10. Chill

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                  I'm as sympathetic as the next person, but you've been pointed to several correct answers a number of times here, and you just keep replying "its not available in rhel 10".

                  We know it's not available in rhel10. None of us can change that.

                  Either figure out how to borrow rpms from other distro repos, or pick a distro that holds your hand the way you want.

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                  • T [email protected]

                    Reading the Docs, it seems like PodMan is the replacement for docker. You could try containerd/nerdctl, but podman is likely the best way for you. RHEL10 docs even say it supports the older docker config options

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                    BUT THATS NOT WHAT I LIKE TO UUUSSSEEEEE WAAAAHHHHHHHH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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                    • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                      Well, as I am running my personal server for years, I wanted to test/understand more enterprise solutions except Debian/Ubuntu and especially solutions with SELinux.
                      In the end if I face major issues I will setup Nextcloud to a VM. Thank you for your response

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                      #30

                      If you've been running these "for years", you certainly should know the pitfalls of switching to a brand new distro. Like the exact situation you're asking about.

                      You should also know that packages tagged as compatible with another version of any distro won't harm your current one to just install and find out if it works.

                      As many other commenters are saying, we don't know what your problem is, or why you're here.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        You can run it rootful, then it behaves just like Docker.

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                        Doesn't that break the whole purpose of podman (rootless containers)?

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                        • J [email protected]

                          BUT THATS NOT WHAT I LIKE TO UUUSSSEEEEE WAAAAHHHHHHHH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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                          What the fuck is your problem? πŸ˜„

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                          • N [email protected]

                            I'm as sympathetic as the next person, but you've been pointed to several correct answers a number of times here, and you just keep replying "its not available in rhel 10".

                            We know it's not available in rhel10. None of us can change that.

                            Either figure out how to borrow rpms from other distro repos, or pick a distro that holds your hand the way you want.

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                            Oooor people could stop being rude when he clearly doesn't know if you can install an rpm from 9 on 10. All I have seen are people saying "do this", and when he says he can't, people complain instead of elaborating. If you dont want to help, dont. There is no need for everyone to gang up on him..

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                            • N [email protected]

                              Doesn't that break the whole purpose of podman (rootless containers)?

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                              A little but there is also systemd integration with podman.

                              However for that I usually set up a lingering user with limited permissions. For some cases you need rootful though.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                What the fuck is your problem? πŸ˜„

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                                #35

                                Just empathetic. Is that bad now?

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                                • Z [email protected]

                                  Oooor people could stop being rude when he clearly doesn't know if you can install an rpm from 9 on 10. All I have seen are people saying "do this", and when he says he can't, people complain instead of elaborating. If you dont want to help, dont. There is no need for everyone to gang up on him..

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                                  1. Ask a question
                                  2. Get various solutions
                                  3. Answer "rhel 10 doesn't support it" to all of them.

                                  Communities work both ways: if you don't want the community's help, why ask?

                                  No one is being rude, here.

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                                  • N [email protected]
                                    1. Ask a question
                                    2. Get various solutions
                                    3. Answer "rhel 10 doesn't support it" to all of them.

                                    Communities work both ways: if you don't want the community's help, why ask?

                                    No one is being rude, here.

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                                    1 ask question

                                    2 get answers you believe wont work

                                    3 people become rude assholes instead of explain why it will

                                    Yup, no problems here..

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                                    • Z [email protected]

                                      1 ask question

                                      2 get answers you believe wont work

                                      3 people become rude assholes instead of explain why it will

                                      Yup, no problems here..

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                                      #38

                                      Not sure why your underwear is all in a twist, nor why you think I'm responsible for EVERYONE ELSE'S COMMENTS, but either way, take it somewhere else.

                                      At this point, YOU are the one out of line.

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                                      • N [email protected]

                                        Not sure why your underwear is all in a twist, nor why you think I'm responsible for EVERYONE ELSE'S COMMENTS, but either way, take it somewhere else.

                                        At this point, YOU are the one out of line.

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                                        #39

                                        You were just the last rude commenter I saw before commenting myself. He is asking for help, and instead of continuing to help or moving on, people are rude or are attacking him. I feel that isn't ok.

                                        We can agree to disagree about who's out of line.

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                                        • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                          As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now).
                                          Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup.. I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman...
                                          Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

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                                          hasn't been available since like 8. right?

                                          IBM bought redhat, negotiations with docker bottomed out because docker wouldn't appease IBM execs, and IBM used their competitor podman. IBM yanked docker out of all packages almost overnight.

                                          yet another reason why I left redhat. any company that uses their power for the sake of using it makes running business on their platform hard, but that's kind of IBM's whole schtick.

                                          edit: why the downvotes? this is literally what happened. docker said they couldn't delivered rootless when IBM wanted it because they had other priorities. IBM said fuck you we're dropping support for podman. docker said ok, and now we have a podman still masquerading like a drop in replacement.

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