Sure that's why I drive my 4wd anywhere i want to go - i don't want or need 4wd but I can just not use that functionality.

Sorry what office suite is basic NC functionality that has been there for a long time?

I use Nextcloud for contacts, calendars, files, bookmarks, passwords, to do lists, Kanban boards, and recipies. You absolutely can turn nextcloud into a 365 competitor if that's your jam

Pretty much every car today IS AWD - a better version of plain old 4WD. So even your analogy doesn't work.

Oh please. AWD is not "better" 4WD. 2 different things for completely different purposes.

Those are add-ons.

Besides which, o365 is not a single self hosted php behemoth.

I'm loathe to extoll the virtues of 365. I don't use it and never will.

I actually want AI on my Nextcloud. As long as it runs locally. We've taken thousands of pictures over the years and desperately need some help in categorising them. Unfortunately so far I wasn't able to find any reliable way to automate it.

Nice to see that the professionals have the same problems I have.

I don't make the rules. If you're on lemmy qnd nextcloud does exactly what you want you need to complain about it being "over engineered" or "bloated" because it does things you don't need.

Have you tried Immich? It runs local and is open source. I haven't yet but was planning to soon as I have the same struggle

Yeah, trouble is that it doesn't really work well with Nextcloud together so I would have to migrate all of my devices.

And in the end it doesn't work much better than NC.

Have you tried hiring a couple humans? They're much better than AI. And you help your local (physical or virtual) economy!

Yes, I love giving other people access to my private pictures I explicitly don't host on Google, Dropbox or other external clouds. I usually pay them from the hoard of gold that's stashed away under my bed.

Trusting humans (to any extent) is quite vastly different than trusting corporations, to be honest. But if that's your jingle, you can always do the work with a bulk tagger / gallery assembler. No AI, nor environment killing, needed.

What's wrong with IONOS? Their VPS prices are some of the best out there and reliability has never been an issue for me.

Owncloud infinite scale seems, well, much more scalable

Ionos used to be 1&1 which had a fairly poor reputation. Not sure what it's become nowadays. Apparently they haven't gotten much better.

Cool, I've always wanted to get back into Perl.

Your analogy doesn't make any sense, so I assume you really don't know. So let me explain:

If you buy a 4wd, it's always a 4wd, usually that means s relatively large vehicle. You might be able to turn it to 2wd, but it doesn't make the car smaller. If you just needed a tiny car in all (or most cases), you can't push a button to make it smaller. You always drive around the extra equipment to possibly make it 4wd.

Nextcloud is plugin based. Assuming this isn't locked away on an instance like this, you can literally push a button and make that whole functionality go away everywhere. You can fully remove that 'clutter', if that's of no use to you. They are offering it always, as it adds no additional effort on the hosters side: they don't need to add gear boxes or whatever to make it have calendar & contacts. If you don't want/need it, turn it off and it's gone.

I have a nextcloud instance and I can confirm that the ai features are plugins, and are opt-in (and also pretty cool, as ai feature go)

I was in the same boat and therefore my nextcloud instance was mostly running for backwards compatibility with a few setups I have, while I mostly use seafile, immich and sogo. But a few days ago I updated to nextcloud hub 10 (I think that's with nextcloud 31 under the hood) and damn does that run smooth. I was so impressed I got motivated to finally setup the high performance backend for nc talk.

I still dislike PHP, but nextcloud just won back my heart a little.