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  • G [email protected]

    He's one of the biggest and most loved youtube personalities. He has influence, and him saying this kind of stuff is a big deal. Pretending he's a nobody shows that you're simply ignorant.

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    Ignorant is everyone like you, worshipping these useless "celebrities", my dear clown. Now, you can go back licking YouTubers' ass and proudly let everyone know.

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    • B [email protected]

      Can we stop with the narrative that corporations and celebrities are doing good? This guy is 110 Million people away from doing something for privacy and linux, once he makes 110 million and one person switch to linux or using a youtube alternative he will have done some work in the positive.

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      I mean... glass half full or half empty... You can appreciate how enthusiastic he was about it and how many people saw the video, or you can just complain...
      Btw. if he should do more, it will be the positive feedback he gets about it, not the negative one which is just demotivating...

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      • G [email protected]

        This isn't a random youtuber and his video isn't clickbait. You not understanding why people are talking about him posting this video is not the same as these discussions being pointless or spam.

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        #358

        This isn't a random youtuber and his video isn't clickbait. You not understanding why people are talking about him posting this video is not the same as these discussions being pointless or spam.

        for your generation maybe?

        You're right, i can't understand how someone can make a name by streaming himself playing games and then become a reliable source for browser comparisons or linux. I can't understand why anybody would like to watch someone else playing a "video game" either, but there is a whole generation that grew up with that. I have streamer neighbors. It's not only that i can't understand, but i think of these activities as pathetic.

        let's end this useless conversation here. You can keep talking about him all your life, i prefer to filter him.

        There was an interesting podcast about mr.Beast on the Guardian this week. I was never interested in his videos either, I remember reading his Wikipedia page some years ago to understand what he's about. For me, they're both negligible symptoms of something going really wrong. Their analysis may be interesting, they on the other hand are not.

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        • merde@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

          This isn't a random youtuber and his video isn't clickbait. You not understanding why people are talking about him posting this video is not the same as these discussions being pointless or spam.

          for your generation maybe?

          You're right, i can't understand how someone can make a name by streaming himself playing games and then become a reliable source for browser comparisons or linux. I can't understand why anybody would like to watch someone else playing a "video game" either, but there is a whole generation that grew up with that. I have streamer neighbors. It's not only that i can't understand, but i think of these activities as pathetic.

          let's end this useless conversation here. You can keep talking about him all your life, i prefer to filter him.

          There was an interesting podcast about mr.Beast on the Guardian this week. I was never interested in his videos either, I remember reading his Wikipedia page some years ago to understand what he's about. For me, they're both negligible symptoms of something going really wrong. Their analysis may be interesting, they on the other hand are not.

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          "I'm incapable of understanding the nuance of someone with a lot of influence speaking out in favor of a topic I advocate for because I'm ignorant and judgemental towards certain activities and people who make a living off of them"

          Yeah okay, bud. Good mentality you got there. But you're right, this conversation is pointless, so let's end it here.

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          • J [email protected]

            Yeah, part of why I want to get one soon is to have a semi recent phone before they can't do graphene properly anymore

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            #360

            Not being able to do graphene properly will hit everythibg if they screw up aosp i think

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            • paequ2@lemmy.todayP [email protected]
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              #361

              I'm done with Google! Watch me rant on Google's Youtube! Earns me money!

              So... yeah.

              Why are we giving neonazis attention, again?

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              • T [email protected]

                He switched to linux a while back. Now he's trying to switch as much of the rest of his digital life to FOSS/non-profit stuff. He advocates for duckduckgo, firefox, paid email, graphene os, selfhosted vaultwarden, nextcloud, anything but google maps, kodi, etc.

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                But not Youtube. Which is Google.

                Curious.

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                • W [email protected]

                  I kinda use most of proton's stuff. Also I'm not on the us so no idea what the second part means

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                  The Proton CEO praised Trump and his control and choices regarding IT and antitrust some months ago. People said it was a "one-off" but then the Proton board backed up the CEO. Writing's been on the wall for a while.

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                  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                    Organic maps rocks

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                    Organic died shortly ago (they'd been enshittifying for a while). We go with CoMaps nowadays.

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                    • L [email protected]

                      But not Youtube. Which is Google.

                      Curious.

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                      I mean...not that curious. It's his entire livelihood at the moment.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        You got the sauce?

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                        Yeah I added some context to the comment above for you.

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                        • L [email protected]

                          Organic died shortly ago (they'd been enshittifying for a while). We go with CoMaps nowadays.

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                          Can't say I agree

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Sure, but other platforms do exist, and he could post to those as well as YouTube. Other creators do, such as Gardiner Bryant to PeerTube and Louis Rossmann to Odyssee.

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                            I'm not sure how they would scale

                            Also avoid Odyssee unless you are a nazis

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                            • nasi_goreng@lemmy.zipN [email protected]

                              "calls another YouTube channel bitch lasagna"
                              that was years ago right?
                              These days he seems more calm and almost no toxicity whatsoever other than rarely saying shit, fuck, or generic swear word.

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                              He's on his dad arc. I stopped watching his japan videos cause i don't like vlogs but it's insane to me how he fell into the foss rabbit hole. Many of us can relate to that here.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                He never was. When teenagers used to scream n-word for shit and giggles, he was monetarily incentivised to do stupid stunts. No belief behind, other than to have a laugh and jump in views. When he crossed the line and was critised for it, he backed off, apologised and learned from his mistakes.

                                But people love draging it out each and every single time he does anything, be it good or bad.

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                                This is the far left people talk about when they say cancel culture or some shit. Some people are so miserable, they want everyone around them miserable too. Qq

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  Hm, I'm not sure about that. There was a point in time where he was - even outside his videos - engaging with Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk. Echoing their philosophies and world views.
                                  The alt-right was using him and his platform to lure teenagers in. It's possible that Felix did not even realize what was happening there. Or he was brainwashed himself for some time.

                                  The important thing is that from 2019 onwards he clearly distanced himself from any of that.

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                                  Almost everyone at that time was engaging with those two. Matter of fact many loved elon musk. I get the point tho.

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                                  • R [email protected]

                                    I understand why he doesn't leave youtube but why not reposts on alternatives for people who want to limit the use of youtube

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                                    He probably would. He's on his foss arc. Give him some time.

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                                    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                                      I'm not sure how they would scale

                                      Also avoid Odyssee unless you are a nazis

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                                      People keep saying they want an alternative to YouTube, but then reject every alternative that exists.

                                      Odyssee and other YouTube alternatives tend to host far right content because that content was banned on YouTube, so those creators flocked to the alternative platforms. The sites themselves aren't exactly encouraging that content, it's just where people end up due to the loose rules. The best way to fight extremism on an alternative platform is to post less extreme content and drown out the less desirable content.

                                      That's basically what happened here on Lemmy. At the start, it was mostly tankies and far left extremists, and gradually it became more mainstream as more mainstream leftists ditched Reddit and joined Lemmy.

                                      If you want an alternative to YouTube to succeed, you need to use alternative platforms that already exist.

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                                        People keep saying they want an alternative to YouTube, but then reject every alternative that exists.

                                        Odyssee and other YouTube alternatives tend to host far right content because that content was banned on YouTube, so those creators flocked to the alternative platforms. The sites themselves aren't exactly encouraging that content, it's just where people end up due to the loose rules. The best way to fight extremism on an alternative platform is to post less extreme content and drown out the less desirable content.

                                        That's basically what happened here on Lemmy. At the start, it was mostly tankies and far left extremists, and gradually it became more mainstream as more mainstream leftists ditched Reddit and joined Lemmy.

                                        If you want an alternative to YouTube to succeed, you need to use alternative platforms that already exist.

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                                        In the case of Odyssee it was founded by a far right extremest. It also isn't decentralized at all so you can't easily stand up a different instance.

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                                        • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                                          In the case of Odyssee it was founded by a far right extremest. It also isn't decentralized at all so you can't easily stand up a different instance.

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                                          I assume you're talking about Kauffman, who is the founder of LBRY, but that relationship ended when LBRY lost a lawsuit and Odysee was acquired. It is decentralized, using arweave for video hosting and a blockchain for video metadata.

                                          The main issue w/ Odysee is its near complete lack of moderation, which allows extremists, conspiracy theorists, and other undesirables to earn money. This is because Odysee gives creators the power to moderate their channels, unlike YouTube where most of that is reserved for the platform itself. Odysee is about as free-speech as you get, and that unfortunately allows less desirable content.

                                          My understanding is that Odysee is essentially what you get if you have P2P (not federated) PeerTube w/ a profit motive.

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