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    dlundh@lemmy.world
    wrote on 26 Apr 2025, 03:42 last edited by
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    After appx. 20 years in the apple eco-system I have decided to move on.

    This will take time, i’m thinking 2-5 years.

    My first order of business was a tablet. I couldn’t find a viable european tablet so went for a Samsung Tab S10 Ultra which has worked out great. It won me over from my pre-conception that android is somehow more budget, 2nd tier stuff. Its actually a very solid well-designed/built piece of kit in every way an equal to an iPad.

    So i’m looking at Fairphone and Nothing right now for a new phone, i’m not in a hurry, I was supposed to upgrade my 14 Pro this autumn and i’m thinking that is still the time line.

    Are there other european alternatives that I should be looking at?

    Will air pods and apple watches still work in any sort of way with android? I will eventually replace them but both are still quite new.

    Any advice from people who has already done this journey?

    Pic ridiculous but related.

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    • D dlundh@lemmy.world
      26 Apr 2025, 03:42

      After appx. 20 years in the apple eco-system I have decided to move on.

      This will take time, i’m thinking 2-5 years.

      My first order of business was a tablet. I couldn’t find a viable european tablet so went for a Samsung Tab S10 Ultra which has worked out great. It won me over from my pre-conception that android is somehow more budget, 2nd tier stuff. Its actually a very solid well-designed/built piece of kit in every way an equal to an iPad.

      So i’m looking at Fairphone and Nothing right now for a new phone, i’m not in a hurry, I was supposed to upgrade my 14 Pro this autumn and i’m thinking that is still the time line.

      Are there other european alternatives that I should be looking at?

      Will air pods and apple watches still work in any sort of way with android? I will eventually replace them but both are still quite new.

      Any advice from people who has already done this journey?

      Pic ridiculous but related.

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      ilandar@lemm.ee
      wrote on 26 Apr 2025, 04:44 last edited by
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      Take a look at this list. SHIFT from Germany is somewhat comparable to Fairphone in terms of modularity, HMD from FInland has also recently introduced some modular design into their phones. Note that these phonse are not manufactured in Europe, I'm not sure if any smartphone is. Another option not listed on that Wikipedia page is Mudita, from Poland, which is in the process of launching its first minimalist e-ink smartphone the Kompakt.

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      • D dlundh@lemmy.world
        26 Apr 2025, 03:42

        After appx. 20 years in the apple eco-system I have decided to move on.

        This will take time, i’m thinking 2-5 years.

        My first order of business was a tablet. I couldn’t find a viable european tablet so went for a Samsung Tab S10 Ultra which has worked out great. It won me over from my pre-conception that android is somehow more budget, 2nd tier stuff. Its actually a very solid well-designed/built piece of kit in every way an equal to an iPad.

        So i’m looking at Fairphone and Nothing right now for a new phone, i’m not in a hurry, I was supposed to upgrade my 14 Pro this autumn and i’m thinking that is still the time line.

        Are there other european alternatives that I should be looking at?

        Will air pods and apple watches still work in any sort of way with android? I will eventually replace them but both are still quite new.

        Any advice from people who has already done this journey?

        Pic ridiculous but related.

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        wrote on 26 Apr 2025, 08:33 last edited by
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        Fairphone with eOS if you want to get away from Google even more. No google services but access to f-droid and the play store with anonymous accounts.

        Or, get a second-hand phone and flash it with eOS or lineage OS.

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        • I ilandar@lemm.ee
          26 Apr 2025, 04:44

          Take a look at this list. SHIFT from Germany is somewhat comparable to Fairphone in terms of modularity, HMD from FInland has also recently introduced some modular design into their phones. Note that these phonse are not manufactured in Europe, I'm not sure if any smartphone is. Another option not listed on that Wikipedia page is Mudita, from Poland, which is in the process of launching its first minimalist e-ink smartphone the Kompakt.

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          buffalox@lemmy.world
          wrote on 26 Apr 2025, 09:03 last edited by
          #4

          My wife just bought the HMD/NOKIA G42 phone.
          It's a low end phone but still surprisingly good, and excellent battery life.
          One thing she really likes is the concept that allow you to repair it yourself if necessary.

          It's just about the opposite of an Apple phone in every way. 😋

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            26 Apr 2025, 08:33

            Fairphone with eOS if you want to get away from Google even more. No google services but access to f-droid and the play store with anonymous accounts.

            Or, get a second-hand phone and flash it with eOS or lineage OS.

            Anti Commercial-AI license

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            dlundh@lemmy.world
            wrote on 27 Apr 2025, 06:06 last edited by
            #5

            I will need my phone for banking software including bankid that we have in Sweden. I’ve read its painful to get that wirking without google services. But yeah, that was my first thought, get something de-googled. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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            • D dlundh@lemmy.world
              27 Apr 2025, 06:06

              I will need my phone for banking software including bankid that we have in Sweden. I’ve read its painful to get that wirking without google services. But yeah, that was my first thought, get something de-googled. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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              jamesboeing737max@sopuli.xyz
              wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 22:13 last edited by
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              Maybe, it supports grapheneos?

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              • B buffalox@lemmy.world
                26 Apr 2025, 09:03

                My wife just bought the HMD/NOKIA G42 phone.
                It's a low end phone but still surprisingly good, and excellent battery life.
                One thing she really likes is the concept that allow you to repair it yourself if necessary.

                It's just about the opposite of an Apple phone in every way. 😋

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                jamesboeing737max@sopuli.xyz
                wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 22:15 last edited by
                #7

                And no custom roms, so it's decently useful for three years after the software support ends.

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                • J jamesboeing737max@sopuli.xyz
                  1 Jun 2025, 22:15

                  And no custom roms, so it's decently useful for three years after the software support ends.

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                  buffalox@lemmy.world
                  wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 22:28 last edited by
                  #8

                  IDK, I don't see a problem using a phone with several year old Android version.
                  As long as the software you use works fine, it's not really an issue.

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