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  3. Hypothetically, if you had to pay for every item you've pirated, how much do you estimate that would've costed? (At original price, no fines or anything like that)

Hypothetically, if you had to pay for every item you've pirated, how much do you estimate that would've costed? (At original price, no fines or anything like that)

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    I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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    This is tough to answer, because a lot of pirated stuff is literally priceless, i.e., can't be bought at all.

    I'd be happy to pay for the recent Ace Combat 5 and 6 upscaled ports, but they were only available briefly with preorders for AC7 on consoles I don't have. They haven't been sold outside of that brief window several years ago. Even if you tracked down unopened copies from 2019 and bought them from third parties, the license codes they contained expired long ago.

    Fortunately, the Ace Combat community has put a lot work into making emulation work. The older games are playable, just not in a way you can pay money for.

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    • T [email protected]

      I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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      Unclear. Cause I don't tell

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      • T [email protected]

        I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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        Pay what? A physical copy? A digital license for streaming on a platform? A digital rental? A month of streaming service that includes it? Taking free access and public libraries (like public broadcasting libraries), temporary or time-limited into account? There's way too much variance to make any reasonable assessment on this.

        To get an idea of price variance, even without monthly services, which make individual consumption cheaper still, let's look at the value of digital products on Steam.

        Comparing my Steam account value calculated by SteamDB, the "lowest value" is 23% of the "value today". Taking into account that prices reduce significantly over time, you could put it much lower.

        How do you expect people to calculate "if you had to pay for every item"?

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        • T [email protected]

          I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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          There are games like Divinity Original Sin 2 that were so good I bought them after I finished them. So.. hard to tell.

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            There are games like Divinity Original Sin 2 that were so good I bought them after I finished them. So.. hard to tell.

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            Same here. I like to fall out for so much, I bought it after I had around 6000 hours in it.

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            • T [email protected]

              I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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              Depends. Do we count in-app purchases of apps I've modded or obtained pre-modded? Do we count the cost of films as one-off rentals/purchases, or do we count them as subscriptions?

              If we consider games as buying one-off licences for them that I kept in perpetuity, it would be in the few hundreds, probably about £400.

              If we include streaming, as a subscription service that I've used for the last decade roughly, then 10×12×£10 (assuming a tenner a month), we're looking at £1,200 saved for streaming.

              However, at least 20-30 films have been downloaded by me personally, so assuming a cost of about a fiver per film (idk how much films go for these days), we're looking at another ~£700.

              But also, we have to include ad-free YouTube as YT Premium. And even if we're to assume that YT Premium is anywhere close to the service I provide myself with, i.e downloading things I actually keep as digital files forever, it would still cost a lot. About 5 years of YT Premium would be (according to ChatGPT because I didn't want to research price increases), just over £800.

              But I've also watched both Netflix and Disney+ exclusives, namely Squid Game and The Mandalorian, so I guess streaming would've been much more expensive?

              Also, we have about a year of Spotify, which ChatGPT (easier to give more accurate estimates) claims is just over £140.

              Adding to that, apparently the cost of Netflix over the same period is just over £1,500, so that changes the total.

              So far, £3500, not counting in-app purchases in modded games. If we count that (which is ridiculous cuz I would never spend that much money on games, even if I was a liquid trillionaire (meaning having £1T cash)), we'd probably be looking at something in the hundreds of thousands if not millions.

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              • T [email protected]

                I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                As a compulsive datahoarders, millions, more ?
                It really depends if you include only stuff I actively enjoyed, or just each single instance of a copy I made, every torrent I've seeded.

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                • T [email protected]

                  Outdated image, these days we just remote into the FBI office, no FBI jacket needed.

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                  What is the point of being in the FBI if you're not going to wear the jacket?

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                  • T [email protected]

                    I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                    Somewhere in the ballpark of 7 million

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                    • T [email protected]

                      I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                      Nice try, FBI

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                      • T [email protected]

                        I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                        Does this include media I grabbed but literally never opened or looked at?

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                        • F [email protected]

                          This is tough to answer, because a lot of pirated stuff is literally priceless, i.e., can't be bought at all.

                          I'd be happy to pay for the recent Ace Combat 5 and 6 upscaled ports, but they were only available briefly with preorders for AC7 on consoles I don't have. They haven't been sold outside of that brief window several years ago. Even if you tracked down unopened copies from 2019 and bought them from third parties, the license codes they contained expired long ago.

                          Fortunately, the Ace Combat community has put a lot work into making emulation work. The older games are playable, just not in a way you can pay money for.

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                          This right here is what really grinds my gears. When companies own an IP, refuse to do anything on it, and then engage in litigation when someone makes a fan-based project against that IP, or someone redistributes their IP that they're no longer selling.

                          Either ride the horse or leave the stable.

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                          • T [email protected]

                            I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                            Infinite money. Capital wants infinite money for their imaginary property in perpetuity. Otherwise they'll get their state to put you in a cage.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                              Straight up piracy - probably only like $3k, if we're including backups of a personal physical media collection well over 20k.

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                              • T [email protected]

                                I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                                nice try Interpol!

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                                  A lot. Though it's hard to put a price on some things because they're software for discontinued products ( old game consoles, Amiga software, etcetera ) and aren't sold as they were, even if some of them are still sold for other platforms.

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                                    If I can't own it, I'm not buying it.

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                                    • T [email protected]

                                      I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                                      Enough to make me hate capitalism and inflation rates twice as much!

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                                        None I think. I paid for all my streaming services that had these movies and shows and then have sourced everything else through originals or sources that were rentable.

                                        This is that whole issue with defining ownership with digital media. Movies were called the greatest financial invention of America because they only had to make a product once and could sell it forever.
                                        With digital media and technology increases we now have a much easier time owning our own copies.

                                        This is likely literally what NFTs hoped to fix to make set revenue of of each digital file and also why they failed because they are so easy to copy anyways.

                                        So, none, or an infinite amount, depending on if you ask me or a business major.

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          I think the total cost for me would've probably been like $5000 (USD) at least. Like at least 100 movies. 150 TV shows, 50 games.

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                                          Hi FBI. I will just say 5000 seems crazy low though, especially if you're assuming a movie is $20-$30 and a game is like $10-$80. Dunno how you'd calculate tv shows but dvd/bluray seasons/box sets can get real expensive fast.

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