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Video games spending by young Americans is dropping sharply, report suggests

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    The single player is pretty good in that. It's definitely worth trying out.

    Being in the giant mech doesn't feel any different than not being in it though. That's my only complaint.

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    I remember at the time titanfall came out, the mechs moving like a human was a selling point. I do agree though it is odd to experience when its not a novelty.

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    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]
      • overpriced games
      • fully-priced games with microtransactions and day 1 DLCs.
      • overpriced hardware
      • games released broken, fixed later
      • Invasive DRM
      • Always-online requirements
      • annoying ads/microtransactions
      • invasive telemetry
      • third party launchers
      • third party accounts
      • Publishers intentionally misleading reviewers
      • False/misleading marketing from GPU OEMs

      What else am I missing?

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      Not fixed later, fixed maybe.

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        Can’t wait till the indie wave wakes up the realization that there is a goldmine of 90s games that were incredible. Star control 2 for one could probably be mistaken for a new indie hit nowadays.

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        • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachtsO [email protected]

          I love the constant onslaught of articles that are like “people aren’t spending money anymore!!!” Open your damn eyes. We all got smart and refuse to pay $80 (which is now the new forced norm for “AAA” garbage) and are replaying oldies and indies. Hell, I revamped my 3DS and have dumped a ton of games onto it. I can even play some of them online with people again via Pretendo.

          Like all of the reasons are so obvious why people aren’t dumping money into this industry anymore. Capitalists fucked it all up and put profit over fun. We’re not all dipshits that fall for the constant micro transactions and grifts.

          I legit don’t give a single shit about any of the new “AAA” games coming out. Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now.

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          Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now.

          If they're still functional, thankfully there's the Stop Killing Games movement.

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            Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now.

            If they're still functional, thankfully there's the Stop Killing Games movement.

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            I love the movement that has gotten. I’m cheering for it.

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              People are dumping money still, revenue isn’t shrinking

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              Yeah, I think the decline is a drop in a bucket considering. I know plenty of people still buying the Switch 2 etc. on launch day.

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                The hobby is getting more expensive while income left over after cost of living is going down. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

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                  Can’t wait till the indie wave wakes up the realization that there is a goldmine of 90s games that were incredible. Star control 2 for one could probably be mistaken for a new indie hit nowadays.

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                  I've been playing X-Wing. The mad lads who built XWVM have essentially modernized the game and got it working on and with modern hardware, while strictly preserving its feel. It's amazing.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    Yep, I know a lot of people who would balk at buying games but have no qualms dropping more than 100$ per month on gacha games.

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                    We desperately need to ban all forms of real money gambling in games, or at least prevent kids from accessing it.

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                      Or even better, play an old game that you still haven't played. I can get titanfall 2 for the price of a coffee and play it for the first time if I'm craving for a good AAA fps.

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                      Oh shiiiit, do that and come back and talk to us when you get to the time travel level.

                      Are we just in the phase of the medium where technology isn't the defining quality. It would be slightly weird to try to stay at the forefront of, say, novels without any regard for reading classics. Why shouldn't games be the same?

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                        That and broad, massive economic collapse in basically every other sector, at least in the US.

                        Can't play vidya gaem if hev no food starve.

                        https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html

                        Oops.

                        Labor market (# of actual jobs) is now actually net contracting, shrinking.

                        Expected: +100k jobs

                        Reality: -33k jobs

                        Firings / Layoffs > Hiring.

                        Also the population grows, so uh, it actually has to be something like +200k to +250k to remain steady in terms of working age people vs jobs.

                        Sure, there are lots of 'job openings', but they're all fake ghost job bullshit that never actually hire anyone.

                        And they don't pay enough to bother doing them, and they have insane requirements that make no sense.

                        Great Depression 2.0 Gaming!

                        (The housing market is also collapsing if any readers haven't been paying attention.

                        My semi-educated guess is about a 55% drop by 24 months from now, compared to roughly '23-'24 highs.

                        Hope your boomer parents didn't buy in the last 5 years rofl!)

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                        BLS jobs report was a beat, +140k jobs and unemployment down a shade. I agree with you on the themes but it doesn't help to cherry pick data.

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                          because of our kleptogeriocracy

                          Because of our what?

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                          Old people be stealing

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                            I love the constant onslaught of articles that are like “people aren’t spending money anymore!!!” Open your damn eyes. We all got smart and refuse to pay $80 (which is now the new forced norm for “AAA” garbage) and are replaying oldies and indies. Hell, I revamped my 3DS and have dumped a ton of games onto it. I can even play some of them online with people again via Pretendo.

                            Like all of the reasons are so obvious why people aren’t dumping money into this industry anymore. Capitalists fucked it all up and put profit over fun. We’re not all dipshits that fall for the constant micro transactions and grifts.

                            I legit don’t give a single shit about any of the new “AAA” games coming out. Give me a call when they’re in the bargain bin years from now.

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                            Exactly this. The new game cycle these days is:

                            • Game is announced with shiny video showing all sorts of cool stuff.
                            • Release date is announced.
                            • Game is delayed.
                            • Reviewers/early access people get it, turns out it has none of the cool stuff form the announcement video.
                            • Game is delayed again.
                            • Game finally comes out, with 3 different tiers that are like $80, $100 and $120 CAD depending on if you want the version of the game that's 30%, 40% or 50% complete.
                            • Game doesn't work.
                            • After about two years and 10 DLC packs you have about 80% of the functional game, the other 20% being stuff they were supposed to add but just never bothered, what are you gonna do about it? By this point you no longer care about the game anyway.
                            • Sequel is announced with shiny video showing all sorts of cool stuff, devs promise they've fixed all the broken stuff this time for real.
                            • Company gets bought by EA or Epic, all devs are replaced.
                            • Game is delayed.

                            Like genuinely who wants to bother with that nonsense anymore TBH.

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                              BLS jobs report was a beat, +140k jobs and unemployment down a shade. I agree with you on the themes but it doesn't help to cherry pick data.

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                              The BLS jobs estimate report is utterly garbage data.

                              Go look back over the last year or two.

                              Look at how many times, and how many jobs they revised down from the report 1 or 2 months prior.

                              All the idiots that watch Jim Cramer for financial advice are the same idiots that never bother to follow up on the BLS revisions.

                              Also, the BLS jobs estimate is an estimate that goes through a whole bunch of layers of dependency on other statistics like estimated populations growth.

                              Meanwhile the ADP is much more directly based on actual payrolls, from actual money going out to actual employees.

                              You should maybe learn how to actually compare the methodologies behind various sources of data before you accuse someone of cherry picking.

                              ...

                              Also the unemployment rates that are widely reported on don't count people who've been unemployed so long that they fall out of the labor force.

                              In our modern economy, if you fall off the treadmill, you stay unemployed for that long, you'll likely never get hired in that field again, or at least not without having to start out at an entry level or junior position, because of how absurd companies are with job requirements, how every job opening has 1000 applicants in 72 hrs, how something like 2/3rds of those job openings are fake and will never hire anyone.

                              https://www.forbes.com/sites/cherylrobinson/2025/04/02/why-no-one-is-hiring-you-and-its-not-your-resume/

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                                Maybe they can ask their AI to inspect the size of everyone's nose? Maybe that's the trick to get us to buy more AI chips in our games and TVs and phones and cars and in our fruit probably. There's gotta be AI in our food somewhere.

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                                  Also competition, and I'm not actually talking about indie games, although that's helping. Competition with older games. Why in the world would someone pay $80 for a mediocre new game when they could replay a classic hit that they haven't played in few years? When was the last time you played the witcher 3, or the mass effect trilogy? Would you rather replay one of those, or pay $80 for the new assassin's creed?

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                                  I'm current stuck in a long term cycle of mainly Project Zomboid, Factorio, Valheim, Oxygen Not Included, The Lone Dark and Rimworld, were when I'm fed up of playing the last of them, it's been long enough since I played the first one that it's once interesting to play it.

                                  Even when I manage to be fed up with playing all of them at any one point, I still have other progression games with complex emergent gameplay (often but not always games which have algorithmically generated game areas) like Kenshi. 7 Days to Die or OpenTTD that pull me in and if that fails, I can always pick up one of the old open world roleplay jewels such as Skyrim and play that.

                                  I've barelly tried anything else in the last couple of years and of those only Oxygen Not Include was the only one with any lasting power and I picked that one years ago.

                                  It's not even because I can't afford it (though out of principl I refuse to pay more than €20 for a game) - whenever I try an AAA game nowadays (always games that came out years ago) it's almost invariably an inferior experience that either feels too constrained or doesn't have enough gameplay variety and complexity to be fun for long.

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                                    You wouldnt happen to be on linux would you?

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                                    Yes, I am using Arch btw 😜🤣
                                    Sorry but I couldn't resist the opportunity 😁

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                                      I'm not young or American, but I can tell gaming has been changing. I can't even remember what was the last "AAA" game I bought, because it must have been a couple of years ago.

                                      Most games I buy are 40€ connoisseur titles or 20€ indie games. I don't hear about any "must-play" AAA titles through the grapewine these days. I do hear about interesting indie stuff all the time, though. Most of the 60€+ games I hear about are kind of niche stuff.

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                                        If everyone thought like you, we'd all be dead.

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                                        The Cult of Consumption

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                                          I'm not young, but I know mine has gone down. I'm not playing less games, though. 🏴‍☠️

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