Baldur's Gate 3 dev calls Randy Pitchford's $80 Borderlands 4 comments "gross" because it implies the FPS is more important than "making it day to day"
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This post did not contain any content.wrote on 22 May 2025, 12:58 last edited by
Yeah, inflation is a thing. But so is increasing volumes in sales with low cost distribution of the product.
After a game is made now, the only cost is distribution now, and games sell in larger volumes than ever before, making more money than ever before. A game like BL4? Even if they spent $300,000,000 making the game they only need to sell 6,000,000 copies to recoup costs at $70. BL3 has sold 18,000,000 copies. A huge profit, even if most of those sales were on sale prices. BL3 was made and advertised with a 140 million dollar budget.
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Exactly. They can charge $200 if they want to but it doesn't mean people are going to buy at that price. The price point needs to be where people are okay paying for it and I don't see it happening at $80. Okay, I lied a bit, I see it happening for some games but not for BL4.
wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:17 last edited byHow do you know for certain without seeing gameplay or trying it? No one knows what's in the game except the devs.
What if it's OG borderlands and there's no battle pass or microtransactions.
This is more of a don't pre order type thing.
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This post did not contain any content.wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:22 last edited by
Greasy Randy isn't exactly known for being not gross prior to the comment either
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I’ll buy this when it’s $20 with all expansions in two years.
It’s not because of Randy Bobandy here, him making an inane, alienating comment is his gimmick at this point and should be expected. It’s t because I found that if I play a game on release I end up playing the worst version of the game. And then I never play expansions because I rarely replay games and I’m not about to play an expansion to a game I haven’t played in a year without replaying the base game again.
So I buy games a year late, at half the price. I love gaming.
wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:24 last edited byLove doing this with modern atlus games. Cant wait to buy the "royal golden reloaded remaster collection" edition for $20 from a used/third party retailer.
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How do you know for certain without seeing gameplay or trying it? No one knows what's in the game except the devs.
What if it's OG borderlands and there's no battle pass or microtransactions.
This is more of a don't pre order type thing.
wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:24 last edited by whotookkarl@lemmy.worldWhat if it's OG borderlands and there's no battle pass or microtransactions.
Ha, good joke
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This post did not contain any content.wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:42 last edited by
Every Corporate asshole: "Give me all your money, you don't need to eat, sleep, or live. If you don't, you're not cool like me!"
So sick of dropping asshole companies because of idiots constantly pushing this garbage. Oh well.
"But I was trained in management school to think of people as nothing more than numbers! It's not my fault!" - corpo piece of shit.
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Look, you can charge whatever you want.
"Is your game worth $80 to average gamers dealing with (gestures broadly at state of world economy)?"
That is the question every studio executive needs to ask themselves.
Given the recent trends in AAA-funded projects, for the most part, that answer is "Oh, hell no."
wrote on 22 May 2025, 15:33 last edited byIf Ubisoft can convince themselves that Skull and Bones was the first "quadruple A game" and worth $70, then I doubt most studio execs can pull their heads out their ass for long enough to properly ask themselves that. Studios have completely lost touch with what people actually want and are willing to pay.
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Yeah, inflation is a thing. But so is increasing volumes in sales with low cost distribution of the product.
After a game is made now, the only cost is distribution now, and games sell in larger volumes than ever before, making more money than ever before. A game like BL4? Even if they spent $300,000,000 making the game they only need to sell 6,000,000 copies to recoup costs at $70. BL3 has sold 18,000,000 copies. A huge profit, even if most of those sales were on sale prices. BL3 was made and advertised with a 140 million dollar budget.
wrote on 22 May 2025, 18:51 last edited byNot to mention, all of the dlc that'll inevitably be released, following every other borderlands game pattern. Wonder what they'll try to set the prices of those at
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If Ubisoft can convince themselves that Skull and Bones was the first "quadruple A game" and worth $70, then I doubt most studio execs can pull their heads out their ass for long enough to properly ask themselves that. Studios have completely lost touch with what people actually want and are willing to pay.
wrote on 22 May 2025, 20:11 last edited byI just think it's funny. Big game corpos failing is just hilarious. I'm glad Larian is doing well tho.
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This post did not contain any content.wrote on 22 May 2025, 20:36 last edited by
Real fans would find a way to wait for the game to go on sale for $2.
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This post did not contain any content.wrote on 22 May 2025, 20:40 last edited by
I haven't bought full price games in ages. Games are always released half finished now. Wait six months to a year until it goes on sale and they actually finish the game.
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I thought BL3 tanked so I'm pretty surprised they think they can charge this month. Did it review poorly and still sell well??
wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:30 last edited byIt and it's DLC sold just fine because BL3 is miles above BL2 in gameplay (though yes it's story and voice acting are painful, 2 hasn't aged as well as many of us might remember it did in that regard, either)
Tbh I expect the same thing for this one: better gameplay, worse writing
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It and it's DLC sold just fine because BL3 is miles above BL2 in gameplay (though yes it's story and voice acting are painful, 2 hasn't aged as well as many of us might remember it did in that regard, either)
Tbh I expect the same thing for this one: better gameplay, worse writing
wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:39 last edited byHaving seen the tonal shift in the gameplay preview I'd actually expect better writing, or at least more bearable writing. Gameplay looked more fine tuned but mostly the same as 3.
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I haven't bought full price games in ages. Games are always released half finished now. Wait six months to a year until it goes on sale and they actually finish the game.
wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:39 last edited by alphaomega@lemmy.worldI honestly can't remember the last time I paid full price for a game. Between free amazon prime games, epic games, gog, and steam demos/freebies: I hardly have time to invest in new games.
I used to buy Madden/NBA2k every year up until 2008 or so, now I grab one every five years at $10. Includes all the bugs from the previous version.
I have 1000s of games now and don't have any time to play them. BG3 is the only game I'm considering spending $40 for.
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This post did not contain any content.wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:29 last edited by
I bought borderlands 2 the other week and it's been a blast on my SteamDeck. Unfortunately it seems it's one of those games that loves to connect online all the time, like it'll kick me out of single player if it detects wifi and make me reload into... singleplayer, but online. with 0 differences.
I probably would've been better off pirating it tbh.
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Bitchford wishes he could be part of something that was even near a single iota of the same quality of BG3.
wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:36 last edited byhe did though? borderlands 1, 2, pre sequel, and 3
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I haven't bought full price games in ages. Games are always released half finished now. Wait six months to a year until it goes on sale and they actually finish the game.
wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:50 last edited byThe only game I paid full price in recent years was BG3, because it’s worth it, and the people who worked in the game were worth it.
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he did though? borderlands 1, 2, pre sequel, and 3
wrote on 23 May 2025, 01:09 last edited byI'm a Borderlands fan, but it absolutely isn't even in the same universe of quality as BG3. Borderlands is dumb, pretty shitty and lost quality with each game. It's mindless fun, like B movie popcorn flicks.
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I'm a Borderlands fan, but it absolutely isn't even in the same universe of quality as BG3. Borderlands is dumb, pretty shitty and lost quality with each game. It's mindless fun, like B movie popcorn flicks.
wrote on 23 May 2025, 01:14 last edited bymindless fun is the best quality a video game can ever have
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The only game I paid full price in recent years was BG3, because it’s worth it, and the people who worked in the game were worth it.
wrote on 23 May 2025, 03:47 last edited byyea, but BG3 didn't release in a complete state. With that said, Larian has delivered on their promise and that's really a good example of how a AA/AAA title can do early access in a good and healthy way.