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    This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.

    Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.

    I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.

    They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).

    I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
    I'm so sick of this shit!

    I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
    So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.

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    people out here really refusing to compress, compile, and optimize their work

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    • D [email protected]

      This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.

      Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.

      I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.

      They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).

      I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
      I'm so sick of this shit!

      I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
      So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.

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      #18

      Lower the resolution in the games settings. 1366 isn't any different than 1920 in practice.
      No one needs 4k graphics. Most games don't even play at that resolution without upscaling anyways.

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      • forester@pawb.socialF [email protected]

        Except for devs, completely abandoned realism and complex logic mid-2010s and have since been chasing nothing but unparalleled graphic quality at the cost of simulation, depth and realism.

        Like I literally do not give a flying fuck If my puddle can accurately picture in picture recreate the skyline and cityscape with acurate ray tracing. I'm not going to be staring at puddles to notice. I do care when I lob an explosive that should be able to level the building into the building and the building is still standing.

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        You can't even shoot out light bulbs anymore.

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        • D [email protected]

          Hell yeah, I love that game.

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          I love the fallout games. I have a Mac, so it’s been impossible to run them on it until I discovered Porting Kit that has the premade wine wrappers and walks you through game installation. Fallout 3 and fallout new Vegas run pretty well on my 2016 MacBook Pro.

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          • D [email protected]

            This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.

            Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.

            I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.

            They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).

            I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
            I'm so sick of this shit!

            I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
            So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.

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            Once you detach your mind from the big publishers and start looking at small indie devs, there are truly astonishing games out there that could run on potatoes.

            My good old RX 480 will last me for a while longer.

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            • T [email protected]

              You can't even shoot out light bulbs anymore.

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              Come find me in arma reforger!

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              • mp3@lemmy.caM [email protected]

                Once you detach your mind from the big publishers and start looking at small indie devs, there are truly astonishing games out there that could run on potatoes.

                My good old RX 480 will last me for a while longer.

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                Indie devs are the only ones making new games anyway. Everything else is just this year's bells and whistles slapped onto the same game they've sold to the same audience annually.

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                • mp3@lemmy.caM [email protected]

                  Once you detach your mind from the big publishers and start looking at small indie devs, there are truly astonishing games out there that could run on potatoes.

                  My good old RX 480 will last me for a while longer.

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                  That's another part of gaming I'm going to start to look into, indie games. Thank you for the reminder.

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                    You can't even shoot out light bulbs anymore.

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                    This is the real reason why we haven't seen a new Splinter Cell. Can't shoot out the lights, the technology is just lost to time.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.

                      Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.

                      I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.

                      They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).

                      I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
                      I'm so sick of this shit!

                      I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
                      So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.

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                      just replay Deus Ex forever lol

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                      • D [email protected]

                        This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.

                        Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.

                        I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.

                        They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).

                        I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
                        I'm so sick of this shit!

                        I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
                        So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.

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                        If you find yourself playing old games more and more, [email protected] or [email protected] might just be the communities you need to join if you haven’t already.

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                        • D [email protected]

                          That's all I can afford. And there was no way I'd pass those monitors. Everything is good when emulating, though. This post was more of a venting/ranting post.

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                          Sounds like you don’t understand how demanding it is for a graphics card to run at 4K. Like trying booting up the same game 4 times at 1080p. You expect your graphics card to be able to handle that?

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                          • veeesix@lemmy.caV [email protected]

                            If you find yourself playing old games more and more, [email protected] or [email protected] might just be the communities you need to join if you haven’t already.

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                            [email protected] is another one worth looking at. It's for people who don't play games at launch, but wait a few years instead 🙂

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                            • D [email protected]

                              This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.

                              Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.

                              I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.

                              They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).

                              I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
                              I'm so sick of this shit!

                              I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
                              So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.

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                              The reason has nothing to so with higher quality. They just do cost cutting of not having to create lighting and pass the cost on to the customer by having us raytrace and thus requires more horse power that GPU makers failed to deliver.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.

                                Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.

                                I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.

                                They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).

                                I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
                                I'm so sick of this shit!

                                I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
                                So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.

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                                #31

                                Obligatory reminder that Titanfall 2 is pretty great, runs great (its built on a modified Portal 2 era Source branch) looks great... and with Northstar, people figured out how to mod the client to work with custom servers and mods... and it all works on linux as well, literally has its own custom Proton branch.

                                But uh yeah, the new AAA graphics paradigm is:

                                Everything is a dynamic light, game devs don't optimize shit anymore because they're all being slave driven by corporate...

                                ...because everything is built for stupid high graphical realism fidelity, few AAAs make any novel or engaging, fully fleshed actual gameplay...

                                But hey, nobody has to bake light and shadow maps anymore!

                                Assuming, of course, your card can support real time raytracing, which it can't, so we had to invent intelligent frame upscaling to replace well optimized AA methods, but that also isn't enough, so we had to invent (fake) frame gen.

                                Oh and all the cards that can do this are all sitting around double MSRP, because board partners can do whatever the fuck they want, and retailers don't even bother to attempt to stop scalpers.

                                ...

                                The 9060 XT launches this week, and its supposed to MSRP at $350, for the 16 gig model.

                                My guess is we will get maybe 12 hours of prices between $350 and $450 (for the fancier partner models)... and then $500 to $550 will be the new 'baseline' price for whatever is left by next week.

                                If you're planning on trying to get a 9060 XT, good fucking luck, you're almost certainly gonna need it.

                                ...

                                The GPU market is largely doing the same thing thats happened with cars, housing: everything is a luxury model, none to few viable economy options even get newly mfg'd, then the entire consumer base goes into debt to keep up their lifestyle, then all the debt bubbles pop and consumer spending ability craters... and... maybe then, 6 months to a year after that, the GPU mfg'rs could possibly start releasing actual economy models? Maybe?

                                ...

                                Either way, a whole lot of AAA studios are either going to keep monetizing harder and harder... or realize that as we enter this 2nd Great Depression... that shit ain't gonna work for a mass consumer base, people just won't have the money.

                                Or I guess Klarna and Afterpay come built in to GTA 6 Online shark card purchases.

                                Why not?

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                                  This is the real reason why we haven't seen a new Splinter Cell. Can't shoot out the lights, the technology is just lost to time.

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                                  Im really starting to think that's true

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    I've edited my post for more context. It is not possible in my case. I use all AMD and this game forces DLSS. Setting the game to low at 1080p barely gives me 20 fps and even that is unstable. Going lower res than that makes the game look like absolute dogshit. So I just gave up. I now play everything at 4k 60fps on rpcs3 no problem.

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                                    https://www.google.com/search?q=Indiana+Jones+great+circle+disable+dlss

                                    Seems to be a known, common issue. I see a bunch of pages that could help you out, since it sounds like it's just this game that you're having trouble with.

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                                      I mean you probably are just going to have to run the games at 1080p instead of 4k until you can afford a better gpu

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                                      Some games run like shit even on 1080p. Lmao. But I get ya

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                                        people out here really refusing to compress, compile, and optimize their work

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                                        That's my whole point. Why are we fsulting faulting ourselves and defending big studios who got greedy and lazy? Games used to look good and play good on shit hardware because developers had no choice. Now, you get downvoted and berated if you say that. It's not a hardware issue, it's a game industry issue. They are lazy. They don't give a shit. They release shit half baked and broken then "fix" it later.

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          Obligatory reminder that Titanfall 2 is pretty great, runs great (its built on a modified Portal 2 era Source branch) looks great... and with Northstar, people figured out how to mod the client to work with custom servers and mods... and it all works on linux as well, literally has its own custom Proton branch.

                                          But uh yeah, the new AAA graphics paradigm is:

                                          Everything is a dynamic light, game devs don't optimize shit anymore because they're all being slave driven by corporate...

                                          ...because everything is built for stupid high graphical realism fidelity, few AAAs make any novel or engaging, fully fleshed actual gameplay...

                                          But hey, nobody has to bake light and shadow maps anymore!

                                          Assuming, of course, your card can support real time raytracing, which it can't, so we had to invent intelligent frame upscaling to replace well optimized AA methods, but that also isn't enough, so we had to invent (fake) frame gen.

                                          Oh and all the cards that can do this are all sitting around double MSRP, because board partners can do whatever the fuck they want, and retailers don't even bother to attempt to stop scalpers.

                                          ...

                                          The 9060 XT launches this week, and its supposed to MSRP at $350, for the 16 gig model.

                                          My guess is we will get maybe 12 hours of prices between $350 and $450 (for the fancier partner models)... and then $500 to $550 will be the new 'baseline' price for whatever is left by next week.

                                          If you're planning on trying to get a 9060 XT, good fucking luck, you're almost certainly gonna need it.

                                          ...

                                          The GPU market is largely doing the same thing thats happened with cars, housing: everything is a luxury model, none to few viable economy options even get newly mfg'd, then the entire consumer base goes into debt to keep up their lifestyle, then all the debt bubbles pop and consumer spending ability craters... and... maybe then, 6 months to a year after that, the GPU mfg'rs could possibly start releasing actual economy models? Maybe?

                                          ...

                                          Either way, a whole lot of AAA studios are either going to keep monetizing harder and harder... or realize that as we enter this 2nd Great Depression... that shit ain't gonna work for a mass consumer base, people just won't have the money.

                                          Or I guess Klarna and Afterpay come built in to GTA 6 Online shark card purchases.

                                          Why not?

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                                          Damn, you fucking spoke my heart. This is the whole point of my post. I won't repeat what you said, but thank you for crafting this comment. Nailed it.

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