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Docker is not available in RHEL10

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  • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    As I can see, Docker is not available in RHEL10 (at least for now).
    Yes, I know, podman is an option, I already converted all of my services, but for my nextcloud setup.. I find it impossible to make it full functional in podman...
    Edit: Okay I succeeded, thank you for your messages, I know how to manually install rpms, the main point was to discuss that Docker is not available in RHEL.

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    hasn't been available since like 8. right?

    IBM bought redhat, negotiations with docker bottomed out because docker wouldn't appease IBM execs, and IBM used their competitor podman. IBM yanked docker out of all packages almost overnight.

    yet another reason why I left redhat. any company that uses their power for the sake of using it makes running business on their platform hard, but that's kind of IBM's whole schtick.

    edit: why the downvotes? this is literally what happened. docker said they couldn't delivered rootless when IBM wanted it because they had other priorities. IBM said fuck you we're dropping support for podman. docker said ok, and now we have a podman still masquerading like a drop in replacement.

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      Reading the Docs, it seems like PodMan is the replacement for docker. You could try containerd/nerdctl, but podman is likely the best way for you. RHEL10 docs even say it supports the older docker config options

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      podman is not a drop-in for docker.

      they lie and anyone saying otherwise is lying too.

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        What the fuck is your problem? 😄

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        poor impulse control.

        that or they use podman over docker.

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          Just use podman, easy migration from docker.

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          podman is not a replacement to docker.

          I fucking hate how the podman docs say that(because ofc they do).

          it's like saying c++ is a replacement to c. can they work, sure. are they the same? you try importing libs into c the same way you do in c++ and find out. yeah, they're both c under the covers but they are not the same.

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          • Z [email protected]

            You were just the last rude commenter I saw before commenting myself. He is asking for help, and instead of continuing to help or moving on, people are rude or are attacking him. I feel that isn't ok.

            We can agree to disagree about who's out of line.

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            Go argue with someone else. Blocked.

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            • I [email protected]

              I guess what they're saying is, even though it's "not supported" officially, you can still try and there's good chances it'll work anyway. If you need or prefer to stick to a supported configuration, it seems your options are either to switch to podman and figure out nextcloud, or switch away from RHEL.

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              It won't work since there's no RHEL10 repo. You can however use CentOS (Stream) 10 repo, I use it that way and it works!

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                Just use podman, easy migration from docker.

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                It's definitely not an easy migration in my experience, because they run rootless and they cannot auto-start without making a system service for every stack, there is a lot that needs to change in a compose stack, especially with file permissions for shared mounts.

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                • Z [email protected]

                  Oooor people could stop being rude when he clearly doesn't know if you can install an rpm from 9 on 10. All I have seen are people saying "do this", and when he says he can't, people complain instead of elaborating. If you dont want to help, dont. There is no need for everyone to gang up on him..

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                  He didn't say he can't, he said "but the site says!"

                  Yeah I know what the site says, I linked to it, I can read (usually). You know what I do when I want to do something? I try.

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                    podman is not a drop-in for docker.

                    they lie and anyone saying otherwise is lying too.

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                    It depends on what you are trying to do. Podman has a different design but it has pretty solid compatibility with docker. It also supports OCI containers so from the applications perspective it looks the same.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      What the fuck is your problem? 😄

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                      They are just another person

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                      • sv1sjp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                        Well, as I am running my personal server for years, I wanted to test/understand more enterprise solutions except Debian/Ubuntu and especially solutions with SELinux.
                        In the end if I face major issues I will setup Nextcloud to a VM. Thank you for your response

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                        SElinux will run on any system with Linux

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                        • mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

                          It's definitely not an easy migration in my experience, because they run rootless and they cannot auto-start without making a system service for every stack, there is a lot that needs to change in a compose stack, especially with file permissions for shared mounts.

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                          Agreed. Setting up an NFS share is a mess with Podman

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