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  • father_redbeard@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

    Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try them out. One thing that I hate is critical for me is integration with Android auto. It's the last Google service I can't seem to quit. Might have to give up and just roll with Bluetooth instead.

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    symfonium has been mentioned in this post before specifically for android auto. i had the same hang up with apple car play. i didn't use most of the plexamp fancy features. i just wanted it to play music and be easy to use when driving. manet finally came along for ios. though i'm still hoping one of the open source apps adds the functionality later.

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      Unrelated but why a full VM for Linux stuff, lxc is much more efficient

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      I can backup an entire VM snapshot very quickly and then restore it in a matter of minutes. Everything from the system files, database, Jellyfin version and configs, etc. All easily backed up and restored in an easy to manage bundle.

      A container is not as easy to manage in the same way.

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        after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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        I just wanna get rid of Plex so bad but jellyfin isn't going to work for my grandma....

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        • C [email protected]

          I can backup an entire VM snapshot very quickly and then restore it in a matter of minutes. Everything from the system files, database, Jellyfin version and configs, etc. All easily backed up and restored in an easy to manage bundle.

          A container is not as easy to manage in the same way.

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          you can use commit, save/load, import/export for the same thing as VM snapshots

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            I’ve heard jellyfin has a lot of security issues

            The biggest known stuff I saw on their GitHub is that a number of the exposed service URLs under the hood don't require auth. So, it's open-source with known requirements, you can tell easily from the outside that it's running, and you can cause it to activate a LOT of packages without logging in. That's a zero-day in any package that can be passed a payload away from disaster.

            AS far as TVOS, I'm kinda surprised swiftfin doesn't service you.

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            swiftfin is mostly there but doesn’t support media segments, which is a deal breaker for me

            really unfortunate since jellyfin media segments is a much better implementation of the concept than plex

            i’m watching the swiftfin issue for when it gets added and i’ll be all over compiling and testing it

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              https://github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin is available for tvOS. works great for me with one bug. since i have homepods connected to one of my apple tv's as it's speakers. i had to change the setting to use the native video player instead of vlc to avoid and audio delay bug. that cost me the auto play next episode function. i though not auto playing the next episode would annoy me, but it's turned out to not be a issue at all. but infuse doesn't include that bug if you want both homepod tv speakers and auto play next episode with jellyfin. as for security, since jellyfin is more modifiable it has a lot more room for misconfiguration for sure. plex had plenty of it's own security issues, we just only heard about them when some security blogger discovered it.

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              misconfiguration here i think is a dangerous way to phrase it… it implies that there is a secure way to run jellyfin on its own. jellyfin, by itself, should never be exposed to the www. it is, no matter the configuration, insecure. to run jellyfin on the www you must put a VPN or other reverse proxy with auth over the top of it

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              • surp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                I just wanna get rid of Plex so bad but jellyfin isn't going to work for my grandma....

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                #119

                Why? It's been much easier for me

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                • candyman337@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                  Idk man there's a music player

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                  So, no.

                  Got it. 🙂

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                    So, no.

                    Got it. 🙂

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                    I don't know what it has, I've never used it, I just know it exists, I assumed you meant music player

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                      Why? It's been much easier for me

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                      Grandma? Pls send money.

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                        after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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                        Congrats. I'm super particular about covers and naming and the conversion of file names that Plex needed to jellyfin is intensive.

                        I finally got got JF up and running but still working on adding edition names to each item that is special. I really wish there was an editions field so it wasn't a manual title update. At least I can lock the field afterwards.

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                        • surp@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          I just wanna get rid of Plex so bad but jellyfin isn't going to work for my grandma....

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                          I understand. I have converted fully to JF which required people to get onn players, and tunnel into my network and it was a lot of work on my end too.

                          Do what works for you and them.

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                          • pupbiru@aussie.zoneP [email protected]

                            you can use commit, save/load, import/export for the same thing as VM snapshots

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                            It's not the same. You then need to manage volumes separately from images, or if you're mounting a host folder for the Jellyfin files then you have to manage those separately via the host.

                            Container images are supposed to be stateless. So then if you're only banking up the volumes, then you need to somehow track which Jellyfin version it's tied to, in case you run into any issues.

                            A VM is literally all of that but in a much more complete package.

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                              after almost 15yrs my plex server is no more. jellyfin behind nginx with authentik is running very nicely.

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                              I am still using Kodi. It is feeling a bit long in the tooth in current year, but I can’t complain. I tried Plex because chromecasting is a feature I would love. Sadly it didn’t support the ISOs of my 1:1 rips. Maybe it does now (I stopped waiting for them years ago). As for Jellyfin, they seem to have an anti-ISO stance. One of the devs seemingly (or someone claiming to be a contributor) said I should convert all my media to a more modern format and make my own menus because it would be fun. Oh well, Kodi it is.

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                              • father_redbeard@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

                                I want to leave too, but I really like PlexAmp for my music streaming. And no, Finamp doesn't work nearly as well or look as nice.

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                                PlexAmp is so good. Nothing else comes close.

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                                  I can backup an entire VM snapshot very quickly and then restore it in a matter of minutes. Everything from the system files, database, Jellyfin version and configs, etc. All easily backed up and restored in an easy to manage bundle.

                                  A container is not as easy to manage in the same way.

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                                  How not?

                                  If a lxc container is in a btrfs subvolume or in a zfs dataset (those are created easily like a directory, it's not a partition), you can do a full 1:1 copy in less than one second via a snapshot, keeping all the system files, database, version and configs

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                                    laughs in immich

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                                    Updating immich brings excitement into my life 🙂

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                                      It's not the same. You then need to manage volumes separately from images, or if you're mounting a host folder for the Jellyfin files then you have to manage those separately via the host.

                                      Container images are supposed to be stateless. So then if you're only banking up the volumes, then you need to somehow track which Jellyfin version it's tied to, in case you run into any issues.

                                      A VM is literally all of that but in a much more complete package.

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                                      i’d consider that all a good thing, but i can also see how it’s more work

                                      they’re supposed to be stateless because it’s easier to manage, upgrade, etc… if you don’t want that, you can just use load/save/commit (or import/export: can’t remember off the top of my head which is which) and ignore volumes: it amounts to the same thing… there’s also buildpack rebase so you can swap out the base container and keep your top level changes for quick version upgrades that are super simple to roll back

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                                        I am still using Kodi. It is feeling a bit long in the tooth in current year, but I can’t complain. I tried Plex because chromecasting is a feature I would love. Sadly it didn’t support the ISOs of my 1:1 rips. Maybe it does now (I stopped waiting for them years ago). As for Jellyfin, they seem to have an anti-ISO stance. One of the devs seemingly (or someone claiming to be a contributor) said I should convert all my media to a more modern format and make my own menus because it would be fun. Oh well, Kodi it is.

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                                        i've never heard of anyone that keeps dvd menus around. like, i get it for archival purposes but i would never want to actually navigate a menu when i want to watch something. in my mind it's like sitting through the commercials on a rented vhs. i would probably store a converted copy as well, in a format that would let me specify from the application what track and subtitle i want so i can set a default.

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                                          I can backup an entire VM snapshot very quickly and then restore it in a matter of minutes. Everything from the system files, database, Jellyfin version and configs, etc. All easily backed up and restored in an easy to manage bundle.

                                          A container is not as easy to manage in the same way.

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                                          How often do you do this?

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