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Young men are 'playing videogames all day' instead of getting jobs because they can mooch off of free healthcare, claims congressman

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    Civilised countries like the UK and other European countries. Technically it's not free because it's paid for by taxation, but it's free at the point of use: if I go and see a doctor, I don't get billed, but I do pay 9% National Insurance tax.

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    Pretty sure this article is about the USA

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      Shit, they're on to me.

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        Anybody who has ever been unfortunate enough to have to apply for any of these healthcare or food stipend programs would know that it's not as easy as the government makes it seem. In fact, the amount of bureaucracy, means testing, and highly restrictive income limitations means that most people don't qualify period and people who do qualify have to spend an inordinate amount of time waiting to hear back from the government to know if they have been accepted or not, all the while hoping and praying they don't get sick and can manage their money long enough to continue feeding themselves.

        Case in point, my fiance is out of work right now and actively seeking work. She applied for both MediCAL and SNAP and was denied for MediCAL because she had earned too much already that year to qualify and the SNAP benefits totaled out to $20/month in food stamps, based on historical income, which is insufficient even for the most frugal of individuals to make work. This is for someone currently earning $0/month and being almost entirely supported by me.

        After a certain point, it becomes a massive drain on your time and resources that could be spent looking for a job, so you stop bothering with the system altogether because who wants to spend hours doing paperwork and submitting claims just to get enough spare change to buy a bulk bag of rice to feed yourself a struggle meal?

        I don't want to hear shit about "handouts" from anybody. My fiance paid her taxes faithfully for years without ever having to rely on the program, so where are her benefits? She has undoubtedly paid more into the system than she will ever extract.

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          I got fucked up in a video game and can't handle the defeat so I blame them for attention!

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            Its a lot more rewarding than choking on a small carrot.

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              Rich people always think they pay for everyone. Wrong.

              We are in the same society. A society with no hope is not a stable society.

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                Its a lot more rewarding than choking on a small carrot.

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                Should have chewed first.

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                  But where's the free healthcare?

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                    I'm disabled and can't afford a working computer to play video games, you rich motherfucker.

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                      We have free health care? Coulda fooled me.

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                      • J [email protected]

                        With the caveat that we can accommodate everyone so long as sufficient people put in their fair share of effort. In an ideal world that will mean very short working hours and/or nicely early retirement/late entry into the work force.

                        Certainly the usual talking heads are spoiled rich guys that have never known labor and have not done their fair share, but it is a difficult thing to balance to make sure we do take care of each other but make sure enough people are engaged to successfully do that

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                        People will use labor to make food if they only have the means. No one sane would rather starve, and even the bourgeoise can be taught the value of their labor once it saves a life, perhaps their own.

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                          People vote for this guy.

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                            He seems to know a lot about "young boys."

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                              Enhanced interrogation?

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                              I'd be happy to oblige them. Good call.

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                                Says the asshole mooching off the gold standard free healthcare given to congressmen.

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                                And what was his "merit" again (since that's how they like to frame it)? Oh right, fooling people into voting for him. Just PR and courting big shots for campaign money.

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                                  I don't accept the premise that working a job to make someone else rich is axiomatically good.

                                  Many jobs make the world worse. I'd rather someone sit at home and play Tetris than build murder-drones, or work on some sort of AI powered stalking-ad company.

                                  Many of the jobs are just bullshit. Another "AI" company? Another product manager with no real decision making power? A few billion dollars poured into "the metaverse"? Waste of time and resources.

                                  That aside, most jobs make the owners rich while labor gets a few crumbs. You work all day making widgets. The boss pays you $10. They sell your widgets for $1000. That's a bum deal. But there's a thousand desperate people waiting to take your spot, plus union busters eager to betray labor and beat you up. Pay people the real value of their labor, and treat them with respect, and you'd likely get more people working.

                                  Johnson is a heretical, hypocritical, piece of shit. No one should take him seriously. His church should -- wait, he's southern baptist? The "we're going to split off because we want slavery" sect? Not surprising. Those assholes suck.

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                                  This. The whole framing needs to be pushed back against.

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                                    Healthcare is just a way to coerce the working class to produce value for the wealthy. That is the real reason why there is no universal healthcare in America.

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                                    • J [email protected]

                                      He seems to know a lot about "young boys."

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                                      He talked about monitoring his sons porn viewing history I think.

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                                        People vote for this guy.

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                                        This guy unfortunately and unironically exists and likely has more power than anybody on the fediverse.

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                                          They'll just keep turning the screws tighter if you let them.

                                          Don't listen to their lies.

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