Advice on moving my Spotify library to Navidrome
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In my experience, most of these tools usually only search the equivalent song on YouTube ans download it from there. Which can cause some trouble when the algorithm finds some cover etc instead of the original thing.
Plus the lossless issue. For me personally, it was easier to just get the better version outright instead of upgrading afterwards.Zotify pulls from Spotify and uses your Spotify account to get your actual playlists and download the songs directly
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Don't be a leech and download several thousands of songs from other without sharing.
If you don't share back, at least only get hard to aquire content.get hard to aquire content
Okay, I'm hard... now what?
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Soggfy was just the first thing I tried that worked without crawling for shitty yt downloads of the same things and so I stuck with it. If the audio quality is the same then I really don't see what difference it makes in the grand scheme of things.
I will try out zotify so thanks for the name but it isn't like it will be any quicker as I'll still do everything in "real time" as I want to maintain my account and not get banned as it is a family plan and I don't want to negatively impact the other people that use the same plan.
Also I know people love to use command line but soggfy is just a modified Spotify client so I can just open it up and start what I need in a couple of clicks
I just created a dummy account that is part of the family plan.
If it get's banned: So what. I'll create anotherRegarding Zotify (the last time I used it was quite some time ago), authenticating was the only difficult task. After that it was just plugging in the playlist link, pressing enter and waiting.
And I am not one that breathes the CLI.
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In my experience, most of these tools usually only search the equivalent song on YouTube ans download it from there. Which can cause some trouble when the algorithm finds some cover etc instead of the original thing.
Plus the lossless issue. For me personally, it was easier to just get the better version outright instead of upgrading afterwards.Before commenting on a tool and saying it's bad, at least do your homework
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I ditched most streaming services well over a year ago now, but Spotify has clung on because I have a playlist of around 2000 songs. I've set up Navidrome but now need to transfer all my music in the highest quality possible as efficiently as possible.
I tried lidarr some time ago, but it seemed to be based more around artists than individual songs and my indexer failed to find most of my library.
I've seen a couple of apps that will look at a playlist and then try to yt-dlp the song from YouTube but I'm worried about having a lower quality or different version. I've wondered if automating an "analog hole" type approach where I just pipe the audio of each song to a file and leave it playing overnight for a couple of weeks might actually be the best approach but that does seem a bit insane at this scale.
Hereās my ālow complexity, medium effort, full legal, full qualityā solution:
Start actually buying your music. I go down the list in descending order of convenience:
- Bandcamp
- Qobuz
- Apple iTunes (not Apple Music)
- Physical CDs (for ripping)
Tag all your music with Picard (or wrtag if you only buy full releases, thereās a GH issue for other cases) or beets. Picard is the simplest and most feature complete right now and has a nice GUI. Then upload your tagged music to your Navidrome.
Then use a tool like
- https://github.com/WilliamNT/tunesynctool
- https://github.com/blastbeng/spotisub (check my fork for a better functioning version)
These will match songs from your spotify playlists to songs in your subsonic-compatible server (which Navidrome is) and recreate your spotify playlists using the music it finds in your Navidrome. These syncing tooks can have misses and you may need to do some log-digging or issue-opening to find out why, but Iāve gotten them working fairly decent and plan on doing some work to improve them some day.
Itās a nice, fully legal, fully self-hosted stack. Not NEARLY as convenient as having them auto-ripped for you from youtube, but like you said, there are quality and metadata concerns when ripping from youtube.
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Ytdlp works with Spotify too iirc, and there are Spotify downloaders out there too.
Every spotify downloader Iāve seen just matches to youtube and uses yt-dlp in the backend. I may have missed a new one though.
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Before commenting on a tool and saying it's bad, at least do your homework
I commented that I have experience with similar tools and that is why I chose others. I never said anything about this particular one.
Why would I need to look into this particular tool right now? I don't need it and it has no real relevance to what I was saying either.
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If artists would actually get paid fairly by Spotify that would be a good model.
Until about 100 years ago music artists would get paid for playing live only. Then music reproduction became possible, and lo and behold, companies started making a profit off of popular musicians by reproducing their music and taking a share, just because they could afford the technology.
Then, reproduction came into the hands of regular people, and you could reproduce music at home, bypassing the companies that profit off of the musicians. So copyright laws were drafted to protect mostly the companies making a profit off of musicians.
Now we're going back to the situation of 100 years ago: musicians need to play live to get paid. But reproduction does still make them famous without them having to travel. So that's a plus.
And you can argue Spotify has to.pay for infrastructure and app development, but that technology is in the hands of individuals as well nowadays. So what do they actually offer, on top of the work of creative people making music? Not much. Yet they become more expensive every year. And the only people getting richer are their shareholders.
I think you may have shifted the argument a bit.
Weāre not āback to where we were 100 years agoā. Bandcamp exists and pays artists for song purchases. Itās not perfect, and the selection of Bandcamp and the few other services like it are sometimes limited, but there ARE ways to buy digital music and have a non-negligible amount of the money go directly to the artist.
I think youāre trying to make an argument for just pirating digital format music. I would say, donāt just throw up your hands and go straight there by default, try to buy the music first, and then if you canāt or really canāt afford it, then by all means download the music in other ways.
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Here's the not really legal way I have heard of
- Get a Deezer trail and cancle the sub right after. Migrate your relevant playlists to Deezer.
- Use Deemix to download the playlist any anything you are interested in in the quality you desire. Make sure the DL settings are also what you want.
You can also use other tools to download from Qobuz. - (Optional) Use Musicbrainz to identify and tag your files with unique IDs. You can also use custom scripts to give the artist field seperate entries for every artist. Makes it more convenient then separation by a ; or something. You can use ChatGPT for the script.
- (Still optional) Import the music to a Lidarr instance for better management and automatic naming. The IDs make this step easier. This allows you too track new or missing releases from artists.
- Import to Navidrome.
The optional steps can be more involved and need a lot of manual work. Also, the migration to Deezer will have issues, it's not perfect.
If you want lyrics, I recommend using LRCGET or importing to Jellyfin and using it's lyric plugin to automatically download them that way. The app SongSync on android also allows downloading lyrics automatically and manually from a variety is sources, including Apple and Spotify. Not on FDroid or Play, use GitHub or IzzyOnDroid.
As for a music player on android, I'm currents trying Symfonium. Not FOSS and actually paid, but so far it's the best I have seen.
EDIT: Minor clarification.
I can recommend https://beets.io/ to auto Tag your library. It's work but works better than Picard or other MusicBrainz tagger IMHO.
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Every spotify downloader Iāve seen just matches to youtube and uses yt-dlp in the backend. I may have missed a new one though.
I've used Zotify. It downloads from Spotify directly in .ogg format. It fails a bit here and there, so requires you to watch that everything actually downloaded, but it beats any random YouTube quality video other programs would find otherwise.
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I ditched most streaming services well over a year ago now, but Spotify has clung on because I have a playlist of around 2000 songs. I've set up Navidrome but now need to transfer all my music in the highest quality possible as efficiently as possible.
I tried lidarr some time ago, but it seemed to be based more around artists than individual songs and my indexer failed to find most of my library.
I've seen a couple of apps that will look at a playlist and then try to yt-dlp the song from YouTube but I'm worried about having a lower quality or different version. I've wondered if automating an "analog hole" type approach where I just pipe the audio of each song to a file and leave it playing overnight for a couple of weeks might actually be the best approach but that does seem a bit insane at this scale.
Spotizerr + navidrome + tempo
Spotizerr (fast development, sometimes breaks) will let you download you spotofy playlist. 320kbps too if you have premium. Also, deezer premium accounts are free for 1 month and let you download flac.
Navidrome replace Spotify as streaming server.
Tempo is a good android client. O also love symfonium but its not free (very worth paying for, though).