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  3. What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

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    Checkout Jump Ship? It's some weird borderlands, Star citizen, (insert other generic shooter) type game. Pretty neat, was recommended to me by a shooter fanatic friend of mine. I trust his shooting game opinion

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1757300/Jump_Ship/

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    oh cool, I can see that it's similar Borderlands by the screenshots, and I can see that it's like Star Citizen because it's not actually released yet and they're taking money for early access.

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      I checked the Steam depots. It seems the game files haven’t been updated since 2022. All that seems to have changed is some license agreement in February. Seems to be a thing across take two games, and not specific to borderlands 2.

      Basically nothing has changed in real terms for this game. Maybe borderlands 4 might have draconian DRM, who knows.

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      • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

        But it doesn't have the mandatory kernel level disclaimer either.

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        I did some more reading on this, and it apparently isn't due to DRM, its about an update to ToS that occurred in April. The update expands data collection for advertising and forced-arbitration. Arguably that's worse than kernel-level DRM. DRM can be ripped, legal shenanigans can't.

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          oh cool, I can see that it's similar Borderlands by the screenshots, and I can see that it's like Star Citizen because it's not actually released yet and they're taking money for early access.

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          Hah exactly 😄

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            I did some more reading on this, and it apparently isn't due to DRM, its about an update to ToS that occurred in April. The update expands data collection for advertising and forced-arbitration. Arguably that's worse than kernel-level DRM. DRM can be ripped, legal shenanigans can't.

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            Sure, but it also seems like it's data that you offer up via a 2K account, which I don't have. I have a user name tied to my Steam ID, and that's about it.

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              I checked the Steam depots. It seems the game files haven’t been updated since 2022. All that seems to have changed is some license agreement in February. Seems to be a thing across take two games, and not specific to borderlands 2.

              Basically nothing has changed in real terms for this game. Maybe borderlands 4 might have draconian DRM, who knows.

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              They can drop updates anytime after they made sure to have you accept the spyware.

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                I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

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                  Is the EULA also applicable to the Linux version, assuming that Aspyr did actually port the game to Linux and not just use Wine or something?

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                    I’ll just stick to playing my console copy

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                      Pirates are winning over my empathy.

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                      They've been my best friend for years

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                        I haven't read the new TOS but if this review is correct it looks like a GDPR nightmare for them. Good luck to them explaining why they need to collect all that personal data.

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                        That might be US only, where the companies have freedom to get all the customer's data and do with it as they will.

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                        • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                          Sure, but it also seems like it's data that you offer up via a 2K account, which I don't have. I have a user name tied to my Steam ID, and that's about it.

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                          You think that will stop this from spreading like cancer?

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                            I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

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                            Apart from the politics, the Borderlands games themselves are hardly utter shit for the most part.

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                              They've been my best friend for years

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                              Piracy never gave me up, never let me down

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                              • red@sopuli.xyzR [email protected]

                                Apart from the politics, the Borderlands games themselves are hardly utter shit for the most part.

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                                The writing is garbage but,... it's a game for edgy teenagers. It would.

                                The gameplay for me is Diablo with guns. It would suck for anyone not into that. If anyone isn't into that, don't buy Borderlands games.

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                                  I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

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                                  Except lawbreakers but he tainted it by supporting it and made ppl against it

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                                    I haven't read the new TOS but if this review is correct it looks like a GDPR nightmare for them. Good luck to them explaining why they need to collect all that personal data.

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                                    Most people don't care about privacy.

                                    Most people in the western civilized world are on Facebook, so...

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                                      Except lawbreakers but he tainted it by supporting it and made ppl against it

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                                      Bro thank you for mentioning Lawbreakers. Such a fun game that was cut short.

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                                          The writing is garbage but,... it's a game for edgy teenagers. It would.

                                          The gameplay for me is Diablo with guns. It would suck for anyone not into that. If anyone isn't into that, don't buy Borderlands games.

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                                          Got to argue, I'm a 39 year old gamer, started with PCs back in 90s.

                                          The games are casual fun, they work great as co-op shooters. Story is what it is, but the games themselves are lighthearted and just pure entertaining fun.

                                          Not masterpieces. Just good.

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