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What games are just objective masterpieces?

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    Super Metroid is still the first that comes to mind. Amazing experience from start to finish.

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      Super Metroid

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      • saltsong@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

        Portal 1 was flawless. Portal 2 had a crucial flaw.

        Specifically, it was not Portal 1. Everything else was perfect.

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        Are you saying that Portal 2 is not perfect due is a sequel?

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          Are you saying that Portal 2 is not perfect due is a sequel?

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          Not a sequel. Just because it's not Portal 1. The fact that it's second is not the problem. The problem is that the first one was flawless.

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            Red Alert 2

            Heroes of Might and Magic 3

            Super Mario Brothers 3

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              I think Outer Wilds is the most unique and fantastic way to tell a story I've ever experienced. Truly open in a way I've not seen before or since.

              With the banger of a soundtrack too, I just can't bring myself to rate other games higher than it; even if I enjoy them more, Outer Wilds is probably the best game I've ever played.

              Slay the Spire probably makes the list as it's inspired countless tweaks on its incredibly balanced deck building experience

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                There is no "objective" when talking about subjective terms.

                My personal, SUBJECTIVE favorites are Mass Effect, Titanfall 2, Subnautica, Stardew Valley, Ori and the Blind Forest, Dave the Diver, Balatro, and Portal 1 and 2

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                  I didn’t know Chris Plante is on Lemmy.

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                  For a moment I thought you were talking about the Newsmax host and I was very offended and confused, but it looks like there is another, lesser known Chris Plante in gaming journalism.

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                    S tier

                    • Lufia
                    • Dragon Warrior 3
                    • Final Fantasy 3 & 7
                    • Sonic Adventure
                    • The Guardian Legend
                    • Ecco the Dolphin
                    • Silent Hill
                    • Mario Kart
                    • Dark Cloud 2
                    • Chronotrigger
                    • Zelda: A link to the past
                    • Submachine (flash)

                    A tier

                    • Oddworld, Abe’s Odyssey
                    • Resident Evil: codename Veronica
                    • Banjo Kazooie
                    • Mario RPG
                    • Donkey Kong Country
                    • Earthworm Jim
                    • Battletoads
                    • Wizards and Warriors 2
                    • Megaman 2
                    • Populous
                    • One Chance (flash)
                    • Daymare Town (flash)
                    • Abadox - hardest game I ever beat

                    B tier

                    • The Lion King
                    • Overlord
                    • Oregon Trail
                    • Dinopark Tycoon
                    • Snowboard Kids
                    • South Park
                    • Kid Icarus
                    • Sweet Home
                    • Monster Party
                    • Dr Mario
                    • Abobo’s Big Adventure (flash)
                    • Alice is Dead Ep 1 (flash)
                    • Starfox
                    • Shadowgate
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                    • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                      Holy shit somehow no one has mentioned:

                      Nier Automata

                      It counts as a masterpiece because of how well it blends game design, gameplay and story. I have played very few games as thoughtful, or that weaved the gameplay together into the story it was telling in such a meaningful way. I never thought once in my life that I would think philosophically about bullet hell but somehow Nier Automata has something profound to say and even manages to say it using bullet hell as a gameplay mechanic.

                      On top of all this, it also has a lot to say about classical philosophers, their works, and honestly deeply subverts things they had to say. It asks tough questions about their thoughts and ideas, once again, through gameplay. Numerous characters are named for classical philosophers: Pascal, Jean-Paul, Simone, Engels, Immanuel... (Yoko Taro obviously has feelings about how Jean-Paul Sartre treated Simone de Beauvoir.)

                      Further, Yoko Taro is doing something that a lot of game developers fail to manage to do: He is embracing gaming as a storytelling medium and eschewing the traditional three-act arc from film. Because gaming is not film. As Marshall McLuhan posited, "the medium is the message" and unlike other developers Taro's writing is aimed at the medium he is working in instead of leaning on the ropes and tropes of other mediums. (Referring back to above, tying the gameplay into the story, focusing on the medium)

                      It's basically impossible to not break down into tears at the ending.

                      Don't write it off because of the scantily clad anime women. Stay for the depth of the human condition. It is truly a masterwork in multiple respects.

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                      It's basically impossible to not break down into tears at the ending.

                      The god damn ending is a gameplay mechanic to tell a not yet finished story. Damn you Yoko Taro

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                        Portal/Portal 2

                        Deus Ex (the original)

                        Minecraft

                        Stardew Valley

                        Terraria

                        Mirror's Edge

                        Chrono Trigger

                        Cyberpunk 2077

                        Hades

                        Subnautica

                        A Short Hike

                        Donut County

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                        I'm shocked to see Donut County mentioned. But you're right, it's a perfect pleasant game similar to the perfection of the first Portal. In fact, it's my son's favorite video game, by far.

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                        • seathru@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                          I think the word you are looking for is pedant.

                          Better vocabulary will help get your point across better. Without also sounding like an edgy atheist teen.

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                          ::: spoiler spoiler
                          askldjfals;jflsad;
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                            I'm going to take this as "games that I never see anyone question their quality." (I don't even like all these games myself)

                            • Sonic 3 & Knuckles

                            • Kirby Planet Robobot

                            • Doom 2016

                            • Street Fighter III: Third Strike

                            • Pac-Man

                            • Balatro

                            • Steins;Gate

                            • The House in Fata Morgana

                            • Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

                            • Gran Turismo 4

                            • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

                            • Mega Man X

                            • Mega Man X4

                            • Super Mario Bros. 3

                            • Hollow Knight

                            • Bloodborne

                            • Elden Ring

                            • Balder's Gate 3

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                              ::: spoiler spoiler
                              askldjfals;jflsad;
                              :::

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                              It's low-grade trolling, chill bro. They're not serious.

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                                S tier

                                • Lufia
                                • Dragon Warrior 3
                                • Final Fantasy 3 & 7
                                • Sonic Adventure
                                • The Guardian Legend
                                • Ecco the Dolphin
                                • Silent Hill
                                • Mario Kart
                                • Dark Cloud 2
                                • Chronotrigger
                                • Zelda: A link to the past
                                • Submachine (flash)

                                A tier

                                • Oddworld, Abe’s Odyssey
                                • Resident Evil: codename Veronica
                                • Banjo Kazooie
                                • Mario RPG
                                • Donkey Kong Country
                                • Earthworm Jim
                                • Battletoads
                                • Wizards and Warriors 2
                                • Megaman 2
                                • Populous
                                • One Chance (flash)
                                • Daymare Town (flash)
                                • Abadox - hardest game I ever beat

                                B tier

                                • The Lion King
                                • Overlord
                                • Oregon Trail
                                • Dinopark Tycoon
                                • Snowboard Kids
                                • South Park
                                • Kid Icarus
                                • Sweet Home
                                • Monster Party
                                • Dr Mario
                                • Abobo’s Big Adventure (flash)
                                • Alice is Dead Ep 1 (flash)
                                • Starfox
                                • Shadowgate
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                                Unironically Banjo-Kazooie though

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                                • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                  Holy shit somehow no one has mentioned:

                                  Nier Automata

                                  It counts as a masterpiece because of how well it blends game design, gameplay and story. I have played very few games as thoughtful, or that weaved the gameplay together into the story it was telling in such a meaningful way. I never thought once in my life that I would think philosophically about bullet hell but somehow Nier Automata has something profound to say and even manages to say it using bullet hell as a gameplay mechanic.

                                  On top of all this, it also has a lot to say about classical philosophers, their works, and honestly deeply subverts things they had to say. It asks tough questions about their thoughts and ideas, once again, through gameplay. Numerous characters are named for classical philosophers: Pascal, Jean-Paul, Simone, Engels, Immanuel... (Yoko Taro obviously has feelings about how Jean-Paul Sartre treated Simone de Beauvoir.)

                                  Further, Yoko Taro is doing something that a lot of game developers fail to manage to do: He is embracing gaming as a storytelling medium and eschewing the traditional three-act arc from film. Because gaming is not film. As Marshall McLuhan posited, "the medium is the message" and unlike other developers Taro's writing is aimed at the medium he is working in instead of leaning on the ropes and tropes of other mediums. (Referring back to above, tying the gameplay into the story, focusing on the medium)

                                  It's basically impossible to not break down into tears at the ending.

                                  Don't write it off because of the scantily clad anime women. Stay for the depth of the human condition. It is truly a masterwork in multiple respects.

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                                  I appreciate that you justified your submission, unlike many answers here.

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                                    Truly, the replayability is staggering.

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                                      It's low-grade trolling, chill bro. They're not serious.

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                                      ::: spoiler spoiler
                                      askldjfals;jflsad;
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                                        I'm going to take this as "games that I never see anyone question their quality." (I don't even like all these games myself)

                                        • Sonic 3 & Knuckles

                                        • Kirby Planet Robobot

                                        • Doom 2016

                                        • Street Fighter III: Third Strike

                                        • Pac-Man

                                        • Balatro

                                        • Steins;Gate

                                        • The House in Fata Morgana

                                        • Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

                                        • Gran Turismo 4

                                        • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

                                        • Mega Man X

                                        • Mega Man X4

                                        • Super Mario Bros. 3

                                        • Hollow Knight

                                        • Bloodborne

                                        • Elden Ring

                                        • Balder's Gate 3

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                                        I’d take SMW over SMB3, but I can’t really fault anything else in this list! 😅

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                                        • saltsong@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

                                          Not a sequel. Just because it's not Portal 1. The fact that it's second is not the problem. The problem is that the first one was flawless.

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                                          So the gaming equivalent of ‘chasing the dragon’? That tracks!

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