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    I'm still dipping my toes into self hosting and trying to figure out what services I would want to be always accessible from my devices vs those that could be awakened by LAN, and which services should be installed at the OS level vs as containers.

    As of now, I just have an OrangePi 5 Plus running Home Assistant Supervised under Debian and nothing else. I'm hoping to expand the OPi a bit and also build out another PC (hardware unknown) as a NAS media server and NextCloud machine.

    Before I start doing anything I can't undo, I'm wondering if I' on the right track with my proposed setup in the image, or if there's anything else I should consider?

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      I'm still dipping my toes into self hosting and trying to figure out what services I would want to be always accessible from my devices vs those that could be awakened by LAN, and which services should be installed at the OS level vs as containers.

      As of now, I just have an OrangePi 5 Plus running Home Assistant Supervised under Debian and nothing else. I'm hoping to expand the OPi a bit and also build out another PC (hardware unknown) as a NAS media server and NextCloud machine.

      Before I start doing anything I can't undo, I'm wondering if I' on the right track with my proposed setup in the image, or if there's anything else I should consider?

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      1. Tailscale is not a reverse proxy
      2. There's nothing you can't "undo". I think you're overthinking this.
      3. If you don't need the extra storage, you don't need a NAS.
      4. You can run most of the services you mention on that OPi board right now as long as you have the system resources.
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        I'm still dipping my toes into self hosting and trying to figure out what services I would want to be always accessible from my devices vs those that could be awakened by LAN, and which services should be installed at the OS level vs as containers.

        As of now, I just have an OrangePi 5 Plus running Home Assistant Supervised under Debian and nothing else. I'm hoping to expand the OPi a bit and also build out another PC (hardware unknown) as a NAS media server and NextCloud machine.

        Before I start doing anything I can't undo, I'm wondering if I' on the right track with my proposed setup in the image, or if there's anything else I should consider?

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        Tailscale is a mesh VPN. And is this made in Obsidian?

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          I'm still dipping my toes into self hosting and trying to figure out what services I would want to be always accessible from my devices vs those that could be awakened by LAN, and which services should be installed at the OS level vs as containers.

          As of now, I just have an OrangePi 5 Plus running Home Assistant Supervised under Debian and nothing else. I'm hoping to expand the OPi a bit and also build out another PC (hardware unknown) as a NAS media server and NextCloud machine.

          Before I start doing anything I can't undo, I'm wondering if I' on the right track with my proposed setup in the image, or if there's anything else I should consider?

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          Wow i was on a very similar setup last year software stack wise.
          I have a small pc i5gen 10 (eats way less than one might think due to the laptop hardware) proxmox on it running 2 debian vms one for home assistant the other for anything else pretty much that doesn’t require huge horsepower but through the weeks/months crashes and bugs i decided to move my media server to a separate box with native jellyfin install to make sure i have full advantage of the hardware acceleration. That machine is nixos but that’s a whole other story 😂.

          I think constant iteration is the key/fun with self hosting. I can’t tell you a single thing on my not so long but very eventful journey that I regret. Maybe try to find what is actually “mission critical data” that you once setup you say i need this to be online and reliable etc so you can play more freely on a separate system be that a vm or anything. Oh and document everything you do will come handy 10000% i guess that’s the only thing I wish I could done better is finding a tool I like to document with. For me it’s like this: I start documenting then something annoying happens with the note taking app or it’s just bloated and I’ll unintentionally abandon the whole thing.

          Anyway that’s me waffling 😂
          Have fun and I’m happy to share all the little exp I have just give me a shout ✌🏽

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            1. Tailscale is not a reverse proxy
            2. There's nothing you can't "undo". I think you're overthinking this.
            3. If you don't need the extra storage, you don't need a NAS.
            4. You can run most of the services you mention on that OPi board right now as long as you have the system resources.
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            2)There's nothing you can't "undo". I think you're overthinking this.

            Adding to this: Deploying via Docker (or podman or k8s or...) and/or installing every host via Ansible makes this even easier.

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              Tailscale is a mesh VPN. And is this made in Obsidian?

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              maybe drawio

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                Tailscale is a mesh VPN. And is this made in Obsidian?

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                Used the whiteboard tool in Clickup. It's a lot like FigJam.

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                  1. Tailscale is not a reverse proxy
                  2. There's nothing you can't "undo". I think you're overthinking this.
                  3. If you don't need the extra storage, you don't need a NAS.
                  4. You can run most of the services you mention on that OPi board right now as long as you have the system resources.
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                  Thanks for the feedback!

                  1. I may not have labeled that accurately, I just plan to use Tailscale to access these services from specific authorized devices.
                  2. I meant "before I do something that is a pain to correct". Like starting with the wrong OS or file system format.
                  3. My plan is to build a media server which will include 4k media, so I think my storage may need to grow over time... maybe TrueNAS is something I can add later if needed?
                  4. I guess the reason I was thinking of 2 separate machines is that I've heard using an OPi as a media server or NextCloud server will go really slow and potentially cause other issues. Plus I already have an old computer doing nothing right now, just needs new SSDs.
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                    Thanks for the feedback!

                    1. I may not have labeled that accurately, I just plan to use Tailscale to access these services from specific authorized devices.
                    2. I meant "before I do something that is a pain to correct". Like starting with the wrong OS or file system format.
                    3. My plan is to build a media server which will include 4k media, so I think my storage may need to grow over time... maybe TrueNAS is something I can add later if needed?
                    4. I guess the reason I was thinking of 2 separate machines is that I've heard using an OPi as a media server or NextCloud server will go really slow and potentially cause other issues. Plus I already have an old computer doing nothing right now, just needs new SSDs.
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                    Okay well:

                    1. understandable
                    2. stop worrying so much, it can always be fixed
                    3. like I said, if you need the actual space, then make that plan
                    4. you can host anything on anything. If it's not moving as fast as you want it, THEN think about switching to something else
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                      Okay well:

                      1. understandable
                      2. stop worrying so much, it can always be fixed
                      3. like I said, if you need the actual space, then make that plan
                      4. you can host anything on anything. If it's not moving as fast as you want it, THEN think about switching to something else
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                      1. I dont think theyre worried, they seem to value informed decisions
                      2. again, true, but a bit of foresight can save hassle
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                        I'm still dipping my toes into self hosting and trying to figure out what services I would want to be always accessible from my devices vs those that could be awakened by LAN, and which services should be installed at the OS level vs as containers.

                        As of now, I just have an OrangePi 5 Plus running Home Assistant Supervised under Debian and nothing else. I'm hoping to expand the OPi a bit and also build out another PC (hardware unknown) as a NAS media server and NextCloud machine.

                        Before I start doing anything I can't undo, I'm wondering if I' on the right track with my proposed setup in the image, or if there's anything else I should consider?

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                        I would recommend keeping NextCloud always-on - this way your devices will be able to take advantage of background syncing without needing to remember to WoL. This also makes it more useful for other guests, should you choose to share your instance.

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                          I would recommend keeping NextCloud always-on - this way your devices will be able to take advantage of background syncing without needing to remember to WoL. This also makes it more useful for other guests, should you choose to share your instance.

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                          Yeah, I was also starting to lean toward putting NextCloud on the OPi. There's just not much happening on my OPi and I was only hesitating from trying that because I didn't think the OPi could handle it, but it's worth trying.

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                            I'm still dipping my toes into self hosting and trying to figure out what services I would want to be always accessible from my devices vs those that could be awakened by LAN, and which services should be installed at the OS level vs as containers.

                            As of now, I just have an OrangePi 5 Plus running Home Assistant Supervised under Debian and nothing else. I'm hoping to expand the OPi a bit and also build out another PC (hardware unknown) as a NAS media server and NextCloud machine.

                            Before I start doing anything I can't undo, I'm wondering if I' on the right track with my proposed setup in the image, or if there's anything else I should consider?

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                            Does it really worth yo keep Media Box off and turning on only when needed? I think you're just unnecessarily complicating things

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